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Just Brought Home from Connersville, IN - 1952 American Kitchens Electric Sink
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Post# 416655   2/18/2010 at 21:27 (5,173 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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(With apologies for the verboseness of this introduction)

Today was perhaps the second most thrilling day for me since I started collecting Vintage Dishwashers just 20 months ago in July 2008! (The MOST thrilling day was April 29, 2009 when I traveled to Massachusetts and picked up both the brand new, never used, 1949 G.E. Electric Sink and the 1950 Sears Homart Electric.)

First, however, I would again like to acknowledge aw.org member Wes (elginkid) from Cincinnati. He found the Ebay listing for the “American Kitchen Sink Dishwasher Cabinets Connersville!
Cabinets by American Kitchen Company Connersville, IN”. The auction began on January 22 and ended on February 1, 2010. He created discussion thread #26662. Thanks also go to Pete (rollermatic) who emailed me directly to bring this Electric Sink to my attention. As I mentioned in #26662, Wes and I collaborated on this purchase and he graciously deferring this acquisition to me. I’m calling this a 1952 Electric Sink because of a 1952 magazine ad that I just found on ebay – showing virtually the same machine with red roto-rack.

A Midwest snowstorm on February 4th scrapped my plans to drive from Peoria over to Connersville on the 5th. Subsequent nasty and cold weather, plus other personal commitments and health issues have prevented me from making the trip until today. Departing from Peoria about 4:30am, I arrived in Connersville 4 hours 45 minutes later. I met the seller, Jacob, and we led me the short distance to a garage where the Sink and 3 other cabinets were stored. We transferred the set over to my pickup truck. Jacob had told me there was another gentleman, local historian for lack of a better description, who had some information to share with me regarding the American Kitchens company. Turns out he was a former American Kitchens employee - who has factory photographs, historic documents, brochures, and a whole array of other memorabilia that he managed to save from being trashed, some documents dating back to 1905 for the Central Manufacturing Company.

But most astonishing to me – he has a blue ink carbon copy of a “Proposal for Manufacturing of Electric Dishwasher – American Central Division –AVCO Manufacturing Corporation – submitted by F.F. Dugan January 1951” Dugan was an Engineer, likely employed originally by the Rex company, and hired by Sam Regenstrief. American Kitchens was already making Electric Sinks, and the fact that most dishwashers of the time were incorporated into to Sink cabinets, led American Kitchen dealers and distributors to begin exerting pressure urging the company to start including stand-alone dishwashers in their product line. This study would eventually lead to D&M building rebadged dishwashers for the other various appliance companies.

The point to all of this – is that I’ve asked the gentleman for a copy of this historic document in hopes of being able to pass its contents on to the club. And I hope he will make copies of some of the other documents that were in his archives as well.

Following are some photos of the Electric sink that I brought back. Jacob said that the dishwasher was in working order when they took the Electric Sink out. He said that the faucet was dripping, and that replacement parts were no longer available. One thing led to another, and they ended up doing a kitchen renovation. The inside of the dishwasher is in pristine condition, leading me to believe it has not been used much, if at all.

Enjoy.
Mike





Post# 416658 , Reply# 1   2/18/2010 at 21:31 (5,173 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Packed and ready to hit the road. There were three other cabinets and countertop.

Then at home six hours later.


Post# 416660 , Reply# 2   2/18/2010 at 21:34 (5,173 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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More photos showing the very bad condition of the sink bowl. I don't quite know what happened in there. The whole cabinet has been painted.

The dial shows a wash, two rinses and dry.


Post# 416662 , Reply# 3   2/18/2010 at 21:36 (5,173 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Inside (repeats of first two photos.)

Post# 416664 , Reply# 4   2/18/2010 at 21:37 (5,173 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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More inside; back; underneath.


Post# 416665 , Reply# 5   2/18/2010 at 21:38 (5,173 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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This is the ebay photo of the 1952 magazine ad.

Post# 416704 , Reply# 6   2/19/2010 at 04:22 (5,173 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Amazing

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It never ceases to amaze me when one of these rare beauties show up. I suppose there is alot to say and be thankful for the women that said they can do the dishes better by hand.

Congratulations. Eddie


Post# 416718 , Reply# 7   2/19/2010 at 06:33 (5,173 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
WOW!

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Geez Mike, you did it again!! What a great dishwasher!! I think you may now have one (if not THE) last of the original roto-tray dishwashers!!
Is this model a gravity drain?
It looks as if the sink got used WAY more than the dishwasher. You should be able to refinish it, though. They sell a special two-part enamel for sinks and bathtubs in paint stores and this should work.
For the faucet, like dishwasher pumps, you should be able to adapt current parts to it. Had to do some o-ring acrobatics to get the original GE Kitchen Center faucet to stop dripping, but it's possible...
Thank you so much for the photos!! So, can I come visit again this summer?? LOL


Post# 416719 , Reply# 8   2/19/2010 at 06:33 (5,173 days old) by a440 ()        

What a great find Mike!
The dishwasher looks hardly used.
Looks like it weighs a ton!
Thanks for the pictures and the history!
Brent


Post# 416742 , Reply# 9   2/19/2010 at 08:50 (5,173 days old) by westingman123 ()        
wowza

I know it's heresy, but I've never been a dishwasher guy. But this, now this! It is breath taking. I'll bet that sink will clean up beautifully, too. So, Mike, when's the next invite to Peoria? :-)

Post# 416750 , Reply# 10   2/19/2010 at 09:22 (5,173 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Those were great dishwashers as far as impeller types go. It would really spin that top rack! You could yank open the door mid-cycle and that top rack would be spinning so fast it would sling hot water half-way across the kitchen!
Kool find!


Post# 416781 , Reply# 11   2/19/2010 at 11:07 (5,173 days old) by circlew (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Hey Mike, very happy to see you were able to make it over to Connersville to pick up this set. Looks to be in great shape with the exception of the sink bowl; maybe some Bar Keepers Friend will help with that. The eye doctor's office I went to as a kid was in an old house, and it had the complete American Kitchens set, with double sink and that same dishwasher. I remember that unusual faucet on the sink. Do you think the cabinet handles are original or replacements? Seems like the ones at the Dr.'s office, and the ones in a friend's AK kitchen, were round chrome and plastic. As for repairing the faucet, Noel's Plumbing in Cincinnati (513-721-5286)claims they have parts for American Kitchens products. Their website is www.noelsplumbingsupply.com....

Post# 416792 , Reply# 12   2/19/2010 at 11:17 (5,173 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Mike that is a fantastic find !
Love the color coded dial and the interior of the machine never saw one ever.
I'm glad everything worked out .
Mike did you ever find out about the Briva dishwasher from Kitchenaid ?





Darren k.


Post# 416864 , Reply# 13   2/19/2010 at 14:52 (5,172 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
mike that is a beautiful

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dishwasher. in some ways it looks exactly like the d&m modern maid i have but in other ways it is very different.

the tub, especially the sump area is in much better shape than mine! your's looks brand new! and i notice your's has a definate sump area where as the one i have just has a slanted tub bottom. the motor on your's is different looking from the one i have also (see pic) and from what i can tell the drain pumps are not the same.

love the red racks on your machine! they really stand out!
glad to hear you have an extra impeller if you need it, i do too. larry in parma sold me one last year, he may have more left. i also got one from mark michaels last fall.

mine leaks around the door on occasion too, bet your's will not! your machine seems almost never used!

i'm curious as to which one of our's is the later model? i'm not sure when mine was built.

it couldn't have gone to a better home. you are the electric sink king!


Post# 416869 , Reply# 14   2/19/2010 at 15:02 (5,172 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
pic #1

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sloping bottom vs the "sump" on your's that i like better. i see your machine has no screen around the impeller also. i would guess your's is a bit newer? maybe i'm wrong here.

Post# 416870 , Reply# 15   2/19/2010 at 15:05 (5,172 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
well the site is acting

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up here, will not let me upload photos, have tried twice, page is jumping all over the place too. that's it for this try!

Post# 416875 , Reply# 16   2/19/2010 at 15:26 (5,172 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Mike - this thing is beautiful! Any chance on the sink cleaning up with some heavy artillery?

Ben


Post# 417624 , Reply# 17   2/22/2010 at 15:30 (5,169 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Sink Cleaning:

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My friend, you need Zud!

Zud is the "heavy artillery" Ben was speaking of; it's a powdered cleanser with a rust and metal stain remover chemical built into it. It's in many better grocery stores, hardware stores, and places like Menard's. It will remove both rust and green/blue copper stains.

It shouldn't be used for regular cleaning; it's pretty abrasive if you rub hard. What I'd do with your sink is to wet it, sprinkle on a goodly amount of Zud, rub gently, and wait, letting the chemical do as much of the work as possible. Rinse, assess, repeat if needed. Once you have the sink clean, you can use Bon Ami, which will actually polish the sink a bit over time. Bon Ami has a "melting" abrasive called feldspar in it, so it does not scratch, but it will smooth a rough sink a little bit if used regularly.

Anyway, you need Zud. It'll bring that thing up to as good a condition as is possible.


Post# 420592 , Reply# 18   3/4/2010 at 23:24 (5,159 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        
I think I've found the reason why this dishwasher looks

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Just a brief update with more to follow.

Because of my past experience with the G.E. and Homart Dishwasher Dole Brand Brass Water Valves, I decided to proactively go ahead and remove the water valve on this American Kitchens. I'm glad I did, because if I had just hooked up a water hose to it and started it up, I would have had water all over the floor.

As you can see in these photos, there is significant warping that has occurred to the plate that houses the water filter, and also all four sides of the flange from the solenoid shaft (red oval). Now whether this occurred just this winter when the machine was stored in the garage awaiting the ebay sale and pickup, or maybe it occurred many years ago - I'll never know.

What I do know is that there was significant rust, dirt, sediment, etc. in the water line, as evidenced by the galvanized water pipe and water filter. My guess is that this water filter got plugged up a long time ago. Dishwasher performance degraded to the point where they just stopped using it. And there it has sat all of these years. Who knows what the real story is.

I've tried straightening these warped components but so far have failed the water test for the valve itself. Therefore, it's going to get a generic GE Water Valve for now.

I'm planning a Water Test on Saturday. I'll post more and respond to questions and comments, posted above, at that time.

Mike


Post# 420721 , Reply# 19   3/5/2010 at 13:34 (5,159 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Dear crazy

I know you will have it up and running in "just out of the
crate" condition by this time tomorrow!!
It is my favorite of all your "labor" saving modern appliances!


Post# 420725 , Reply# 20   3/5/2010 at 13:44 (5,159 days old) by tlee618 ()        
Wow Mike

That is just fantastic!!! I have never seen one of these before. How fun too that you got to meet the guy that use to work for American Kitchens. That kind of information is so neat.

Post# 420729 , Reply# 21   3/5/2010 at 14:01 (5,159 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Very Cool find Mike

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Just what was an Electric Sink?

I bet that dishwasher will clean well. How does it pump out?, I don't see a pump connected to the motor, is it gravity drain?

You mention that they say they are part of AVCO Manufacturing?? Is that correct? Thats Bendix Home Appliances.



Post# 421713 , Reply# 22   3/10/2010 at 01:57 (5,154 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        
UPDATE:

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Todd (varicyclevoice) was at my home on Saturday March 6th. We ran the first Wet Test on the American Kitchen’s Electric Sink Dishwasher. Here is an abbreviated Video giving an overview of some of the work I’ve done so far, viewing the wash action through a Plexiglas window, a brief look at the Sink cabinet, and completion of the cycle.

Also below are some long-overdue responses to your comments and questions, from the above replies.


THANKS EVERYONE. Mike






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Eddie (toploader55): Yes, I have been continually amazed that this and other Electric Sinks continue to surface. And, Yes, I am thankful to the women, and men, who felt that they could wash dishes better than their dishwashers. Several of the dishwashers in my collection had been used very little.

Paul (turquoisedude): Yes, with the help of Wes, we found another gem. However, I’m not certain that this is the LAST original Roto-Tray dishwasher to be found. When I spoke with the man in Connersville that had worked for D&M, he indicated that he believes there are more Electric Sinks in Connersville. This particular model has a pump, and you can hear it operate in the video. The sound of the pump is similar to that of the Sears Kenmore portable dishwasher I had in high school. How would mid-July be for the next “Dishwasher” Wash Party?

Brent (A440): Thanks for your comments. I think that this and the other Electric Sinks weight probably in the range of 250 pounds plus.

Keith (westingman123): Wow, you might be a dishwasher convert, huh? Regarding clean up – the inside was in very good condition and cleaned up very nice. The latex paint came off of the sink wash-board. But the porcelain is simply gone in the middle-bottom of the sink bowl. There is rust on both sides of the cabinet. So it’s going to take some work. I have also worked on removing the latex paint on the under-sink doors. The paint is stubborn. I have been using “Citristrip”, and I’m finding that even using a plastic scrapper, I’m scratching the original paint off. But I’m going to keep trying and will decide later hot to best preserve the cabinet and sink. How would mid-July work out for you for the next “Dishwasher” Wash Party?

Steve (Gyrafoam): Yes, I love the impeller dishwashers the best. As you can see, though, in the video, the Roto-Tray doesn’t turn very fast.

Tom (CircleW): Regarding the American Kitchens cabinets – yes, I believe that the sink faucet is the original, and the pull knobs on the doors are original as well. I too, in the latter 1970’s lived in a home that had all AK cabinets, but no Electric Sink – the sink faucet in a photo – looks very similar to the one on my Electric Sink. Thank you for the Noel’s Plumbing lead on faucet parts!

Darren (aldspinboy): Thanks. I too love the colors on the dial. The inside of the machine is indeed in great shape. Regarding the Kitchenaid Briva Dishwasher in Sink – Yes, I bought my model KIDS01EKSS0 (December 2003) on ebay. It needs to have a lid rope repaired. And I’ve been trying to find a used base cabinet to fit it in. Right now, it’s taken a lower priority, but I certainly want to get it hooked up.

Pete (rollermatic): Thanks. The bottom rack is a little different than your Modern Maid. My rack is much more open – making it more susceptible to items dropping through and hitting the impeller. I’m definitely going to be very careful with that. Yes, Larry has more D&M impellers at about $40 a piece. I’m passing for right now since I have a spare. There was a seep where the sump mounts to the bottom of the tub – but I’m hoping I’ll be able to gently loosen the clamp and sump – then be able to reseal it. Based on the two 1952 vintage magazine ads that I now have, my machine looks virtually identical to the pictures. So until I discover differently, I’m calling it a 1952 machine. Thanks again.

Ben (swestoyz) and Sandy (denemodsandy): I purchased both the powder and liquid Zud. It worked pretty well cleaning up the unpainted side of the cabinet. I took a wire wheel on my electric drill with the powder Zud, and it does clean up the rust, but I’m down to the metal – the old porcelain is gone in the center of the sink bowl. I will continue to work on the bowl, but I’m convinced that likely I’ll have to have it repainted after I get it fully cleaned up. Thanks for the advice.

Darrel (frontaloadotmy): Thank you for your encouragement. Sorry I don’t have the machine looking “just out of the crate” quite yet. Like some of my other dishwashers, this will be a labor of love to get it looking like new.

Terry (tlee618): Thanks. Yes, talking to the man that worked for D&M was such a treat, and the information that he has is just incredible.

Jon (Jetcone): To answer your question about what is an Electric Sink – mainly it was the fact that the Dishwasher was incorporated into the sink cabinet. But Garbage Disposers were also available as far back as the 1940’s. Many of the magazine ads I’ve seen for the various Electric Sinks, also were showing the Disposers. So there were two electrical components associated with the Sink cabinet. From what I’ve seen, most manufactures had dropped Electric by the mid to late 1950’s. Only KitchenAid (I believe I’m remembering what Todd – vericyclevoice just told me) continued to make Electric Sinks into the mid 1980’s. Also, look at aw.org thread #21050 in the 2009 archives - the Walker, Kohler and Conover companies were making Electric Sinks as early as the 1920’s. And Yes, American Kitchens was a division of AVCO from 1946 until Sam Regenstrief purchased that division and renamed the company D&M in 1959.


Post# 421715 , Reply# 23   3/10/2010 at 02:06 (5,154 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        
Sink porcelain.

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Look up businesses that refinish bathtubs. Take the sink to them and have it blasted and reporcelained.

Dave


Post# 421719 , Reply# 24   3/10/2010 at 03:15 (5,154 days old) by westingman123 ()        
Oh, I am so converted!

I watched that video in awe! And how cool is that drainboard? July would be just fine, thank you! But you may want to chain those puppies down, one of them would be the perfect complement to my 1948 kitchen! :-)

Post# 421736 , Reply# 25   3/10/2010 at 08:19 (5,154 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Dishwasher!

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Mike
This was such a great video!
I hope to chat soon!
Peter


Post# 421773 , Reply# 26   3/10/2010 at 11:37 (5,154 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
All dishwashers should have windows.

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That video was wonderful Mike, I love the turning roto-rack! Ahhh the wonders of plexglas!

Post# 421794 , Reply# 27   3/10/2010 at 13:21 (5,154 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Great video Mike, that great wash action, it's fun to see what goes on inside of a dishwasher.

Post# 421839 , Reply# 28   3/10/2010 at 17:21 (5,153 days old) by customline (pennsylvania)        
Well......

I am very impressed. Can't wait to see the cabinet cleaned up and shiny with a new paint job.

Post# 421874 , Reply# 29   3/10/2010 at 18:39 (5,153 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Mike - another great video! I've often wondered how fast the Roto-Rack turned during wash. Now we all know!

Ben


Post# 421959 , Reply# 30   3/11/2010 at 06:18 (5,153 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Mike what power of water in that dishwasher, nice video and beautiful work !
I have the Briva promotion dvd i would like to send it to you if you would like, just E-mail me.





Darren k.


Post# 422089 , Reply# 31   3/11/2010 at 21:32 (5,152 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Very nice Mike. I too had visions of the upper tray spinning a bit faster, but probably very good since the tray isn't nearly as deep as much later generations of round racks--so taller things ocduld have been flung out maybe if rotated too much. but, I have to wonder, was that a proper complete fill? I had imagined more of a rotating wall of water when fully running. (Like on the Frigidaire D&M top loading portable).

Post# 422099 , Reply# 32   3/12/2010 at 00:00 (5,152 days old) by Spiceman1957 ()        
You guys did a nice job

with the first repairs and the video. I continue to be amazed how loud these machines were compared to today's dishwashers. How much water do you think this machine used. You mentioned a pilot light? I assumed that was what illuminates the dial on the bottom. Of course, dummy me, was thinking of a gas line lol. While viewing this video, I was thinking you would not have been able to put Tupperware or any other kind of soft plastic items in this dishwasher because of the force of the water and the heat of the heating coil.
John


Post# 422149 , Reply# 33   3/12/2010 at 10:52 (5,152 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
Wow, Mike!

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What a fantastic machine and video! It really is impressive how much water flow is generated by the wash impeller - thank you for sharing this view of the cascades of water from a 'front load' perspective. You found yet another treasure - congratulations!!
Question: is the roto-rack motor driven or is it the force of the water spray that makes it rotate?? Does it really 'clean dishes three times better than if washed by hand' like the old American Kitchens ad said?? LOL


Post# 422235 , Reply# 34   3/12/2010 at 19:55 (5,151 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Dave (volvoguy87): I have a guy locally who refinishes bathtubs – he redid mine a few years ago – and I will likely phone him for at least a quote on refinishing the sink bowl.

Keith (westingman123): Glad you liked the video. Yes, the drainboard is in remarkable condition considering how awful shape the sink is in. Do stay tuned for July.

Peter (peteski50): Thank you, glad you liked the video. Yes, look forward to talking to you again soon.

Robert (Unimatic1140): I certainly agree that all dishwashers should have windows to satisfy a boy’s curiosity – case in point: James and Youngstown. Thanks – glad you liked the video. When the impeller first started up, there was a whoosh of water that I was not expecting. I love these little surprises, and my ’Oh! ’ reaction, caught on tape. I also like the turning of the Roto-Tray - I really expected it to turn counter-clockwise, in other words, in the same direction that the impeller turns, but no, the Roto-Tray contra-rotated (opposite) in a clockwise direction. Makes me wonder now, if there are no plates or other dishes in the bottom rack – which direction will the Roto-Tray turn? More testing needs to be done, but first, I need to rethink the way I fit the Plexiglas so that it fits better and isn’t such a pain to seal water in.

Jim (autowasherfreak): Thanks Jim. Yes, I am fascinated by the water action inside of a dishwasher.

Kevin (customline): Thanks. I’m anxious to see the cabinet cleaned up with a fresh coat of paint myself. Your 1957 Westinghouse and Kenmore dishwashers sound really cool. Do you have pictures?

Ben (swestoyz): Thanks. Yes, now we know how fast this particular Roto-Tray turns. But we have to remember that it’s turning solely by the water action from the impeller, unlike the newer, ie: Kenmore, roto-rack dishwashers with the dedicated spray tube. They turned much faster than this machine.

Darren (aldspinboy): Thanks. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I really appreciate your generosity and your experiences. It was good to talk to you too.

Bob (appnut): Yes, I’m glad that the top rack does not turn very fast. You were wondering about the amount of water. If you look at the video again, right when the motor/impeller stops, I think it is at about 6:11. If you look closely, you can see the water line is right about at the top of the sunken part of the tub that surrounds the impeller - I’ve roughly measuring that the water level would have been about 2” to 2 ˝” deep above the bottom of the impeller. And gauging the amount of water that was in the bucket from the Wash pump out – it measured about 1 ˝ gallons. In addition, the dishwasher has a pressure switch that is connected by a rubber hose to the sump - and I am pretty certain that it was working and cut the water valve off. Thanks for your comments.

John (Spiceman1957): Thanks. Glad you liked the video. Yes all of these dishwashers are loud, in my opinion, due to several things: impellers throw water more forcefully than spray arms; no use of insulation; tub sides – as in the early portables like the GE Mobile Maid, were actually the outside of the dishwasher; top loading dishwasher lids such as the Homart, the early GE machines, and others, were the top of the cabinet. Actually, for me personally, as a kid, I don’t think I would have been nearly as enamored with the G.E. Electric Sink Dishwasher had it not been for the loud sounds that it made washing. As stated above, each wash or rinse uses about 1 ˝ gallons of water. Yes, the pilot light that I was referring to is the bulb behind the dial, and when the bottom panel is put back on, there is only a small hole for the light to shine through to give more of a point of light behind the dial. Tupperwear – Yes I didn’t think of that but you are right – those early cereal bowl, tumblers, and especially lids, would have warped significantly in the super heated wash water. Melmac and other molded dinnerware.

Paul (turquoisedude): Thanks, glad you liked the video. Yes, I really like the water action. And it is great to see an impeller dishwasher from a side view perspective. Yes, the Roto-Tray is turned only by the force of the water from the impeller. As for cleaning 3 times better, of course – with the hotter water than hands can stand, and the 10 minute wash period. Problem is, there were little bits of crud stuck up inside of the glasses at the end of the wash – this could have been residue leftover from the cleaning I did. I needs to be run a couple more times, and then I will be able to tell if the stuff still sticks up in the glasses. Adding Jet Dry or other products might help with the final rinse clearing the stuff as well. Come back in July and see for yourself, whether it cleans better or not!



These photos were taken before I did any cleaning underneath the wash tub. Photo shows the original Dole water valve. One can see the pump connected to the end of the sump leading from the bottom of the tank. The pressure switch can be seen mounted on the frame and attached to the sump via the hose. And the back of the sink shows the inlet water gap on the right, and the drain air gap on the left.


Post# 422272 , Reply# 35   3/12/2010 at 23:48 (5,151 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
Fired-on Porcelain

Mike, for the most durable, authentic finish, you'll want a true fired on porcelain enamel. Most porcelain refinishing is a cured paint-like product. There are several companies that do the fired on process; many times advertised as stove refinishers. The one below does appliance refinishing. It is located in Independence,MO.

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Post# 422291 , Reply# 36   3/13/2010 at 03:29 (5,151 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
wow

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i am really envious of this whole unit , it must have seemed the height of modernity back then, can i ask a question of all you impellor dishwasher owners ? how far up the impellor do they fill , i ask this as mine is a time fill so it depends on incoming pressure etc i set mine to fill up to the top of the drain cover as it has an overflow hole. Mine needs a new impellor but still not got around to buying one yet. Hence the poor wash perfomance, but what a good idea a roto rack is. Well done on your find

Richard


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Post# 422302 , Reply# 37   3/13/2010 at 08:31 (5,151 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Tom (CircleW): Thank you for the link for Porcelain refinishing.

Richard (Ricky5050): My D&M Repair-Master Dishwasher repair manual shows the water level just about half way up the impeller when at rest. Likely this translates to about 1 to 1 and 1/2 gallons of water (4-6 l). It looks like you are getting good water action in your Kenwood machine.


Post# 422360 , Reply# 38   3/13/2010 at 16:38 (5,150 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
mike i just watched your video

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on you tube and i really like it! that plexiglass is great!

you know i have a very similiar machine, the modern maid impeller dishwasher with roto rack. it is basically identical to your electric sink dishwasher. since the tub door is square in the corners i have often thought of how easy it would be to put plexiglass on it. after watching your video i am definately going to do the same thing with mine!

i'll have to figure a way to clamp the plexiglass to the tub opening at various points to prevent leaks but it will be a lot of fun to see this machine in action like you are doing with yours!

i was surprised your roto rack was moving so slow and leisurely! it is a good pace, like you said in your video!

anyway, thanks for a very entertaining and informative video. one of these days i'll ask you to help me get set up to put movies on you tube and this site. i have windows movie maker on my computer, i think i need to buy a peice of hardware to make it work. but i'll talk to you personally about that later. again thanks for another great video!


Post# 422477 , Reply# 39   3/14/2010 at 09:24 (5,150 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Mike & Todd

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Way nice video there, I really like your cycle overlays too! Must remember that tip.

What a cool machine, a "bendix" dishwasher would have looked like that. I love the way the top panels slope up and out to the counter, you don't see that in modern appliances much!

It looks like you have a real nice appliance studio there, the glass in the background opens it up to gales of sunlight. Did you rehab a garage?
Jon & Artey



Post# 422674 , Reply# 40   3/15/2010 at 09:15 (5,149 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL)        

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Pete (rollermatic): Thanks Pete. Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, it will be interesting if you fit a piece of Plexiglas to your Modern Maid dishwasher – would like to compare the speed of the roto-tray in yours. Clamping the Plexiglas to the tub is difficult – I am still trying to figure out how I can improve it.

Re – recording video: The camera that I am using is a Sony Cyber-Shot model DSC-H7. It is mainly a point and shoot camera with video capability. Movies are recorded on a Memory Stick. I can either move the memory stick to my laptop, or connect the camera to the computer via a USB cord. After the video is transferred, I use Microsoft’s Movie Maker, which came with my laptop. Movie Maker allows me to segment the video as many times as I need, so that I can separate out the portions of the video I want to include in the movie, and which portions I want to discard. Then it is a matter of dragging the desired clips to a timeline; inserting transitions; adding text overlays; and tweaking until I’m satisfied.


Jon (Jetcone): Thanks. Glad you like the overlays. Yes, I keep thinking of ways to improve my videos and I felt that was an important thing to include this time, especially since I had to edit out 25 minutes from the entire cycle. Yes, I too like the design of the sink cabinet.

My “test shop” is really a 3-seasons, southern facing, sun room – which I call my Solarium (see photo). It was added onto the house several years prior to me buying this house in 2005.


Mike


Post# 422794 , Reply# 41   3/15/2010 at 18:44 (5,148 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I'd love a

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Sunlight washer studio!


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