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Post# 418106   2/24/2010 at 06:09 (5,146 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

It's been awhile and i have been checking CL to no avail, it would be nice if we could have a new thread of vids and pics, of solid tub machines. It's the end of winter, maybe some banging solenoids and overflow rinsing would give everybody a lift. Thanks arthur/alr2903




Post# 418110 , Reply# 1   2/24/2010 at 07:25 (5,146 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Suds Return

I always wanted to see the suds return cycle in a solid tub washer. I've seen them in perforated tubs, where it agitates as the suds come in through the bottom, but I've never seen how it works in a solid tub. I figure the suds must have to come in over the top of the tub.

Post# 418154 , Reply# 2   2/24/2010 at 12:04 (5,146 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Hey Gary, I have a solid tub machine with suds saver system that I am almost finished with. The suds return port does come from above the top of the solid tub. The machine should be ready for it's first wash this weekend. I will post some pixs within the next week or so.

Post# 418180 , Reply# 3   2/24/2010 at 13:48 (5,146 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
I'll be glad to contribute

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I don't have a video camera that's any good but I'll certainly take some new and detailed pictures.

Post# 418384 , Reply# 4   2/25/2010 at 08:16 (5,145 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Thanks:)

This will be very intriguing to see:)

Gary


Post# 418420 , Reply# 5   2/25/2010 at 11:01 (5,145 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Rollermatic

Friends had a Frigidasire with suds saver. When the return was activated a separate electric pump filled the tub through a flume that directed the water into the tub. No drama. As I remember the timer had to be manually moved the wash section for the cycle to continue.

Post# 418441 , Reply# 6   2/25/2010 at 13:08 (5,145 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
As far as I know

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the return is automatic, with no need to manually move the timer and operated during the fill portion of the cycle. It takes 4 minutes to return the suds to match the usual fresh water 4 minute fill time; hence, the weak small slow pump. The return is selected on the Wash Temp Control: "Hot- Warm- Cold- Suds Water Saver" were the readings on Aunt Ellen's Mid -60's Multimatic.

Rick's new beauty looks like it works the same way, although his has a separate control. Can't wait to find out.

Ditto, Kelly, no drama! No agitation, cool noises, etc., nothing like the excitement of a WP/KM.

I'll have pix soon of a few solid tubs.


Post# 418503 , Reply# 7   2/25/2010 at 17:42 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
As Promised, here are some pictures to contribute

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Here we have the empty tub on the 1967 Frigidaire Rollermatic Rapidry

Post# 418505 , Reply# 8   2/25/2010 at 17:44 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        


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This is the empty tub on the 1965 Frigidare Custom Deluxe Rollermatic. Notice the difference in the speckling.

Post# 418506 , Reply# 9   2/25/2010 at 17:45 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        


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Here I am just home from the gym getting the machines ready to go.

Post# 418507 , Reply# 10   2/25/2010 at 17:46 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
The Rapidry Filling with a load of pants and shorts

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Post# 418508 , Reply# 11   2/25/2010 at 17:47 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Meanwhile,

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The '65 Turquoise awaits with a load of shirts.

Post# 418509 , Reply# 12   2/25/2010 at 17:48 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Still Filling...

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Post# 418510 , Reply# 13   2/25/2010 at 17:48 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Getting underway

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Post# 418511 , Reply# 14   2/25/2010 at 17:49 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
A nice sudsy wash!

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Post# 418512 , Reply# 15   2/25/2010 at 17:49 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Overflow Rinse

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Post# 418513 , Reply# 16   2/25/2010 at 17:51 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Throwing the Water!

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Post# 418514 , Reply# 17   2/25/2010 at 17:52 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Coasting down from spin and filling for the rinse

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Post# 418515 , Reply# 18   2/25/2010 at 17:52 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Rinse

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Post# 418516 , Reply# 19   2/25/2010 at 17:53 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        


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Post# 418517 , Reply# 20   2/25/2010 at 17:54 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Rapidry 1000 Spin

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Doesn't look like eh?

Post# 418518 , Reply# 21   2/25/2010 at 17:55 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
And now for the Shirts

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The old '65 is a real brute of a machine.

Post# 418519 , Reply# 22   2/25/2010 at 17:55 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Washing

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Post# 418520 , Reply# 23   2/25/2010 at 17:57 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Start of the spin

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The '65 get's the water out really fast. It has the type of clutch that applies full motor torque to the tub.

Post# 418521 , Reply# 24   2/25/2010 at 17:57 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Pulling up to speed

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Post# 418522 , Reply# 25   2/25/2010 at 17:58 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
The Finished product.

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Post# 418539 , Reply# 26   2/25/2010 at 18:34 (5,145 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
"Coasting down from spin and filling for the rinse"

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What a great shot--the de facto or faux spray rinse.

You call the 65 a brute. Is it because of the faster spin wind-up or because she has a few battle scars?

The blue specked tubs are my favorites, either way.

Thanks for the colorful dramatic pix, Joel. Sorry. I now know that you're Joe, but you've been Joel in my head forever. Old habits die hard. ;->


Post# 418541 , Reply# 27   2/25/2010 at 18:43 (5,145 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Beautiful pixs Joel! I love your new window lid too. I really like the Rollermatics.

Post# 418546 , Reply# 28   2/25/2010 at 19:07 (5,145 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
You know,

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...they may have had their faults and they may not have been among the most capacious washers in their day, but I still think Frigidaires like yours with their multi-tinted blue "Jet-Action" agitators and their small but massive washbaskets are among the coolest machines ever built.

Post# 418550 , Reply# 29   2/25/2010 at 19:19 (5,145 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        


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I call the '65 the Brute, because of it's aggressive nature, it's louder and less gracious than the Rapidry machine, it certainly does have it's battle scars around the tub lip as it was used in very rusty water, the inlet screens were clogged with rust when I got it. I love how loudly it slaps water against the outer tub when it's ramping up to spin, and it's more prone to vibrations than the Rapidry, especially if you forget to load it the "Frigidaire Way"

I'm really surprised how much they hold, more than it would appear they do. I had 6 pairs of pants going in the Rapidry, and 14 shirts in the '65.

I've been thinking I'd like to have a '55 Unimatic to go with the '55 Filtrator, they're such a pretty design. I've shyed away because of how hard everyone says they are to work on, but since I've been to Frigidaire Hell with the Rapidry, and done a pump job and minor roller work on the '65 I think I could do anything I need to with enough time and patience.


Post# 418636 , Reply# 30   2/25/2010 at 23:02 (5,145 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Solinoid Cycle Change

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think WP/KM is the only make that ever had a perf tub with a one-way drive motor and tranny, with solinoid-controlled cycle changes. Every other perf tub I know changes from agitation to spin via reversing motor (sadly, even the later WP/KM). Solinoid changes seemed to be more popular with solid tubs (which made WP/KM unique during their belt-drive days).

Personally, when it comes to WP, I like the old "woo-woo-woo-woo" better than today's "thunka-thunka-thunka-thunka."

I also can only fantasize what it would have been like if WP ever had a solid tub. Would it have actually gone to lengths to create a neutral drain somehow? Maybe a mechanical straw would shoot into the tub after agitation period ends! LOL!


Post# 418638 , Reply# 31   2/25/2010 at 23:10 (5,145 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
I Know...

...I won't give up my day job to be a comedian:D

Post# 418658 , Reply# 32   2/26/2010 at 01:27 (5,144 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Joe, thanks for all the pictures of your machines, Your Frigidaires are well taken care of. Thanks again arthur/alr2903

Post# 418682 , Reply# 33   2/26/2010 at 07:58 (5,144 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
SOLID TUB WITH NEUTRAL DRAIN

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Blackstones first three automatics all through the1950s had solid tubs with neutral drain. they were the models 150-250-350 the bendix rubber tub washers would also be neutral drain although they didn't spin at all they sucked the water out the bottom pulling the tub in against the clothes.

Post# 420315 , Reply# 34   3/4/2010 at 07:45 (5,138 days old) by ingliscanada ()        
Maytag AMP

One washer I always wanted to see in action is the old Maytag AMP.

Post# 420334 , Reply# 35   3/4/2010 at 10:10 (5,138 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Blackstone 350 Spray rinsing

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Post# 420335 , Reply# 36   3/4/2010 at 10:13 (5,138 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
View 2

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The white ring in the outer tub is the water expelling from the tub slits

Post# 420336 , Reply# 37   3/4/2010 at 10:19 (5,138 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Near-sightted friendly dials

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that light up orange courtesy of Gregm and Jetcone

Post# 420343 , Reply# 38   3/4/2010 at 10:24 (5,138 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
And of course, the requisite wild agitation shot

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Have a nice luncheon, everyone! Throw your soiled napkins into the insane Blackstone Turbulence ;-> YAY


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