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Frigidaire FL water level ?
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Post# 419009   2/27/2010 at 15:48 (5,143 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Hi All:
I'm rarely on this "new" side of the forum! Question: On this model Frigidaire, should the water level be tweeked to fill higher? I don't want to damage the bearing or motor, but it seems quite stingy. What do you think? Here is the model:
Bobby in Boston





Post# 419010 , Reply# 1   2/27/2010 at 15:49 (5,143 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Here are two different shots of the water level:

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Another:
Thanks for your help.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 419014 , Reply# 3   2/27/2010 at 16:01 (5,143 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I would...specs call for I think about 3 inches....I always made it about 6, as long as its below the door your good

look behind the service panel at the bottom, it will tell you what the level is supposed to be....but I alway raise it a little....


Post# 419038 , Reply# 4   2/27/2010 at 18:03 (5,143 days old) by favorit ()        

Bobby, is this very level used also in rinses ?

Post# 419046 , Reply# 5   2/27/2010 at 19:13 (5,143 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
i have a frigidaire front

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loader i got in about year 2000 and i have always thought it was stingy on the water it used.

so last summer i added a switch that i can turn on and fill it up as far as i want. i also added a switch to turn off timer motor and let it wash or spin as long as i want.

i have filled it halfway up the door on several occasions by accident and it has had no problems as yet. i use it almost every day as it is my main washer.

i might be doing bearing damage but if so i will deal with it when it happens, i love having enough water in there to really wash the clothes like my old westinghouse front loader used to.

my frigidaire looks exactly like yours as far as tub and door are concerned, mine just has the controls on the front as it was a stackable unit.


Post# 419083 , Reply# 6   2/27/2010 at 23:46 (5,143 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Not sure about your Frigidaire.... Here are some photos of my 2004 Maytag Neptune. The Neptune was about 4.5 inches deep. Both your Frigidaire and my Neptune have much higher water levels than my Kenmore HET3 had which was about 1 inch if that.

Jim


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Post# 419106 , Reply# 10   2/28/2010 at 01:42 (5,142 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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That looks like the PERFECT water level! I've adjusted my Duet (2004) also to use almost that much water....Not quite, but almost.

Post# 419164 , Reply# 11   2/28/2010 at 08:19 (5,142 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        

Bobby in Boston:
I have the next generation Frigidaire Gallery Front Loader (GLTF2940FS) I can't adjust the water level on that machine (as I found out from earlier threads).

I don't know if this helps, but on the machine I have there is a BULKY setting that fills the water part way up the glass in the door. As well as delicate, wool and some other cycles that do the same thing.

If you have cycles on your machine that fill more water (say for bulky or delicates) then perhaps it is okay for you to adjust the water level?

However, I think the low water level is part of the wash action on normal and Perm press cycles.

my 1.5c worth of information. :-)

Imperial70 (West of boston)


Post# 419335 , Reply# 12   2/28/2010 at 16:45 (5,142 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Imperial.....I've heard that before too.....I don't see ANY videos whatsoever anywhere for a bulky cycle. My Duet doesn't have one so I have no clue how much water the Duet bulky cycle or any other American FL bulky cycle uses for that matter. If anyone has a bulky cycle video....Please post it.....Especially if it's an American FL washer :)

Post# 419666 , Reply# 13   3/1/2010 at 17:49 (5,141 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

This earlier model only has one fill level. There is no "bulky" setting, neither a higher rinse level setting like there is on the newer models.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 420286 , Reply# 14   3/4/2010 at 01:26 (5,138 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Bobby, I have one of these too, but mine are 13 years old now and they are stackable. The water level in "our" machines is higher then the newer and newest machines! I have a 5 year old LG front load / rear control washer and the water level is MUCH lower then the Frigidaire Gallery washer. Also, once my BRAND NEW Kenmore Elite He5t Steam washer gets a new computer and wire harness (UGH!), I'll be able to check the water lever on that one!


Post# 420304 , Reply# 15   3/4/2010 at 06:47 (5,138 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WATER LEVEL AND SEAL & BEARING LIFE

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Raising the water level a few inches will not affect the seal and bearings at all. The seals are made to get wet the higher WL may even improve the seal life by washing more of the gunk away from the seal area that causes the seal to fail in the first place.

Post# 420306 , Reply# 16   3/4/2010 at 06:54 (5,138 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Thanks guys. I always loved front loaders until I saw how little water these new ones use. My old Dexter and the Ametek Troy Laundrites I used to work with would fill at least 1/3 of the drum and the clothes would really slosh around and get clean. Just for fun I'll tweek this one a bit.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 420342 , Reply# 17   3/4/2010 at 10:24 (5,138 days old) by favorit ()        

Bob,
what you said about the Dexter makes a lot of sense.
Commercial machines are supposed to have a high throughtput.
The more one can wash in the least time ... the more ca$h
So commercial frontloaders *without internal heater* (e.g. coin op ones) use that high level even in the main wash to have real hot water. The downside : half loads don't tumble properly but rather roll, so they don't get as clean as full loads.

Heated frontloaders (vintage and current, residential and commercial, cold fill only and hot/cold fill ones) use a lower level in the main wash to have proper tumbles with whatever load and rinse with levels up to 1/3 to have decent rinses.

That said, this was not always true. I have in the garage two vintage residential frontloaders. One has a 1/3 drum level and has the "full load only" issue. The other one has a 1/4 (maybe 1/5) level .... and doesn't wash well neither rinses well.

A 140°F cycle in both my mieles (one has around the same age the other 10 y.o) performs far better than a boilwash in the garage machines.

What doesn't make sense is that Frigidaire merged in Electrolux in 1986, two years later than Zanussi.
Zanussi machines had higher rinse levels, your Frigidaire doesn't. It seems that european and american headquarters didn't share their own know-how.

At least Whirlpool does. The Power Clean module first appeared on their american DW, now it's shared with euro models. On the opposite way frontloader know how from WP EU is used by WP NorthAmerica too.




Post# 420357 , Reply# 18   3/4/2010 at 11:28 (5,138 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
WP POWER CLEAN DISHWASHERS

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I can't believe WP is using the real 1/3 HP pump in European machines a bet they are just using the same name. Please post a picture of the pump and motor or an inside picture of one of these machines I would love to see what they are using thanks.

Post# 420361 , Reply# 19   3/4/2010 at 11:42 (5,138 days old) by bobbyderegis (Boston)        

Thanks for the info Favorit. The Dexter only takes 20 minutes for a full cycle.
Bobby in Boston


Post# 420370 , Reply# 20   3/4/2010 at 12:16 (5,138 days old) by favorit ()        
PowerClean .... i' m skeptic too

Tom,
I mean those still nozzles in the rear wall of the tub.
As for the pump I hope they use a more powerful pump in these models,
cause previous ones had a poor 80 watt "sprinkler" rather than a pump .... some drain pumps are more powerful

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