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Moving Miele washers without transit bars
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Post# 421730   3/10/2010 at 07:15 (5,133 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

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...Ok, I am working on the assumption that I get this machine (W698) off ebay...

Any thoughts as to how to secure the drum without transit bars? I have to move it approx 20klms...





Post# 421731 , Reply# 1   3/10/2010 at 07:18 (5,133 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Why don't you ask one of your local dealers for discarded ones? They might be willing to help you

Post# 421734 , Reply# 2   3/10/2010 at 07:58 (5,132 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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I doubt that it would make any difference. We transport machines without any bars for hundreds of miles sometimes with no ill effect.

The transit brackets are more for initial transportation on lorries and wagons where there may be uncarefulness of drivers and other associates involved in delivery from factory to consumer.

Just make sure the machine is laid on the side opposite to the dispenser drawer to stop water peeing out.



Post# 421745 , Reply# 3   3/10/2010 at 09:05 (5,132 days old) by aaronfitzy (Pennsylvania)        
I've wondered about this also....

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After reading the manual to my Duet washer, it states that I HAVE to contact Sears to have them come out and secure the drum before I transport the washer. It also says that the original shipping bolts cannot be used, yeah right! I saved my shipping bolts and that's what I'll be using when or if I move.

Aaron


Post# 421762 , Reply# 4   3/10/2010 at 10:05 (5,132 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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All of my machines are transported on their side in the back of my RAV4 or 4Runner, dispenser side up.

Post# 421774 , Reply# 5   3/10/2010 at 11:38 (5,132 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Interesting...Different Ways

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hey Chris, the big thing is just make sure you get it!!!

If I have to transport on their side its always dispenser side down as the drum can lay against it for support and then the timer & electrics are always on top!!!!...this stops any water from hitting the electrics.....

If you are worried about the struts then I would whip the top off and stuff a rolled up towel down each side, and front & back if you can, to hold the drum securely....


Post# 421799 , Reply# 6   3/10/2010 at 13:33 (5,132 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hi Chris

If you can put it on its side in a station wagon rather than upright in a trailer, you'll get a lot less bounce. We use the Landcruiser for Moving the FL machines because they just slide in the back upright.

When it goes in my wagon I follow mikes advice, except I lay them dispensor side up so that the dispenser to tub hose doesnt get crushed where it press fits into the side of the tub. As long as you tilt it over gently and dont just drop it to the side, the Miele has 4 springs on top and two shock absorbers so its hard to hurt and everything moves back into place when you stand it back up.

Another piece of advice, depending on how big your cargo area is, Tie it down. Use a ratchet strap, because you'll be amazed how fast a 100kg Miele can side and either damage itself or the window tint/glass. If you have to fold the rear seats, pad any hinges well and make sure the machine cant move, or you could end up damaging the porcelain finish in the sides. On machines that I have to rest in the back/over the seats, I usually connect the ratchet strap to the toungue that the seats clip onto when locked upright.


Post# 421805 , Reply# 7   3/10/2010 at 13:48 (5,132 days old) by favorit ()        
congrats Chris !!

I'm with Mike and Nathan ... but as for fastening it with belts, I were more worried about the washer damaging the car rather than the opposite :)

My sister moved twice and I don't guess my B.I.L. has ever used the struts. Do some weight lifting as training, the beast weights round 100 kg :)


Post# 421819 , Reply# 8   3/10/2010 at 15:39 (5,132 days old) by bertrum ()        

Im with aquarius1984 and Peter on this one. I always transport machines laying on the oppsosite side to the dispenser drawer. If a heavy drum is sitting on the dispenser box it will go crack as soon as you hit a bump.

Post# 421823 , Reply# 9   3/10/2010 at 16:14 (5,132 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Well.....

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I`ve probably transported more front loaders than Rob or Peter put together like that and never had a cracked dispenser yet, luck of the draw (every pun intended) or law of averages I guess...Lol

Post# 421834 , Reply# 10   3/10/2010 at 16:58 (5,132 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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I fail to see how water can escape Mike when the drawer is upmost. Naturally we always plug the drain hose but there should be no water leakage or damage to electrics.

We find that we get water everywhere when transporting them on the drawer side as it comes out the sump up the drum and into the soap hose.

Different experiences as you say.


Post# 421838 , Reply# 11   3/10/2010 at 17:14 (5,132 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Thinking about it we got the advice from Mathew when we picked up the first machine the Electron 1100,

Its the way he moves his rental machines around to reduce the risk of damage so we have always used his method with the most success.


Post# 421840 , Reply# 12   3/10/2010 at 17:25 (5,132 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Thanks people....

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....now just to get it....

...and wear the flack of 'He who thinks he knows best'...

Seems left or right doesn't matter much so long as she doesn't slide around in the load bay of the car...

..will pack with towels/pillows to stop any internal damage anyway...just to make sure!



Post# 421847 , Reply# 13   3/10/2010 at 17:36 (5,132 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
One Can Purchase Shipping Bolts From Miele

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If you feel they are required, just have Miele Oz look up the part number.

Ordered a set for my unit to have it moved, and the Miele tech who took the order said so many people have to order new sets of shipping braces because installers of new units take them away. Miele chucks them into the rubbish unless the installer/Miele tech takes them and does not turn them in.


Post# 421854 , Reply# 14   3/10/2010 at 17:50 (5,132 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

If you put it dispenser side down make sure you remove the inspection cover from the pump first and drain the machine, the Miele's also have an air break in the drain line, so if there is any water in there it will come out the air break as well as the dispenser drawer.

Post# 421858 , Reply# 15   3/10/2010 at 18:02 (5,132 days old) by favorit ()        
Launderess you're right but ....

... you know Miele Service, maybe he would pay more for the struts than for the washer LOL

Current machines have a "struts-holder" in the back


Post# 422024 , Reply# 16   3/11/2010 at 12:31 (5,131 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
Chris you should be fine

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Like others here, I've transported and moved all my Miele washers in without shipping bolts installed with no problems at all. They would help if the machine fell off the back of my pickup but thankfully that has not happened. Congrats on getting this Miele, you're going to love it.


Post# 422125 , Reply# 17   3/12/2010 at 07:46 (5,131 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

Hi Chris

I have a Miele W830 which I have transported 3 times in the back of my wagon with no damage. Last trip was only last weekend, I had given the machine to a relative, they have used it for a while, then said it wasn't working, it just skips through a cycle, flashing each display light for a second then skipping to the next. They bought a new Simpson FL basic model, I brought the Miele home and so far I can't fault it, though I haven't run a full cycle yet, just a couple of spins. Any way, no transport damage.

If you wish to be really careful, you can scrounge some heavy cardboard and/or some polystyrene packaging from your friendly local big appliance store, then stuff them up inside the machine between the drum and the side wall. It helps prevent inside-out dents. But the Mieles are pretty tough - there's probably more metal in one Miele than in a dozen Kia Rios.

(speaking of which, how's the Morris going?)

Chris.


Post# 422129 , Reply# 18   3/12/2010 at 08:15 (5,130 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Dunno about Miele

But Zanussi say not to ever sit their older machines (and possibly newer ones too) on their back or sides, as it can damage the pressure system. This goes for when carrying out repairs aswell as during transportation.

I've always transported mine in the upright position, usually with towels or sheets round the drum to stop too much movement on bumpy bits of road.

Whilst i've not needed to tip the machines up to carry out repairs, i intend to lay them on their front with some sponge or layers of towels under the facia & door to prevent damage, should i need to repair anything.


Post# 422130 , Reply# 19   3/12/2010 at 08:21 (5,130 days old) by FL1012 ()        

Also, it'd be advisable to make sure the facia end of the machine is elevated slightly, ie by placing a block of wood under the towels/padding. This will stop any residual water running towards the timer & electrics.

Post# 422159 , Reply# 20   3/12/2010 at 11:59 (5,130 days old) by favorit ()        
" flashing each display light for a second then skipping

Chris (gizmo)
have they any kids ?

This sounds like the rapid advance mode.
If someone has turned the dial to "end" (noon on dial) while she's (e.g.) on "prewash", the "wash" led flashes 3 times, then the rinse one, so the spin one ...... end :)

If you suddenly turn it back to the previous programme/temp it runs the corresponding step of the flashing light.

I use this trick to re-rinse *full drum* loads on permapress .... know that it is *verboten*, but when one's in a hurry ... no time to split into two loads, so.... :)

Would be a different matter if a light is still flashing when the "end" one is steady (fault, but here let's touch wood)



Post# 422201 , Reply# 21   3/12/2010 at 15:26 (5,130 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Well....

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....we have some old pillows that we were going to throw out so I thought I would pop the top and use 3 of those then lie either dispenser side or timer side down with some towels underneath to catch any water that may come out....

Alternatively, may borrow a ute and move upright...

It only has a 20min car ride to do....

Chris, Ollie is going well and now has a garage partner...We're off to Tassie again this year but with the Citroen Car clubs to 'Cit-In' in Launceston....



Post# 422204 , Reply# 22   3/12/2010 at 16:02 (5,130 days old) by bertrum ()        

ha ha, sorry I burst out laughing when I saw your ride!


............Im sure it has its own gallic charm.


Post# 422243 , Reply# 23   3/12/2010 at 20:27 (5,130 days old) by FL1012 ()        

Is it a DS? They could be all the rage now that Citroen's launching its new DS range. The DS3 is being very heavily advertised at the minute. Looks good too.

The old DS's were way ahead of their time.


Post# 422257 , Reply# 24   3/12/2010 at 21:33 (5,130 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Ha Ha...all you like...

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....but at 36yrs of age, this little GS has some serious oomph compared to when it was new....

AND....I'd actually like to know, because you burst out laughing (and note that I'm not offended...just curious), just what is so humourous about a 36yr old French car...

I suppose it could be something that the majority of Brits just don't 'get'...

...an interesting aside...

I also have an Australian built Morris 1100 's' automatic - that is 1275cc + 4spd auto...

The basic shape of the GS you see in the pic above is same size and overall shape of a design study done for BMC on ADO16 - Austin/Morris 1100 in 1967/8 by Pininfarina....

If the GS had been water cooled rather than air-cooled, it would almost certainly have looked even closer to the one you see here....

...but then the Brits always think they know 'better' or what is 'better for you'...and come the late 1960's didn't have the motoring forsight to build something a little left of field....

So just where is the once magnificent British motoring industry?

....either gone, or owned predominantly by Germany or India....

Sorry, did someone say that the French still have their car industry in full production???

Laugh all you like....unless you want an overpriced skateboard, you can't buy a car made in a British owned factory to save yourself....


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Post# 423570 , Reply# 25   3/19/2010 at 10:53 (5,123 days old) by Irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
I think that it is a good Idea

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For this one reason; the miele service guy friend that I have were talking about that when I went to Utah in Sept. I had notcied that I was not get the water out when I would spin out a load. One thing that can make a difference is the floor, they are really sensative, the other is the shocks and struts with mine. They are touchy. For now, it seems better now that it is back a basement with old concrete floors, although, I hear the spring sounds from time to time when it is reving up to spin. I am told that it is from not using the shipping struts. I have considered getting some from Miele; just in case it needs to be moved.I say that it can't hurt to have them on hand. ?? Perhaps?


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