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The First Ever Official Lincoln Wash-in... at a vintage launderette!!
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Post# 75089   7/25/2005 at 16:06 (6,821 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi guys :-)

Well, earlier today Darren (newwave1) and I met up at a launderette down the road from me for Lincoln's first ever wash in. As some of you probably already now, the launderette down the road from where I live has 30-something year old machines (although unfortunately the old Duplex machines were replaced by 30lb Ipsos 1 or 2 years ago). However, 4 Schulthess 6kg machines (in avocado green, dating from 1/72 according to the rating plate) still exist, as do 2 Primus baby-blue washers also from the 70s (the same as the old yellow ones in EastEnders before 1996 or so, when the launderette on EastEnders had a makeover).

Anyhoos, we met up about 11ish at the launderette, and set our sights on 2 Schulthess washers. In avocado green - mmmm! Coins in, Ariel Colour added to pre-wash and mainwash dispensers and off we were going - coloureds in my machine and whites in Darren's. 2 one pound coins and 2 20 pence coins in each machine and away we were going :-).

I must say that these machines are very very very very dramatic. They are absolutely great to watch - they use low water levels in the wash (IMO that's good as I love to see the load slap about in the suds), and very very high water levels in the rinse - about 3/4 up the door! Not just that but for the final spin the machine doesnt drain before it starts the spin :-).

Anyway, here are some pics - unfortunately no pics of the launderette as there were other people about nor any of Darren (although he makes an appearance in one fo the movies :-D), but fortunately none of me :-).

Darren - thank's for the great time, we shall have to meet up again when we're not so pressed for time! Maybe a wash-in using the Primus washers next time? :-).

Take care all,

Jon :-)

Pic no.1 - rather blurry picture of the Schulthess I was using





Post# 75092 , Reply# 1   7/25/2005 at 16:09 (6,821 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Both Schulthess'

My coloureds in the left hand side one, Darren's whites in the right. Control panel from left to right - disc rotates to show programme progress, little dial next to that is temperature selection (only Hot/Warm/Cold - no actual cycle selection), big Schulthess name badge with orange pilot light above it on the right, and the coin slot on the far right.

Post# 75094 , Reply# 2   7/25/2005 at 16:10 (6,821 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Spin-drain

And the oh-so-fabulous spin drain... I have a movie of this if anybody is interested :-). Glenn, you couldn't possible host a couple videos again for me please?

BTW by the time my camera decided to load a lot of the water had spun out, but you get the idea how splashy it is by the movie :-).

Hope you enjoyed the pics!

Jon :-)


Post# 75105 , Reply# 3   7/25/2005 at 17:12 (6,821 days old) by drmitch ()        
Yaay!

Nice pics Jon, these look like some real heavy duty washers! I know you guys had fun!

Post# 75107 , Reply# 4   7/25/2005 at 17:17 (6,821 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Very cool wash-out you guys had - I love those machines! I would love to see the video...

Post# 75114 , Reply# 5   7/25/2005 at 17:52 (6,821 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

The video...

For copies to save please email and I'll send it right along :-)

Enjoy :-D


CLICK HERE TO GO TO lavamat_jon's LINK


Post# 75129 , Reply# 6   7/25/2005 at 19:32 (6,821 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey Guys!
Omg What a wash in! those Schulthess washers are amazing when they zoom into spin with a full load of water (of which was 3/4 up the door) of water! we will b goin bk on fri for sure! btw machine number 3 was amazin :p tht was mine:p hehehe! no really for 30yrs old i cannot belive the powerbehind tht power spin as i'd call it..most modern front loaders would choak...cept 4 the hoover new wave that was designed to do that in the wash cycle!! we will update you with the next launderette lincoln wash in!:D

Darren x


Post# 75144 , Reply# 7   7/25/2005 at 20:11 (6,821 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Darren,

That was one amazing wash in wasn't it? It's a shame we can't invite the whole board - they'd love it there! But imagine the poor launderette attendant (if) they eve walked in and saw 50 grown men all crowding one little machine LOL. Boy could you feel the floor vibrating with the Schulthess spinning with all that water in the drum!!! Hopefully better Schulthess pics and some Primus pics too will be taken on Friday's wash-in!!!

Don,

Those Schulthess machines are solid, even more so than the newer Ipsos that sit right next to them. They are every Applianceviller's dream!!!

Take care all,

Was great to meet with you Darren!!

Jon :-)


Post# 75145 , Reply# 8   7/25/2005 at 20:15 (6,821 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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hey jon!
gr8 2 meet again...oh i gotta agree..sturdy is an understatement 4 those machines...ipso machines should take note! tho there good too!! i just love how it can fill with a 3/4 full washload into a 700rpm spin! love it! friday will be fun! imagine if our AEG's did tht? it'd be heaven! lookin 4ward 2 fri!

Darren x


Post# 75146 , Reply# 9   7/25/2005 at 20:30 (6,821 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jon I'm so glad the two of y'all got to meet. I'm fascinated!!!!! with these machines. I know the big knob, by its colours, has to be water temperature knob. What's the little knob abouve it (like at 2 o'clock) as well as what appears to be some sort of opening or something below the door almost at the base. Details man, what all the selections say. Please!! Thank you in adavance Bob

Post# 75149 , Reply# 10   7/25/2005 at 20:46 (6,821 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        

Jon,
Thanks so much for the pictures!
Those are awesome looking machines. Look like they really mean business!
Sounds like you guys really had a great time!
Thanks for sharing the experence.
Brent


Post# 75169 , Reply# 11   7/25/2005 at 21:52 (6,821 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Amazing!

Jon,
I just watched the video!
These machines must be built like tanks!
I have never in my life seen a frontloader fill up that high for the last rinse, and then go right into the final spin while draining! That is awesome!
It is also cool to see that a washer this old have reverse tumble! This is such a cool machine!
How long is the final spin?
Also, does this company still make commercial front loaders? And if they do, is it still the same type of wash system cycle?
I would love to see one of these wash in person!
Thanks once again for the great video!
Brent


Post# 75170 , Reply# 12   7/25/2005 at 22:04 (6,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Jon,
Real Great video -
Thanks for sharing
Peter


Post# 75188 , Reply# 13   7/25/2005 at 23:20 (6,821 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Guys,

Wonderful machines! Thanks for posting! How long is the complete wash programme and how long is the pre-wash and main wash? About how fast was the final spin, and how long did it take to dry? Need pics of the dryers there too!


Post# 75197 , Reply# 14   7/26/2005 at 00:44 (6,821 days old) by shanonabc ()        

can not send e-mail but can recieve it at the moment. can you please send the video to shanonabc@hotmail.com

Post# 75199 , Reply# 15   7/26/2005 at 04:24 (6,821 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey all!
brent-i hadnt seen anything like that until i paid this place a visit! i love it. i think were goin back tommorrow:D The final spin is 700rpm for about 4 mins i think. they do still make commerical ones i dont know if they wash the same though.jon may no but im not sure. all in all the cycle was just over 30minutes! rapid or wot! & those deep rinses are somethin else! its crazy seein it take off with so much water in it!

bob-to the left of the machine is the progress dial so u no where ur at and the little dial is for the temp hot/warm/cold..then on the right theres a pilot light. amazing machines!

Darren


Post# 75200 , Reply# 16   7/26/2005 at 04:52 (6,820 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Guys

Welcome Darren, Looks like your whippin up a storm with those machines, look like they have seen lots of action, BUT plenty more life left in them!!!

How dry do the clothes feel after the 700 fling??do you use an extractor as well...and of course the dryers...

I can just imagine the reaction of all these "Dot Cottons" thinking what planet have we come from...oh to be a laundry repairman....

Nothing like a Russian laundry article I read where their vast tumbler machines are steam / presurized on the spin to force more water out...

I`ve posted a link to some machines here, the Keymatic is closer than you think??

Enjoy, Mike


CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK


Post# 75205 , Reply# 17   7/26/2005 at 07:17 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Guys:

I'm ecstatic you both met!

We gotta get Jon away from the computer screen and the TV (Still a telly there?) screen as much as possible.. LOL LOL LOL

BTW how many rinses are there on the Schulthess?

and thanks ever so much for sharing all with us.


regards,
-Steve


Post# 75219 , Reply# 18   7/26/2005 at 09:47 (6,820 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Jon, Thanks so much for the fun video. Those are fantastic machines, very splashy and fun. Just wonder what it cost over there to do a load? Looks like you guys had fun. Looking forward to seeing pictures of your Friday get-together. Terry

Post# 75223 , Reply# 19   7/26/2005 at 10:35 (6,820 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Jon and Darren,
Great wash in I wish I had been there. Love the spin drain now thats the way a front loader shoud distribute the load.
All the best.
Hugh


Post# 75225 , Reply# 20   7/26/2005 at 11:27 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Terry -

I thought they boys said that they spent 2.40 pounds. (pennies are pence there) The conversion rate is $1.74 per pound so that is about $4.18 per load.

Before you freak out Brits pay with their gross pay and taxes are taken out by way of a VAT (value added tax) when buying items.

We pay for things here with our net pay..


so $4.18 @ 65% = $2.71 in adjusted dollars.


Foreigners love our system because cash transactions are effectively not taxed. Over there you pay taxes (heavily) with every purchase. Same as Eurpoean continent.


Post# 75233 , Reply# 21   7/26/2005 at 12:22 (6,820 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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YAY for vintage launderette wash-ins. Great video! Those machines remind me of earlier Constructa machines, those filled very high in the rinses too.

Post# 75234 , Reply# 22   7/26/2005 at 12:27 (6,820 days old) by PeteK (Ontari ari ari O )        
I'm not sure about that

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The UK still income taxes as far as I know as well as the VAT sales tax. Don't forget that on top of US & Cdn income tax most states and provinces also have their own state/prov taxes on purchases with a few exceptions like Oregon, Alberta

Post# 75235 , Reply# 23   7/26/2005 at 12:37 (6,820 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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As far as I know all European countries have income taxes.

Post# 75238 , Reply# 24   7/26/2005 at 13:33 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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OOOPPPS I stand corrected.

Income AND VAT taxes.. Shoot me now...


Post# 75245 , Reply# 25   7/26/2005 at 16:53 (6,820 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Hey Everybody,
toggleswitch-number of rinses on the schuthless were 3! 3 damn high water level rinses! i'm going back tommorrow as is jon:D so if he's good & remember's his cam we will have more pix:D spiraclean-i agree totally i think other frontloaders should lead by example & distribute like that!

Mike!-love the gallerys! is tht ur keymatic!! i love them! would love to see one working! back to your question about the schulthess!- 700rpms plenty fine for me i quite like that speed. i didnt use a extractor or tumble dryer as most of my things cannot be tumbled so i took them home to hang instead:)

lol there was this one lady in there who was a bit puzzled by us lol.

Ciao all!

Darren


Post# 75263 , Reply# 26   7/26/2005 at 20:19 (6,820 days old) by The7 ()        

Grateful if you could tell me:
a) Is the door of this Schulthess machine hinged to the outer tub?
b) Is it hard-mounted without any internal suspension?


Post# 75266 , Reply# 27   7/26/2005 at 21:28 (6,820 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Thanks for taking the video...looks like you had fun!

Post# 75268 , Reply# 28   7/26/2005 at 21:42 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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QUOTES:

a) Is the door of this Schulthess machine hinged to the outer tub?

**would this be like an ASKO?

b) Is it hard-mounted without any internal suspension?

**Would this be like a WASCOMAT?



Post# 75347 , Reply# 29   7/27/2005 at 10:24 (6,819 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
YAY for videos!

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Great video you guys, I have never seen a front loader do a spin drain before.

Post# 75400 , Reply# 30   7/27/2005 at 16:33 (6,819 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi all, sorry I haven't posted in a while! I'll reply in the order of the posts :-)

Bob - actually (as Darren mentioned) the coloured dial is the programme status dial (unfortunately - probably due to vandalism - the prewash/spin portions have broke off so only the wash and rinse portions are visible), and the small grey dial is for water temperature (Hot/Warm/Cold).

Brent - the final spin lasts for about 5 minutes in total - with the first 2 minutes being at slow speed (which is the speed it spins out at - it looks to be around ~400rpm), and the last 3 minutes being at high speed (which is ~700rpm - very fast for a bolt down!). It was actually pretty common (as Louis mentioned) for older washers to fill very high in the final rinse, in fact there were also domestic FLs made by Philips (who were later bought by Whirlpool), which also sin-drained - unfortunately Whirlpool discontinued this when they took over the line :-(. Also, as far as I am aware, all European frontloaders have had reversing drum action in the wash from day 1 (in the early 1950s). Whenever your in England feel welcome to pop into Lincoln and Darren and I will gladly take you to the launderette :-). Schulthess are still making frontloaders to this very day - have included their link at the bottom of the page

Peter H - Now I bet you would kill to have these in your laundromats, no? LOL. The spin cycle is a two phase approach - ~400 slow/~700 fast, got the clothes pretty dry but I took stuff home to dry ont he line so didn't use the dryer (Darren and I are both very cautious about shrinkage and dry everything either on the line or the clotheshorse). The complete wash programme is about 28 minutes, pre-wash is about 4 I would guess and the main-wash is about 8. The rinses basically just fill 3/4 up the glasses and drain as soon as the water has stopped filling. Oh, BTW, if you look very closely in the washer glass in the first two pictures you can just make out 70s laundromat yellow SQ Loadstar dryers :-) - they have mechanical temperature selection and a quarter-turn coin meter.

Mike - fortunately Dot had left by the time we got there (it is only partially attended), but there was a woman and her daughter there giving us werid looks cos we were filming and that! They were gazing into their 30lb Ipso for most of the part though - you can actually hear the Ipso spin in the background halfway through the video somewhere :-). PS I love your Keymatic... but also still loving your Maytag Eurolines too :-p

Steve - don't confuse me with figures!!!! You know I'm crap with my maths LOL. As Darren said, the Schulthess did 3 really really really high level rinses - bloody good at rinsing too!!!

Terry - the Schulthess 15lb or so machines cost £2.40 to run; as do the Primus 16lb washers - whilst the 30lb Ipsos cost £4.40! The dryers are £0.20/4 mins. Anotherr launderette in the area (with all Ipsos) vends at £2.20 for 16lb, £2.80 for 25lb, £3.80 for 35lb, and £5 for 50lb, and £0.19/7 minutes.

Hugh - I totally agree with you - that is how every frontloader should rinse and spin :-).

Louis - It does indeed look like an old Cosntructa - I actually thought that when I first used them a few years ago.

The7 - as with every other commercial hardmount washer, the door is mounted to the cabinet and the machine is bolted down. No rubber boot etc - seal is around the door like on Asko machines.

Rich - we had LOADS!!!! of fun :-D. The launderette is goign to become a frequent haunt of mine and Darren's I fear LOL.

Robert - Thanks for the compliments! This is the only spin-draining frontloader I've seen - I must say it actually does remind me of the older solid-tub TL's :-).

Sharonabc (and all others who've requested by email) - my email server won't allow me to send files over 10MB (unfortunately the msot annoying thign is that the video file size is something like 10.1MB!!!). If any of you have messenger programmes, then perhaps I could send it over there? I have MSN, AIM an Yahoo...

Darren - well, what can I say!!! You sure have turned into a great laundry buddy LOL - today was good again! Shame I didn't have any charge on my camera (being the ditz I am I hadn't turned my camera off from when I uploaded Monday's photos to the computer), but will definitely have some on Friday - which will also hopefully contain a wash in the Primus :-).

Take care all!! More pics due on Friday :-)

Jon :-)


Post# 75401 , Reply# 31   7/27/2005 at 17:01 (6,819 days old) by hooverac216 ()        

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Post# 75417 , Reply# 32   7/27/2005 at 18:53 (6,819 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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jon!,
do u think if we broke the camaras in their & hired some strong burley men we could steal a schulthess each?! tehe. imagine if there was an extra rinse on one of those! that would be the best rinsing system period! well i already think it is! along with the spin drain...i wonder if i could find a philips that does that. only other machine that i can think of for the mega deep rinses was an old electrolux frontloader my mums friend had! *ponders* well my logic has pretty deep rinses..nothin compared to those schulthess machines.

next we can evaluate the primas! i doubt they can beat the schulthess's i love them! lets not forget our almost redundant machines at home lol!!

Darren


Post# 75524 , Reply# 33   7/28/2005 at 14:44 (6,818 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Woohoo!! Looks like ya'll had a great time!

Those Schulthess machines look like FUN...with the extremely high water levels and the spin-drain...never seen anything like it before! The highest water level I've seen on an FL was a Milnor, which filled a quarter of the way up the window.

Love the video!



Post# 75932 , Reply# 34   7/31/2005 at 22:21 (6,815 days old) by Catlover_ks ()        
Video was great

Jon, The video was absolutely fantastic !!! My daughter loved it also! Thanks for posting it!

CL (visiting from the "other" forum!!)



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