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Post# 425294   3/28/2010 at 11:00 (5,113 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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I got from John an under counter Duomatic that caught on FIRE so the lady ran!

Well I need a perfect Wiring Diagram to insure this doesn't happen again.
This is what was on the machine 1962? Duo.





Post# 425295 , Reply# 1   3/28/2010 at 11:01 (5,113 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
With the wonders of Illustrator

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and a few hours on the computer here is the wiring diagram

Post# 425299 , Reply# 2   3/28/2010 at 11:41 (5,113 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Cool!! I never knew there was an under-counter Duomatic, only the GE combo!!

Post# 425317 , Reply# 3   3/28/2010 at 13:48 (5,113 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

What a ditzy lady that was. She called John after one of the newspaper articles about our collection. The machine was in good condition at the end of the counter in the kitchen in one of those 1950s modern things built on a slab. It actually has a porcelain top with a soap door so it was was more counter high than undercounter, but with no backsplash. We had to do something with the pump and John asked her if she had a towel (to catch the cup or two of water that would be in it). She handed him a single paper towel. We should have known then that she did not know enough to run the machine and should have just removed it after telling her it could not be fixed, but NO, we had to try to be good guys. The machine was in very nice shape. Due to its compact design, the fill flume goes into the tub right behind the controls on the front. There is a timer and pushbuttons for hot or warm wash, 3 buttons for the dryer and the master OFF button. Well she went to wash clothes using good old Tide. The suds came up the fill flume and shorted out the controls buttons. So we were called back and hauled it away which we should have done while it was working. Of course, if we had stayed long enough to put clothes in it to wash, we could have warned her about detergent use, but we did not do that. Our bad.

The undercounter combo was made in both gas and electric, but the electric was no vent with no blower, just a stream of cold water to condense the steam and it took a very long time to dry. Near the end of production, the electric model was CE-7GO and the gas CG-7GO


Post# 425326 , Reply# 4   3/28/2010 at 14:43 (5,113 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thanks for the history Tom

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I have been going over the machine to see just what happened.

Indeed she must have shorted out the pushbuttons because those are the wires that are FRIED the most!
But in doing that she ended up pulling 220 through that OFF switch too which caused the metal contact on the timer box to melt off and so the contact and wire pulled off the box and engaged the Jumper wire which brought 220 through the water switch and other components!
So the upshot is she couldnt have turned the machine off if she wanted too. Ditz is right!
Never liked TIDE anyway!!!! Its for wringers ONLY!

The rest of the machine is in good shape. If it works again I am guessing it will dry like my GE combo since its set up that way. Broil-A-Dry.





Post# 425344 , Reply# 5   3/28/2010 at 16:45 (5,113 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
some people

as my daddy would have said...Could tear up an anvil!!!

Post# 425387 , Reply# 6   3/28/2010 at 21:28 (5,113 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Could tear up an anvil!

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I like that so true.

If it was rainin soup her bowl would be upside down!


Post# 425394 , Reply# 7   3/28/2010 at 22:03 (5,113 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Jon that is just wonderful, did you trace that in illustrator?

Post# 425460 , Reply# 8   3/29/2010 at 07:35 (5,113 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Jon, in spite of the fast spin, the Duomatics without the circulator took a very long time to dry. Some here may remember when Philco brought out the 27" combo, they offered a very inexpensive model that sold for about $100 less than other combos. It had a gray control panel with the washer timer on one side, a sliding switch for hot or warm wash, a sliding master ON-OFF switch and a dry timer on the other side of the control panel, basically the same controls of the earlier Duomatics. It was an electric model with the condensing dryer, again without the circulator. One of the testing mags tested it and it took a horribly long time to dry clothes. The long time Bendix dealers did not like what Philco did to the Duomatics.

Post# 425965 , Reply# 9   3/31/2010 at 20:51 (5,110 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Robert

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I drew it in on an upper layer. I don't have much luck with the trace tool. Its quirky.

Now I can rewire this baby.

Tom if the heating element is as strong as the one in my GE then it should take about the same amount of time to dry. Can't wait to see how they ruined the real Duo since I use them every day!


Post# 425968 , Reply# 10   3/31/2010 at 21:09 (5,110 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thank god you fixed my posting number

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64 wasn't doing it for me!! 2969 is much better!

Post# 425980 , Reply# 11   3/31/2010 at 22:01 (5,110 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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All that time spent, though admirably done, but I could have scanned you a copy in about a minute. I have the service manual, owners manual and some new buttons for you - ready to mail. Get that lab-coat on!

Post# 425984 , Reply# 12   3/31/2010 at 22:19 (5,110 days old) by DanManTN (Tennessee)        

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Gansky, what is your profile pic? Makes me think of my kindergarten class with all those primary colors. Are those Speed Queens in the back?

Post# 425986 , Reply# 13   3/31/2010 at 23:17 (5,110 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
I love it

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The Speed Queens are the only plain-white things in the room ;-)

Post# 426025 , Reply# 14   4/1/2010 at 07:24 (5,110 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Drying in the fire sale Duomatic

Jon, the drying temperature in Duomatics is much lower than in the GE combos, about 160F, like the 36" machines.

Post# 426210 , Reply# 15   4/1/2010 at 22:05 (5,109 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh GREG you are THE MAN!

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wow can't wait, I got the colored wiring yesterday and am planning my surgeries for next week. The fire must have come early as the interior looks very new, no rust.
Its a frame machine just like the very first gyramatic was so the panels all bolt on and off, should make it easy to service.

Tom thanks for the drying temps, I really like the way my Duos dry not fry the clothes so thats fine with me. It can tumble all day in the kitchen if it wants too.


Post# 426211 , Reply# 16   4/1/2010 at 22:09 (5,109 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
BTW Robert

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those glasses are just fabulous!


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