Thread Number: 27973
My Nan's Electrolux finally bit the dust
[Down to Last]

automaticwasher.org's exclusive eBay Watch:
scroll >>> for more items --- [As an eBay Partner, eBay may compensate automaticwasher.org if you make a purchase using any link to eBay on this page]
Post# 428261   4/12/2010 at 16:09 (5,121 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
some of you may remember a few months back about my nanny's electrolux being on its way out due to bad bearings....sadly after 4 consecutive washes on Saturday,

it gave up... on its final spin it sounded like a jet taking off sadly that was to be its (final) spin as it wheezed and grumbled i felt that was enough quite sad to see it that way after 9 years of use...the noise was unbelievable when it ramped up to 900 it was crystal clear in the garden with all doors and windows closed..it actually used to wake me up on a sunday morning haha...

it will still work but i think its gone beyond it now...although i might power it up for a spin one last time for u guys and upload it to you tube...if you'd like me to that is

anyway this saturday the new machine will be here. its a zanussi zwi1125.

here is some pics of the old and one of the new.





Post# 428262 , Reply# 1   4/12/2010 at 16:10 (5,121 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
and here's its replacement


Post# 428263 , Reply# 2   4/12/2010 at 16:12 (5,121 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
i think ill do a vid of it anyway just to show how loud it actually is plus come this saturday i wont be able to any more :(

Post# 428272 , Reply# 3   4/12/2010 at 18:19 (5,121 days old) by bertrum ()        

STOP STOP STOP!

Dont buy that new Zanussi, its rubbish in comparison to the old Zanussi (electrolux)!

The new machine has a welded tub! the electro-mechanical timer on the old zanussi is bloody reliable compared to the new all electronic machine.

Bearings on these are not a too bad job to do!


Post# 428479 , Reply# 4   4/13/2010 at 16:37 (5,120 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
ah the new machine is already bought and the old one is nackard... the bearings, spider and motor are all nackard in it...i know the new one isn't going to be early as reliable as the old one but its all done and dusted now...come saturday the new zanussi will be here..im going to do a vid of the electrolux on final spin one last time before it goes.

Post# 428481 , Reply# 5   4/13/2010 at 16:39 (5,120 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
funny you mention about the mechanical timer on the old one...that what im really going to miss( the silnt ticking as is went throught the wash) i love mechanical timer machines...seems everything is electronic now :(

Post# 428578 , Reply# 6   4/13/2010 at 22:40 (5,120 days old) by FL1012 ()        

Aw, shame to hear about the Electrolux machine's demise.

Am sure it could've been repaired back to its former glory though. Why not put it on eBay?

Not a personal critisism as most people seem to do this but i do wish we didn't live in such a throw-away society these days :(

At least ariston4life has obviously encouraged his gran to stick with the Electrolux Group *thumbs up* ;)


Post# 428950 , Reply# 7   4/15/2010 at 09:21 (5,118 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
ah yes..my nanny swears by elctrolux group... she's only ever had electrolux machines :) but yes shame about the old E-lux gonna miss it but im going to do a vid of it spining later....

Post# 428974 , Reply# 8   4/15/2010 at 11:02 (5,118 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

These machines aren't that bad... my sister has the freestanding version of this the ZWF12070 and shes had it for 2 years coming up now, solid use with a young toddler and despite an issue with the pump in the first couple months has been stellar. The 6kg machines are still based on the XC design so are pretty much tried and tested. A far better buy for £230 than any Indesit or Beko would have been.

The Elux models I'm not sure about though are the newer 7/8kg ones with plastic pulleys, makes you wonder what else they've skimped on, but the proof is in the pudding and it is early days yet with these newer high capacity versions. Saying that my auntie has a new integrated 1400rpm Electrolux, and it is indeed very quiet compared to her previous machine.

Jon


Post# 429083 , Reply# 9   4/15/2010 at 20:05 (5,118 days old) by FL1012 ()        

I think Bertrum was comparing the new Zanussi to the model it's replacing, which is likely to last longer if repaired than the new Zanussi.

I don't think the latest Zanussi's are that bad either. As a new machine people could do alot lot worse, but theyre never up there with the older ones, like the Electrolux photographed above.

As you know we also have a modern Zanussi, similar to your sisters. Ours being the Essential ZWF14170W. Its 2 & half years old & except for the temperature dial jamming & having to be pulled apart recently, its also going well.

However I disagree that theyre based on the XC machines. Im sure these later machines no longer have the split tub design of the XC - ours definately doesn't have the split cabinet side panels, which suggests to me a bearing replacement would be more labour intensive & in turn, more costly. And im sure they also use different (cheaper) electronics - the decent ones being one of the keys to long service in the XC range.

I thought Bertrum was an engineer too, so might no more about the inner workings of these machines than either of us!

Liam.


Post# 429116 , Reply# 10   4/15/2010 at 22:05 (5,118 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Liam,

As far as I'm aware (though admittedly this is second hand information from a conversation one of my friends had with their Zanussi engineer whilst having their 7kg Essential repaired), the 6kg machines still have the split cabinet drum assembly of the XC models, and still share the same parts whereas the higher capacity machines have the sealed drums, plastic drum pulleys etc. Of course I'd love to see a service diagram or similar as to whether this is true or not, but this is what I understand to be the case.

On balance, my friend who has the aforementioned Zanussi washer has had a couple of repairs so far, not to mention the Zanussi we had which broke within a month, but still not bad machines especially compared to others on the market at similar prices.

Jon


Post# 429159 , Reply# 11   4/16/2010 at 05:19 (5,117 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        

It's a sealed outer tub on model ZWI1125 I'm afraid. See link below.

Tom.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint9534's LINK


Post# 429162 , Reply# 12   4/16/2010 at 05:37 (5,117 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Aw :( sad to hear that... genuinely thought the case was otherwise with the 6kilo models. How about the ZWF12070? Would be interesting to see...

Thanks Tom,

Jon


Post# 429306 , Reply# 13   4/16/2010 at 15:50 (5,117 days old) by hotpoint9534 (UK)        
ZWF12070

Hi Jon,

ZWF12070 also has a sealed tub. £311.72 for a new tub assembly... ouch!

Tom.



CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint9534's LINK


Post# 429361 , Reply# 14   4/17/2010 at 07:11 (5,116 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

That's a disappointment then :( - I guess there must be some Service Force engineers out there who still don't know that!

Jon


Post# 429655 , Reply# 15   4/18/2010 at 14:07 (5,115 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

newwave1's profile picture
They have lessened quality slightly. Hasnt everyone? Even miele! *cough*. They said this with the XC machines because many failed with dodgy electronics after 2years. But there are many still alive and kicking 8-9years on. including my mums AEG based upon the same design! I'd quite like a Zan XC to add to the line up now i have my own garage.

My zanussi zwf12070G1 has given me no complaints. Washing for four of us. Now she resides on a parttime schedule in the garage with the rest of my collection while the LG takes the daily duty. Which is superb.

I had to wonder what was to be achieved by changing from the tried and tested unique to elux split cabinet design. It was very very good for access upon repairing. My wdt1085 washer dryer has this design and still has its repart of the cabinet removed while i contemplate a bearing replacement some months after i bought it!

Also i've aqquired a brand new beko from my dad as a gift that was intended for one of his rental propertys but hes sold the business and said i could have it.

Darren


Post# 429657 , Reply# 16   4/18/2010 at 14:07 (5,115 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

newwave1's profile picture
They have lessened quality slightly. Hasnt everyone? Even miele! *cough*. They said this with the XC machines because many failed with dodgy electronics after 2years. But there are many still alive and kicking 8-9years on. including my mums AEG based upon the same design! I'd quite like a Zan XC to add to the line up now i have my own garage.

My zanussi zwf12070G1 has given me no complaints. Washing for four of us. Now she resides on a parttime schedule in the garage with the rest of my collection while the LG takes the daily duty. Which is superb.

I had to wonder what was to be achieved by changing from the tried and tested unique to elux split cabinet design. It was very very good for access upon repairing. My wdt1085 washer dryer has this design and still has its repart of the cabinet removed while i contemplate a bearing replacement some months after i bought it!

Also i've aqquired a brand new beko from my dad as a gift that was intended for one of his rental propertys but hes sold the business and said i could have it.

Darren


Post# 429659 , Reply# 17   4/18/2010 at 14:36 (5,115 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi Darren,

Can agree with you there with the demise of quality on a whole across the industry - a lot of it being forced with the rising costs of fossil fuels, materials, haulage etc. A few years down the line after buying ours, whilst being a great washing machine, not quite sure the matching tumble dryer is as good as Miele claim - especially when it comes to trying to get customer service when something is wrong that they don't want to admit - but that's another story :). But definitely not as refined as the older models were as with anything.

I don't think my sisters Zanussi is a bad machine - definitely has it's work cut out and has had solid use for a couple years now - probably has a few more left in it yet.

Which Beko have you got? They're not bad machines for what you can pick them up for especially compared to the Haier stuff which is leaking it's way in.

Jon


Post# 429910 , Reply# 18   4/19/2010 at 12:36 (5,114 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
well the old e-lux is gone :( but the new zanussi is in :) i quite like it with the super quick option enabled on cottons 40 it reduces the wash time from 2 hours to about an hour..which is quite good... it does 5 rinses with extra rinse enabled...and is very very quiet.... i have done a vid of the E-lux spining before it was taken away ill upload it sometime this week as im maxed out with all the college work i have to do :(

Post# 429951 , Reply# 19   4/19/2010 at 14:42 (5,114 days old) by FL1012 ()        
New Zanussi

Sounds like the built in ones have the same programming as the latest freestanding Essentials - our Essential also cuts the cotton cycle from 2 hours to 1 hour with Super Quick selected. And does 5 rinses with Extra Rinse selected.

Be wary with extra rinse though - on ours, the rinse level without extra rinse is determined by the load - low absorbant stuff like bedding rinses at low level (water just reaches the drum rim) and towels rinse at a higher level (water reaches the door glass). However, if you press extra rinse, ALL rinses are at the lower level, regardless of the load type.

Therefore, if youre washing something like towels, it seems more effective to leave Extra Rinse off. I only use it on some low absorbancy loads now.


Post# 429960 , Reply# 20   4/19/2010 at 15:57 (5,114 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
i was using it on all the washes it did this weekend, on all but the last rinse it does low level rinses...on the last rinse it does a high level rinse... it did 9 washes on saturday cause of all the washing build up while the E-lux was broken...it a great machine no complaints so far...

Post# 429970 , Reply# 21   4/19/2010 at 16:38 (5,114 days old) by FL1012 ()        

Seems a tiny bit difference to ours.

On ours the final rinse is always marginally deeper because it fills, stops, tumbles once & then fills & tumbles at the same time to take the conditioner in once the water is already soaking the clothes. Whereas the rest of the time it fills with a static drum.

However, the final rinse is never significantly deeper. Youd struggle to notice without looking very carefully. It just alters to follow the depth of the other rinses, dependant on load (as per my details above).


Post# 430264 , Reply# 22   4/20/2010 at 20:13 (5,113 days old) by zanussi_lover (Nottingham, UK)        
MY XC IS STILL ALIVE!!

zanussi_lover's profile picture
8-9 years on and its still working :D

mind you we only do 2/3 washes a week in it now

when I was school we used to do loads of washing now its just my mum and my dad now as i'm at uni in manchester


Post# 794511 , Reply# 23   11/17/2014 at 17:00 (3,441 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        
Reviving a Dead Thread.... Zanussi Is Knackard

ariston4life's profile picture
Well the Zanussi is almost ready to give up, 4 Years later and the Bearings are shot. the noise of it on saturday was unbelievable, i was shocked to turn the drum and hear the horrid rumble couldnt believe a machine this young would be having bearing failure especially seen as its only used about 3 times a week.

shows how the Zanussi Quality has really gone down the drain.

Looking around at new machines to replace it, has anyone got any suggestions, something costing no more than 500.


Post# 794513 , Reply# 24   11/17/2014 at 17:06 (3,441 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
Ive been looking at the following machines as a replacment, not sure which to go for.

Indesit - IWME147

Hotpoint - BHWM129/2

Candy - CWB814DN

Whirlpool - AWOC7714

Can anyone help me choose between the above models?


  Photos...       <              >      Photo 1 of 4         View Full Size
Post# 794633 , Reply# 25   11/18/2014 at 05:08 (3,440 days old) by BoschExxcel ()        

Hi, I have a Whielpool AWO/C 7714 and its a brilliant machine! Search my username in YouTube and some videos should come up. :)

If you have any questions I'll do my best to answer. :)


Post# 794634 , Reply# 26   11/18/2014 at 05:10 (3,440 days old) by BoschExxcel ()        

Oh btw, that Whirlpool in the picture is not the 7714. It's the 0714 which is very similar but the 7714 is slightly updated with a few more programmes and the Colours 15 option,

Post# 794717 , Reply# 27   11/18/2014 at 14:10 (3,440 days old) by ariston4life ((Dublin) Ireland)        

ariston4life's profile picture
I was in store today looking at some machines and ive narrowed it down to these two.

Indesit - IWME147 (pictured is the IWME146...147 just has 7KG drum and woolmark platinum care wash)

Whirlpool - AWO/C 0714

Both machines feel well built and ive hear some horror storys about some whirlpool machines lately so not to sure... The Indesit machines seem to be ok..havmt hear anyone complaine about them so im not too sure which one to go for.



  Photos...       <              >      Photo 1 of 2         View Full Size
Post# 794726 , Reply# 28   11/18/2014 at 15:01 (3,440 days old) by BoschExxcel ()        

You always get bad reviews with all machines. Look on AO.com. The Whirlpool is £299 with 22 reviews. Lowest score is 4 out of 5. Shows people like theirs! How long it will last I don't know, but it is a fraction of the cost of a Miele!

The 6th Sense is brilliant, I love how it senses before the wash starts. It's got plenty of programmes and options and I think it's quite quiet too. Read my review on AO, it's at the top. Coming from a fellow washer fan with knowledge about machines I hope that helps!



Post# 794727 , Reply# 29   11/18/2014 at 15:03 (3,440 days old) by BoschExxcel ()        

Link;

ao.com/product/AWOC7714-Whirlpool...

There is also a cheaper machine available;

ao.com/product/AWOD060-Whirlpool-...



Forum Index:       Other Forums:                      



Comes to the Rescue!

The Discuss-o-Mat has stopped, buzzer is sounding!!!
If you would like to reply to this thread please log-in...

Discuss-O-MAT Log-In



New Members
Click Here To Sign Up.



                     


automaticwasher.org home
Discuss-o-Mat Forums
Vintage Brochures, Service and Owners Manuals
Fun Vintage Washer Ephemera
See It Wash!
Video Downloads
Audio Downloads
Picture of the Day
Patent of the Day
Photos of our Collections
The Old Aberdeen Farm
Vintage Service Manuals
Vintage washer/dryer/dishwasher to sell?
Technical/service questions?
Looking for Parts?
Website related questions?
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Policy
Our Privacy Policy