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Post# 430862   4/24/2010 at 21:17 (5,107 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 430863 , Reply# 1   4/24/2010 at 21:18 (5,107 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 430864 , Reply# 2   4/24/2010 at 21:24 (5,107 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 430865 , Reply# 3   4/24/2010 at 21:28 (5,107 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 430873 , Reply# 4   4/24/2010 at 22:28 (5,107 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 430981 , Reply# 5   4/25/2010 at 07:31 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431000 , Reply# 6   4/25/2010 at 08:27 (5,106 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Looks like suds to me.....
...and I don't mind how many people try to convert me to a liquid detergent, it isn't going to happen... I've yet to see any report of a liquid (in this country or the UK) clean as well or better than its equivalent powder... ...and they never seem to get the antifoam right in them either... |
Post# 431027 , Reply# 8   4/25/2010 at 10:13 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431031 , Reply# 10   4/25/2010 at 10:35 (5,106 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)   |   | |
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Post# 431035 , Reply# 11   4/25/2010 at 11:15 (5,106 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 431056 , Reply# 12   4/25/2010 at 13:04 (5,106 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Not even close guys....the water we have here in the Metro Boston area is considered naturally soft. The Tide HE liquids will suds up like that no matter how much you dose it. I tried the Tide HE with bleach alternative and its a disaster. I am with Jon on this one. And even if the washer was full it would still have suds.
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Post# 431057 , Reply# 13   4/25/2010 at 13:07 (5,106 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 431060 , Reply# 14   4/25/2010 at 13:40 (5,106 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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I'm in big trouble now!!! Mr. Nunn, where are you???? |
Post# 431061 , Reply# 15   4/25/2010 at 13:46 (5,106 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 431066 , Reply# 16   4/25/2010 at 14:05 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431067 , Reply# 17   4/25/2010 at 14:07 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431068 , Reply# 18   4/25/2010 at 14:14 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431071 , Reply# 19   4/25/2010 at 14:20 (5,106 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 431076 , Reply# 20   4/25/2010 at 14:41 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431086 , Reply# 21   4/25/2010 at 15:47 (5,106 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 431093 , Reply# 22   4/25/2010 at 16:51 (5,106 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)   |   | |
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Post# 431109 , Reply# 23   4/25/2010 at 18:09 (5,106 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever......... use the recommended dosage of any Tide "HE" or otherwise detergent, especially the liquid versions, and especially in front loaders. The stuff will create suds and froth like you won't believe and is darn near impossible to rinse away without serious intervention.
Ages ago when we purchased our first front loader, P&G had just launched Tide "HE" and we received a sample packet. Well did as the packet stated (am a idiot, aren't I?), and added the entire contents of the powder to the wash load, only to have a "Bobby Brady" moment in a matter of minutes. There was so much froth it was coming out the detergent dispenser drawer and trying to push out the door seals. After stopping the machine and resetting to rinses several times failed to arrest the foaming, contacted our local repairman, he suggested adding a good dose of cooking oil to cut the foam. The suggestion worked a treat and soon as the washer was cleared out swore off Tide period, and went out to purchase Persil. Being as all this may, Tide is the only "HE" detergent that has a totally unscented version, now that some damn fool at Henkel thought it would be a bright idea to add scent to the previously scent free "Persil Sensitive". So every now and then, thanks to coupons for a "free" container of Tide from P&G will get jug of the liquid, but use no more than 1 tablespoon, period. Remember the liquids by now all are "2X", so a little dab will do. As for the OP's original post, see that situation all the time at local laundromat. Not just with Tide but any detergent liquid. Persons pour capsfull into the machine as it goes into the pre-wash, then add more to the dispenser for the "wash". However since all liquids simply run down the dispenser the lot is flushed into the pre-wash which causes tons of froth. Does this stop them from adding more? No it does not, for many will eye that the detergent is "gone" from the "wash" portion of the dispenser and add more as the machine fills for that cycle. It is quite common to see these commercial laundromat washers choked with froth spilling out from the door seals and detergent dispenser. Worse even after three or for rinses the machines are sitll full of suds. Have seen persons take said froth filled laundry out of the machine when the cycle is over and you can see froth still oozing up from the sump into the drums. To add insult to injury said saop filled laundry is now dumped into those high heat laundromat dryers to bake until golden brown. |
Post# 431110 , Reply# 24   4/25/2010 at 18:16 (5,106 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 431149 , Reply# 25   4/25/2010 at 21:15 (5,106 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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That was so fun. I don't know how you do it but you just seem to keep making it better and better!! Terry |
Post# 431151 , Reply# 26   4/25/2010 at 21:24 (5,106 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 431153 , Reply# 27   4/25/2010 at 21:33 (5,106 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Are mainly of four types:
Animal Tallow/Fat (oil) based Soybean oil based (so called "green" fabric softeners Silicone Based Quat and or surfactant based Any oil will kill suds, hence the old housewives trick of sprinkling a pure soap on top of excess detergent suds (soap is made from fats and oils), so in theory fabric softener made from any of the first three will do the trick. However many fabric softeners contain additives and sometimes to get where one needs to be in anti-foaming, requires a bit more FS than one would like. Pure oil or silicone (sold as anti-foaming agents for carpet cleaning and other commercial uses), will get the job done with less product and best of all the suds once killed, stay dead. Silicone is the most common agent next to soap added to detergents to keep down sudsing. |
Post# 431156 , Reply# 28   4/25/2010 at 21:37 (5,106 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 431162 , Reply# 29   4/25/2010 at 21:49 (5,106 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 431164 , Reply# 30   4/25/2010 at 21:51 (5,106 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 431261 , Reply# 32   4/26/2010 at 04:12 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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for coming to the rescue here! The Tide Liquid Cult "TLC" here is obviously defiant and unrepentant!
Laundress never made the connection between fats and suds kill but always knew never to rinse the dishes as the fats keep suds down and protect the machine too. Yet original DASH used HYFAC451 which was hydrogenated fish oil as its "low suds miracle"! |
Post# 431263 , Reply# 33   4/26/2010 at 04:21 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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have loved to seen your mattress experience first hand!! I once did that in a pinch with Dawn in the GE bowtie dishwasher, when I ran out of Cascade. Man that upper grill across the machine front just spewed suds all across the kitchen floor! I only used a drop too. And when I rolled out the cabinet the entire tub was suds,I had to scoop them out!
Darren, I really like your new avatar, lonely boy at laundromat! |
Post# 431264 , Reply# 34   4/26/2010 at 04:22 (5,106 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431265 , Reply# 35   4/26/2010 at 04:34 (5,105 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Silicones, oils, glycols, fatty acids,mineral oil, and other "oils" have a low surface tension which allows them to spread easily, especially over liquids (ever seen an oil slick on water?). Oils and silicones also can get between (for lack of a better phrase), the surfactant causing foam thus disrupting their building blocks, and down comes the froth.
If you look at the label on packets of those "anti-gas" tablets, they contain a type of silicone. Once ingested the stuff goes to work breaking up the bubbles forming the "gas" discomfort. Yes, this is why when washing dishes and the water is too oil or grease filled, there won't be any suds. That is a signal it is time to dump and replace dish water with a fresh batch. |
Post# 431272 , Reply# 36   4/26/2010 at 07:29 (5,105 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Quote: Yes, used plain ole Crisco, as one wasn't about to use my very expensive imported olive oil! *LOL*
Outside of the kitchen, pantry and home store-room I get nervous when I see Crisco in other rooms! LOL Jon, dear admit it; you dosed it twice by accident. Just a function of our advancing age. Nothing to be ashamed of........... (ducks and runs!) ooooh I'm going to get slapped into next week! |
Post# 431277 , Reply# 37   4/26/2010 at 07:59 (5,105 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431299 , Reply# 39   4/26/2010 at 10:45 (5,105 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 431305 , Reply# 40   4/26/2010 at 11:04 (5,105 days old) by Favorit ()   |   | |
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...she would tell you it with Debbie's voice : |
Post# 431348 , Reply# 41   4/26/2010 at 14:13 (5,105 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Why do I hear that "SLAP" when I open this thread? Does that mean I am getting slapped? Sounds like a bitch slap to me! |
Post# 431368 , Reply# 42   4/26/2010 at 15:55 (5,105 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 431780 , Reply# 43   4/28/2010 at 20:07 (5,103 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 431838 , Reply# 44   4/29/2010 at 07:13 (5,102 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 431839 , Reply# 45   4/29/2010 at 07:15 (5,102 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 431842 , Reply# 46   4/29/2010 at 07:27 (5,102 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 431863 , Reply# 47   4/29/2010 at 08:53 (5,102 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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Thanks for posting the video Greg. That is exactly the results that I get with liquid tide HE. I did four load yesterday with no sudsing issues. |
Post# 432269 , Reply# 48   5/1/2010 at 09:41 (5,100 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 432272 , Reply# 49   5/1/2010 at 09:48 (5,100 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 432449 , Reply# 50   5/2/2010 at 08:57 (5,099 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 434729 , Reply# 51   5/11/2010 at 21:24 (5,090 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 434894 , Reply# 52   5/12/2010 at 14:25 (5,089 days old) by mielabor ()   |   | |
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A few drops of silicone emulsion will remedy any sudsing problem... " /> |
Post# 434943 , Reply# 53   5/12/2010 at 19:38 (5,089 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 434999 , Reply# 54   5/12/2010 at 23:54 (5,089 days old) by JeffG ()   |   | |
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>...he suggested adding a good dose of cooking oil to cut the foam. A few capfuls of fabric softener will do the same thing, and not subject your plumbing and septic/sewer to an oil buildup. |
Post# 437542 , Reply# 55   5/26/2010 at 08:05 (5,075 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 437613 , Reply# 56   5/26/2010 at 13:53 (5,075 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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Oh Jon, no we weren't avoiding it we were just waiting for you to bring it up! Running fast!!!! |
Post# 437740 , Reply# 57   5/26/2010 at 23:57 (5,075 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 442290 , Reply# 58   6/16/2010 at 20:29 (5,054 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 442308 , Reply# 59   6/16/2010 at 21:17 (5,054 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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Jon you know that liquid Tide HE and Dawn are both the very same color, now it is just possible that you have them mixed up.!!! I feel another slap coming!!! |
Post# 442775 , Reply# 60   6/18/2010 at 22:35 (5,052 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)   |   | |
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I did have a customer who once got the box of Miracle Grow and Tide confused. She thought the washer was broken because everything was coming out blue.
This very thing could have happened to Jon. I understand how easy it would be to get the Dawn and Tide HE confused with all the excitement of getting a new washer. I have a feeling Customer #59 is going to be very unhappy.... |
Post# 444713 , Reply# 61   6/26/2010 at 14:20 (5,044 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 444814 , Reply# 62   6/26/2010 at 21:29 (5,044 days old) by tlee618 ()   |   | |
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I feel another "slap" coming for sure!!!! |
Post# 444842 , Reply# 64   6/27/2010 at 01:49 (5,044 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)   |   | |
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Post# 444855 , Reply# 65   6/27/2010 at 03:36 (5,044 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 444859 , Reply# 66   6/27/2010 at 05:13 (5,043 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 445453 , Reply# 67   6/29/2010 at 08:17 (5,041 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 445829 , Reply# 68   6/30/2010 at 12:10 (5,040 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 445956 , Reply# 69   6/30/2010 at 22:30 (5,040 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I normaly use Gain with Bleach. Liquid or powder and measure 1/4 capful of it in the dispenser. It never reaches the point of not being able to open the door and having a wave of excess suds billow onto the floor.I have had some oversudsing issues when I do a smaller load or the wash I put in isn't real dirty. The affinities have a nice oversuds pipe that keeps the excess suds from going on the floor.They just go through this pipe into the drain hose and down the drain.I was realy surprised to find that out because every other front loader I've had,except the L.Gs,has had that oversudsing on to the floor issue.I am still real sattisfied with these Affinities.
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