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Thread Number: 28182
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Post# 431069 , Reply# 1 4/25/2010 at 14:16 (5,113 days old) by DADoES  (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 LOVE this pair! My all-time favorite Whirlys!! No drain is likely a pump problem. Or, I've seen the wig-wag pin for the agitate solenoid break, in which case it doesn't shift out of agitation, which also prevents drain (the pump's flapper valve that switches it between drain and recirculate for filtering during agitation is linked to the agitation cam bar). That can be observed by noting if it's agitating when the timer is set to a spin position. | ||
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Post# 431072 , Reply# 2 4/25/2010 at 14:23 (5,113 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 431082 , Reply# 4 4/25/2010 at 15:29 (5,113 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Replacing a pump is not difficult. The leaking issue may be related to the pump, or something different. Another consideration, the belt may be worn if it has never been replaced. Any established appliance service should be able to do the job. Tell them you have a belt-drive Whirlpool toploader. These were last produced in 1987 -- belt-drive machines in general, not your specific model. Your machines are circa 1975-1976 as you thought. The top-of-line models for that year, the last ones with a fluorescent lighted console. Your dryer is the last one that was offered with a choice of tumble speeds. The previous series LAA had three tumble speeds, and three agitate speeds on the washer. The next series LFA after yours (shown below) had an electronic panel on the washer and full-panel mechanical pushbuttons on the dryer. (the picture has been Photoshopped, they weren't available in that color) 
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Post# 431084 , Reply# 5 4/25/2010 at 15:45 (5,113 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 431108 , Reply# 6 4/25/2010 at 18:05 (5,113 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 431111 , Reply# 7 4/25/2010 at 18:25 (5,113 days old) by GEExtraRinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
I'm in Los Angeles! | ||
| Post# 431116 , Reply# 8 4/25/2010 at 18:37 (5,113 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 431131 , Reply# 9 4/25/2010 at 19:50 (5,113 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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Georgeous set. Yes, fixing them is the way to go, as you will not find anything today with the quality or the aesthetic beauty of the classics you have there. Good luck, James | ||
| Post# 431150 , Reply# 11 4/25/2010 at 21:21 (5,113 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland) | ||
It most likely needs a belt and pump. I would suggest that either an appliance repair company or someone who has done a belt change on a Wpl/Ken perform the operation.
If you go with an appliance repair company try to go after someone who has been in business for a while. Younger techs will look at that machine and tell you to toss it. And they probably won't know how to change the belt anyway. | ||
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Post# 431188 , Reply# 12 4/25/2010 at 23:25 (5,113 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Hey Lovepuppy | ||
| Post# 431259 , Reply# 14 4/26/2010 at 03:42 (5,113 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.) | ||
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@ Kenmore 81 I agree and co-sign with everything you said here. But I sure like to see Gordon's reaction when he sees how beautiful this set is??? And more than likely, he's going to lean toward repairing them as well. --Charles-- | ||
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Post# 431288 , Reply# 15 4/26/2010 at 10:00 (5,113 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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This was a very special washer because, I believe, it was the first time WP allowed independent agitate and spin speed selections. They were usually built into the timer and controlled by the cycle selected. | ||
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Post# 431317 , Reply# 17 4/26/2010 at 12:09 (5,112 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 431319 , Reply# 18 4/26/2010 at 12:16 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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here's the inside 
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| Post# 431320 , Reply# 19 4/26/2010 at 12:17 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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here's the panel 
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| Post# 431321 , Reply# 20 4/26/2010 at 12:23 (5,112 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.) | ||
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1974-76 Whirlpool Imperial Mark 18 Washer...... @ lovepuppy..... Oh!!!! This is a Two-Speed Washer..... I thought that this was a Three-Speed like the other TOL Whirlys before it. Still a nice machine as the same..... I hope you can get it repaired. You got to save THIS gem!!!! --Charles-- | ||
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Post# 431323 , Reply# 21 4/26/2010 at 12:30 (5,112 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Charles, this was the last belt-drive model offered with this flexible control arrangement, and the dryer with multiple tumble speeds. Whirlpool dropped back to two tumble and two agitate speeds on this model LDA-9800 and LDE-9800. Previous models had three tumble and agitate speeds. The next year's LFA-9800 was the first electronic control model, and also brought in the Double-Duty "winged" Surgilator. | ||
| Post# 431325 , Reply# 22 4/26/2010 at 12:42 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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How do you all KNOW all this stuff? So cool... | ||
| Post# 431329 , Reply# 23 4/26/2010 at 13:13 (5,112 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
nice | ||
| Post# 431330 , Reply# 24 4/26/2010 at 13:16 (5,112 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida) | ||
I am speaking for myself here...You know how some people go nuts over cars and want a vintage car? Its the same for us that love appliances. I always thought I was the only one that loved appliances and always thought I was an oddball. Until I found this great group then I realized that I wasnt alone. Love that set that you have. Get them fixed if you can since the new stuff wont last as long as these have.
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Post# 431332 , Reply# 25 4/26/2010 at 13:26 (5,112 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 431344 , Reply# 26 4/26/2010 at 14:05 (5,112 days old) by chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.) | ||
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@ DADoES..... So then..... was this the machine that you had replaced your 1961 Whirly with???? You grew up with THIS exact machine??? Or was this the TOL Whirly??? --Charles-- | ||
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Post# 431351 , Reply# 27 4/26/2010 at 14:25 (5,112 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Charles, my parents had an LJA-3200 bought in January 1962, and LME-4600 dryer was bought a little later. It was replaced in June 1976 with an LDA-7800 (Supreme 80). Oh, I wanted a 9800 in the worse way! The matching LDE-7800 dryer replaced the 4600 a year later (NOS that I found at the local Whirlpool dealer, the LFA series had already come out). Then the 7800 set was replaced in 1994 with a KitchenAid KAWE/KEYE-670 pair that they still have. | ||
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Post# 431373 , Reply# 29 4/26/2010 at 16:14 (5,112 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Don't worry lovepuppy (can I use your real name?) not everyone remodeling their kitchen knows if the "old" appliances removed have any value to others. Frankly some don't even care "It's old, no one's going to want it, just put it in the dumpster". Besides, as much as a lot of us here would love to save every old appliance out there, the reality is you can't save them all. Dadoes: Yes the green WP washer in the photo you posted is a 1968. I know because it's mine. YAY! Kevin | ||
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Post# 431377 , Reply# 30 4/26/2010 at 17:00 (5,112 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Lovepuppy and Kevin -
I know that Charles was looking for my reply sooner than now, but I've been traveling this weekend and been getting myself back in gear here. So, first, YES, what a great looking set, via phone pic or not. They look great. Personally, I love these machines, and have been having my laundry washed by one model or another similar my entire life. I would not want anything else to be honest, I simply truly enjoy them. As to this machine, my first thought would be to say the pump for sure is probably bad, and the belt. These are not bad or expensive items to replace just due strictly to age. However, there are other things that could be causing a leak and a no or slow-drain condition. Kenmore81 is right in that the outlet hose to the manifold trap could be leaking. This is far more common on large capacity machines like yours than standard tup models which have a different outlet hose which seats better. You could also have a leaking lint filter. If it is clogged and/or cracked, this could be your culprit. There is a variety of good news with all this as the pump and belt are still out there available from Whirlpool. The outlet hose is not, but they can be found and I know Kevin has one as I directed him to buy one or two recently. Ok....I almost insisted. The lint filter might be a tough beast (probably NLA), but I saw one on ebay last weekend. These were used by Whirpool only as Kenmore had their own design they liked. Whirlpool's filter is molded as part of the manifold trap, and sometimes shakes loose and makes the outlet hose leak. If this were my machine and I wanted it to live on a good while yet, I would pull the tub and replace the centerpost grommet (Kevin is familiar) and the tub outlet hose. At the same time, I'd change the belt and the pump. I know Kevin has changed pumps, but a belt too? This can be a bit of work, but there are folks, including me and Kevin, who'll help. It wouldn't be the first time I was on the phone with Kevin doing mobile washer repair consultations :-) GOOD luck! Gordon | ||
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Post# 431403 , Reply# 31 4/26/2010 at 19:17 (5,112 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 431443 , Reply# 32 4/26/2010 at 21:44 (5,112 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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That is a great shot of the set, and the laundry room too. It looks just like something out of a very familiar television show. The only things missing are Bobby Brady, and the suds. Have a good one, James | ||
| Post# 431456 , Reply# 34 4/26/2010 at 22:37 (5,112 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Very nice pair and very nice find! So many memories flood my mind from this pair! Congratulations! Brent | ||
| Post# 431457 , Reply# 35 4/26/2010 at 22:37 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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There IS a service # -- wonder if it's still in service? I'll call it tomorrow just for kicks -- hopefully I will not be re-routed to a prison or to a telemarketing company... 
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| Post# 431458 , Reply# 36 4/26/2010 at 22:39 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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Warning sticker on top... As if I would ever dream of it....(cough cough) 
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| Post# 431459 , Reply# 37 4/26/2010 at 22:42 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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Here's the serial # panel May as well be sanskrit to me... Well, hope you enjoyed the pics. Oh -- my name is Natalie. My puppy got spayed this morning so that's why "lovepuppy" popped in my head for a user name. You guys are great! 
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Post# 431462 , Reply# 38 4/26/2010 at 23:01 (5,112 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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That pic above of the pair is fabulous! My new desktop wallpaper. :-D If I may be so bold as to request: - a side-angle shot of the dryer panel oriented from the timer, as you did of the washer - straight-on shots of the timers and of the auxiliary controls (each half of the console) - dryer interior | ||
| Post# 431475 , Reply# 39 4/27/2010 at 00:12 (5,112 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland) | ||
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| Post# 431484 , Reply# 40 4/27/2010 at 00:58 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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For DADo a side-angle shot of the dryer panel oriented from the timer 
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| Post# 431486 , Reply# 41 4/27/2010 at 01:01 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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I turned off the flash for the next four to reduce glare... Dryer left 1/2 panel 
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| Post# 431487 , Reply# 42 4/27/2010 at 01:02 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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No flash #2 Dryer right 1/2 panel... 
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| Post# 431488 , Reply# 43 4/27/2010 at 01:03 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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No flash #3 Washer left 1/2 panel 
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| Post# 431489 , Reply# 44 4/27/2010 at 01:04 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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No flash #4 Washer right 1/2 panel 
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| Post# 431491 , Reply# 45 4/27/2010 at 01:07 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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Dryer -- inside I was going to put the puppy inside for this shot but didn't feel like dealing with the PETA folks... LOL @ "appliance porn." I'm an attorney and as far as I know it's totally protected by the 1st amendment, LOL. 
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| Post# 431492 , Reply# 46 4/27/2010 at 01:08 (5,112 days old) by lovepuppy () | ||
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Dryer -- inside #2 Hope I did the thing justice; I couldn't get the lighting right... 
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Post# 431494 , Reply# 47 4/27/2010 at 01:55 (5,112 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Appliance porn indeed! They really are pristine, looks to be no wear or scuffing on the dryer drum. I always liked the color shading around the buttons on this set. Bob/Appnut, here's a Whirly dryer with Wrinkle Guard aka Finish Guard. Notice the extended Cool Down section at end of the Autodry cycle. I don't recall now if it runs a full 2-1/2 hrs (with a pulse-delay on the timer), the feature sticker doesn't say. | ||
| Post# 431495 , Reply# 48 4/27/2010 at 02:00 (5,112 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
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| Post# 431496 , Reply# 49 4/27/2010 at 02:06 (5,112 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington) | ||
WOW! | ||
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Post# 431516 , Reply# 50 4/27/2010 at 07:14 (5,112 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP MARK 18 WASHER & DRYER
Thats a wonderful W&D pair you have I have been an authorized WP sales & service person for over 35 years I remember selling that model W&D pair. They have been lightly used over the years and I would try to keep them repaired and working for more years to come. I would not let a big factory service Co. work on these they will just condemn them. You need find a good independent service Co. who has been in business a good while who is willing to work on an older W&D, you may have Angies List in your area also look on the internet for your community list service to see who your neighbors are happy with. I had forgotten till saw the model # plate of your dryer but this was the last WP gas dryer to have the dual BTU gas burner it fires at 30,000 BTUs at the high heat setting making it one of the fastest clothes dryers ever made. The two speed tumble is also a very unique and useful feature to aid drying speed and reduce balling of sheets etc.I would never get rid of this dryer many of working parts of this dryer are the same as the dryers that WP is still using on thier current machines { motor ,belt ,rear drum rollers] a good repair person should be able to keep this going for decades. Email me if you need any pacific help with keeping them going. John.
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Post# 431519 , Reply# 51 4/27/2010 at 07:33 (5,112 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Hey John, I'm not far away from her..... GEExtraRinse and I are going over there Sunday morning to take a look at them and see what we can do to repair them, so no big service company here! On the "two speed dryer"... I will have to check these out, but on my 1968 WP Imperial Mark 12 set, the "speeds" on the dryer ONLY changes the airflow through the dryer, not the tumble speed. Kevin | ||
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Post# 431522 , Reply# 52 4/27/2010 at 07:48 (5,112 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP MARK 18 WASHER & DRYER | ||
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Post# 431548 , Reply# 53 4/27/2010 at 10:29 (5,111 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass) |
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I would bring a pump and a belt with you. Prolly a 350365 pump and 95405 belt. Also could be the skinny "quiet pak" belt (96388). | ||
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Post# 431553 , Reply# 54 4/27/2010 at 10:52 (5,111 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Appliance brochure pretty
Those 'pools are spiffy. I really love that "finished" laundry room; I want to have one myself one day. I mean where the appliances are well integrated with cabinets and counters and even the water faucets are built in and have their own customized handles. Interesting that it doesn't even require the old "flush installation" feature on the machines to look good.
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Post# 431566 , Reply# 55 4/27/2010 at 11:37 (5,111 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Two-speed drying when Whirlpool first introduced it in the 1960s affected airflow (by shifting the blower belt on a two-stage pulley, and then later an air damper when the blower went to direct-drive) and heat input, not tumbling. Multiple tumble speeds came into play I think from 1972 (LX_) to 1976/77 (LD_) by shifting the drum belt on a cylindrical tapered pulley. As I mentioned earlier, it was initially three speeds. The LDA series dropped to two speeds, then the feature was eliminated. It also wasn't always restricted to the TOL model. This Imperial 80 is likely circa 1972 or 1973. 
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| Post# 431589 , Reply# 56 4/27/2010 at 14:02 (5,111 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA) | ||
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Beautiful Whirly set! Keep that set Lovepuppy - you won't regret it! | ||
| Post# 431592 , Reply# 57 4/27/2010 at 14:52 (5,111 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
overhaul
I would go as far as to replace not only the pump and belt but the tub seal as well.I would also completely clean out the outer tub of any soap scum and lint deposits.I'd also replace the inlet hoses. Once the unit is ready,I would run a full cycle using straight Clorox Bleach and a full tub of hot water.Bar keeper's Friend works great on the porcelain and painted surfaces to get all the dirt and grime.Windex is great for all the dials,chrome buttons and control panel backgrounds.Great set!!
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| Post# 431632 , Reply# 59 4/27/2010 at 21:15 (5,111 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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if you noticed the lights dim a bit when the washer buzzed but failed to run on high speed,there might be a problem with the motor-starting switch problems,a bad connection,etc. even if the motor is bad(very,very rare)they are very easy to obtain and replace with very wide year coverage. | ||
| Post# 431644 , Reply# 60 4/27/2010 at 22:20 (5,111 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.) | ||
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Madge and Harold.......good names for them. Love it. | ||
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Post# 431649 , Reply# 61 4/27/2010 at 22:38 (5,111 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Extra nice That is an absolutely beautiful Whirlpool set. I remember seeing these on the sales floor at Swallen's on US 50. They were Cincinnati's largest Whirlpool dealer - I'm sure Pete (Rollermatic) will remember that store. It's been out of business about 14 years now. Hope the washer won't be too much problem to fix. | ||
| Post# 431662 , Reply# 62 4/27/2010 at 23:44 (5,111 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york) | ||
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That is a beautiful Whirlpool IMPERIAL MARK 18 set...videos please!!! | ||
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Post# 431687 , Reply# 63 4/28/2010 at 07:45 (5,111 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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CLEANING UP WASHERS | ||
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Post# 431691 , Reply# 64 4/28/2010 at 08:45 (5,111 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Whirlpool! | ||
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Post# 431700 , Reply# 66 4/28/2010 at 10:08 (5,111 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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I think we'll have that washer up and running soon. Kevin is a smart, mechanically minded guy and what he isn't able to do on his own we can help him get done I'm sure!
As to the dryer, I can't get over the mint shape of the drum. It sure looks unused! My mom's 1983 Kenmore dryer and my 1978 Kenmore dryer have a lot of finish worn off, expecially on the rear bulkhead. Just look at that one - it's perfect! My '78 model is so well used that on the lower left, there is almost no paint. I should photograph that and show it here for comparison. Have a good day everyone! Gordon | ||
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Post# 431732 , Reply# 67 4/28/2010 at 14:22 (5,110 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon) |
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Natalie... You are so lucky to have this beautiful Whirlpool set. Definitely top of the line for it's time and it is so rare to find a set of this age so well taken care of. I'm sure Kevin and Matthew will have them running like new again after their visit. Best of luck and welcome to the vintage appliance appreciation community!
Patrick | ||
| Post# 431753 , Reply# 68 4/28/2010 at 16:38 (5,110 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Hello Lovepuppy--your name is irresistible!
and your machines look brand new. It's great to see 35 year-old TOL Whirlpools looking like they just came from the factory.
I have the less gifted sibling of your machine. Here are some real ugly dickling shots especially when juxtposed with your glorious laundry room. For some unknown reasons, this club just loves mid 70's Golden Whirlpools. Enjoy and welcome to Washer Love You motivated me to master the new Search-a-lator and find this thread from 4 years ago. Thank you. Michael CLICK HERE TO GO TO mickeyd's LINK | ||
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Post# 431762 , Reply# 69 4/28/2010 at 19:19 (5,110 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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Post# 431768 , Reply# 70 4/28/2010 at 19:25 (5,110 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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| Post# 431919 , Reply# 73 4/29/2010 at 14:19 (5,109 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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How fun that you have named your machines. The framed ads is a great idea but how about some real vintage detergents, softeners, etc for display! | ||
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Post# 431992 , Reply# 74 4/29/2010 at 19:28 (5,109 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 432277 , Reply# 75 5/1/2010 at 10:21 (5,107 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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I know that I'm in the minority here but, I've never been a big Whirlpool fan. I prefer my Maytag's, and Speed Queen's. But I have to admire the condition of this set. I'm happy to read that your hubby is getting into the vintage machine "craze" too. Once this set is repaired, it will easily last another 30+ years with a little TLC.
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| Post# 432568 , Reply# 76 5/2/2010 at 20:59 (5,106 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA) | ||
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Revvinkevin... so how did it go? Any news? | ||
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