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Thread Number: 28275
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| Post# 432368 5/1/2010 at 22:10 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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| Post# 432369 , Reply# 1 5/1/2010 at 22:11 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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| Post# 432370 , Reply# 2 5/1/2010 at 22:14 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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She was WELL used. The tub is worn thru a bit from many loads thru the years. We also will need the radial spin bearing on top of the brake package replaced as she roars when spinning. The main issue will be dealing with the large oil leak from the lower trans seal, and I mean LARGE. I wonder if there's any oil left inside the case...
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| Post# 432371 , Reply# 3 5/1/2010 at 22:15 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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| Post# 432372 , Reply# 4 5/1/2010 at 22:17 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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| Post# 432374 , Reply# 5 5/1/2010 at 22:18 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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The Mighty 'M' | ||
| Post# 432375 , Reply# 6 5/1/2010 at 22:21 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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At least the light works... | ||
| Post# 432377 , Reply# 7 5/1/2010 at 22:22 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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| Post# 432378 , Reply# 8 5/1/2010 at 22:26 (5,101 days old) by lebron (Minnesota) | ||
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| Post# 432379 , Reply# 9 5/1/2010 at 22:27 (5,101 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA) | ||
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Since I'm in the midst of working on the Terq 142/741c set with the coppertone A302 after that, this one will be going to live with a good friend not too far away. I'm sure he'll be doing his victory dance here in a bit as this one will be perfect in matching a dryer he has. Besides, it builds up karma as I am still on the prowl for a 142 in white and a CA906 in coppertone to match my lonely dryers... Wish wish wish! I have all May to hope!
RCD 
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Post# 432385 , Reply# 10 5/1/2010 at 22:53 (5,101 days old) by Tomturbomatic  (Beltsville, MD) |
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Thanks That darkened area opposite the agitator fins shows what I was trying to describe about the way the white porcelain can wear away to expose the blue porcelain under it. | ||
| Post# 432418 , Reply# 12 5/2/2010 at 01:53 (5,101 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
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Post# 432424 , Reply# 13 5/2/2010 at 04:44 (5,101 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 432442 , Reply# 14 5/2/2010 at 08:17 (5,101 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Yes it IS Maytag month! YAY!!!
Congrats Andy!!! That is a very purrrdy washer! Just like my '62 A700 as well!
And CONGRATS to the "close friend" (Mr. Maytag) on now having a matching washer for your dryer! YAY!!! Kevin This post was last edited 05/02/2010 at 08:23 | ||
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Post# 432452 , Reply# 15 5/2/2010 at 09:30 (5,101 days old) by bendix5 (Central Point, Oregon) |
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A beautiful machine for sure. Those lighted controls are beautiful. A friends parents had one in pink. It was in the garage and I would sneak out and play when the parents were gone. I think these had the slightly slower agitation and you could open the lid and pull out the timer knob and watch it agitate or spin. This will be a great restore project for you. Enjoy.....Dano
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Post# 432464 , Reply# 16 5/2/2010 at 10:23 (5,101 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 432546 , Reply# 17 5/2/2010 at 19:28 (5,100 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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MT A700
That darkened lower area on the sides of the tub where the porcelain is worn away is a good demonstration of just how hard these washers are on clothing you will never see that on any WP washer even a DD model. This is where the power fin agitator was a big improvement but even that was too big for such a narrow tub MT didn't get right until they came up the load sensor agitator. That said its still a great washer for the collector a have an A900 set in pink in our collection.
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| Post# 432551 , Reply# 18 5/2/2010 at 19:57 (5,100 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
That darkened lower area on the sides of the tub where the porcelain is worn away is a good demonstration of just how hard these washers are on clothing you will never see that on any WP washer even a DD model.
I strongly disagree there. I have a large stack of vintage towels that have been washed in nothing but long stoke Maytags for almost 50 years (go back 3 generations). I have clothes from the early 90's that still get regularly worn and only show minimal wear from use, not from washing. There is no way in hell my towels would live 50 years being washed in a DD shredder!!!!!! | ||
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Post# 432565 , Reply# 19 5/2/2010 at 20:44 (5,100 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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CLOTHES WARE
Dan I showed you my proof why don't you do a side by side comparison and show the results? if you think my more than 40 EXPERIENCE years are wrong. Further I tend to trust Maytag and thier engineers they are the ones who changed to the load sensor agitator for there dependable care washers they did a lot more testing than either one of us. Remember I have been a MT dealer since the mid 1970s I have been in more than 40,000 homes and have had far more complaints about MT dependable Care washers than any other brand when it comes to performance issues. That is why MT was aggressively switching away from the helical drive washer even thier literature spoke of the better cleaning& rinsing performance you could expect from thier newer washers.
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| Post# 432634 , Reply# 20 5/2/2010 at 23:23 (5,100 days old) by fltcoils (South Bend, Indiana) | ||
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dealer for 40 years, ahhh!!! Then YOU'D be the fellow to tell me what PN# load sensor agitator will fit my '74 A606!!. No one else seems to know. Please, what is it? I want to upgrade my machine to reap the benefits of this extensive testing and research. thanks. | ||
| Post# 432635 , Reply# 21 5/2/2010 at 23:31 (5,100 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Wow, 14 minutes of wash time on the dial if i am looking at the picture correctly. My A206 only offers 10 minutes. Why did Maytag get so "tight" with their wash time? RCD, I am glad you are giving this old machine a new life. alr2903 | ||
| Post# 432664 , Reply# 22 5/3/2010 at 02:10 (5,100 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA) | ||
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| Post# 432684 , Reply# 24 5/3/2010 at 05:47 (5,100 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 432691 , Reply# 25 5/3/2010 at 07:09 (5,100 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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MT WASHER AGITATION
Bill the load sensor agitator from any late MT washer will fit I believe there was only one used. If you can't find a model to use to look it up I can look @ one of the MTs laying around @ the shop when I go in later just let me know. MT shortened the maximum allowable wash time because of clothing ware concerns Just as WP Started stepping down the agitation speed on thier early DD washers in the late 1980s as they also realized it provided too much of a good thing. And WP did have quite a few complaints about the first DD washers in regard to linting and increased fabric ware. Thats way WP had to go to the expense of developing the neutral drain system for a reversing motor drive washer and started using the dual action agitator in DD washers. Sears had a ten year exclusive deal with WP on the DA agitator for the KM brand. But WP quickly developed a DA agitator to fit the basic 24" DD washers that we could get through service channels only. There were quite a few basic DD washers out there with a LT blue dual action agitator fitted in them. This solved the lint streaking problem on dark clothing that can occur on a spin drain system and while a neutral drain washer drains some of the water through the clothes a spin drain washer with a perforated basket subjects the clothes at the top of the tub to the water being strained through the clothes over and over again as the washer starts to spin and drain turning that part of the load into a very effective lint filter.
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Post# 432731 , Reply# 27 5/3/2010 at 10:35 (5,100 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Beautiful on the outside, well-loved on the inside! | ||
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Post# 432743 , Reply# 28 5/3/2010 at 11:02 (5,100 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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A700.
One of my dream machines someplace below a Frigidaire WCI-58 is a Maytag A700 or A702, preferably with a Suds Saver. I too would likely use a Power Fin. I like the way the Power Fin performs, I like the way it looks, and you can get it in turquoise or black.
Dave Geoff, can we get a tub shot with the Power Fin? | ||
| Post# 432744 , Reply# 29 5/3/2010 at 11:06 (5,100 days old) by maytag63 (South Berwick, Maine) | ||
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| Post# 432745 , Reply# 30 5/3/2010 at 11:13 (5,100 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA) | ||
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Power Fin in an A700 Yep, my A700 lost its original Bakelite agitator at some point. The replacement is a black Power Fin with a 1979 date on the bottom. | ||
| Post# 432773 , Reply# 31 5/3/2010 at 13:11 (5,100 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Dave ... I don't have one of the power fin (I should get one; forgot, I guess). But here's one of the original bakelite before it was even used. 
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| Post# 432774 , Reply# 32 5/3/2010 at 13:14 (5,100 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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The original bakelite agitator is quite powerful; the recirculation portion on the bottom "pumps" water that is in the agitator out. Sort of like a "burp", but only under the water! It can create a lot of suds; especially with vintage detergent. 
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| Post# 432775 , Reply# 33 5/3/2010 at 13:16 (5,100 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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I think these are great machines and who ever ends up with the one that RCD found, is going to be happy when they get it repaired!! 
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| Post# 432777 , Reply# 34 5/3/2010 at 13:19 (5,100 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Here's Dave's night light ... 
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Post# 432852 , Reply# 35 5/3/2010 at 19:08 (5,099 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WARM RINSE SPINS OUT MORE WATER?
Try rinsing the same load in cold water and then in warm water and weigh the load each time I don;t think you will find much if any difference. The human hand cannot feel moisture but it can discern temperature and items that are colder we tend to think are wetter. Raising 20 gallons of cold Minnesota water in the winter which can be around 40F to 100F uses a lot of energy more than enough to run a classic DW through a full cycle or a new energy star DW through two cycles. I am looking forward to seeing all the Minnesota folks and everyone else at Robert's wash in see you then.
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| Post# 432867 , Reply# 36 5/3/2010 at 20:12 (5,099 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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The worn portion of the lower porcelain basket is a dead giveaway of repeated overloading techniques. I have a '65 A702 that saw much, much more use/abuse and the tub is still near perfect. However, I knew the original owners and their laundry habits. All washes were properly loaded, if not slightly underloaded.
if you think my more than 40 EXPERIENCE years are wrong Well, my 50 year old towels in the hall closet coupled with my nearly 20 year old clothes prove (to me) that long stroke Maytags aren't as aggressive as you claim. Actually, you are the only person on this site (that I have known of) to claim long stroke Maytags have a harsh washing action. Not to be an asshole, but that kinda sounds like your opinions are clouding the truth. Further I tend to trust Maytag and thier engineers they are the ones who changed to the load sensor agitator for there dependable care washers they did a lot more testing than either one of us. Engineers changed to the load sensing agitator with the orbital transmission because of its fast agitation speed that was harsher on clothes and had poor turnover in a fully loaded situations. The orbital trans was used because it was cheaper to manufacturer than the pitman trans, and had a couple of less moving parts. It was also serviceable without requiring a complete tear-down of the machine. However, those points don't prove it's a better design, especially in the long run. Orbitals wear out the lower o-ring seal faster than the older transmissions and replacing the lower o-ring in orbitals doesn't guarantee a leak free operation after replacement. Also, they like to shear the pin and wind the agitator and upper shaft right out of the transmission, requiring a rebuild. It also didn't help th fact that most orbitals used the inferior triple lip seal that lasted an average of 5 years, compared to several decades, like the older design. The fact that most orbitals didn't have a lint filter in the agitator is just icky to someone who has 4 pets. had far more complaints about MT dependable Care washers than any other brand when it comes to performance issues. So, I guess the all of the high ratings that long stroke Mayatgs consistently received via Consumer Reports (long before the days their opinions became skewed) and the millions upon millions of happy customers that paid BIG $$$ for those machines are all full of BS then? To me, it sounds like the complaints you got were from those who were "stuffers" and didn't know how to properly load a machine. They are a common breed in society :) I have used several other washers and never was much impressed. The only machines I haven't played with a lot are belt drive WP/KM machines. However, my parents had a coppertone belt drive Kenmore for a short period time when I was 5 and I remember my mother commenting how, once the KM died (it was less than 7 yrs old) the "new" Maytag (the very machine I still have) exceeded the Km in washing performance and especially drying performance with its faster spin. Also, no more frequent out of balance issues with the Maytag that the KM had. | ||
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