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Thread Number: 28303
Travels East with Surprises both Good and Bad |
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| Post# 432759 5/3/2010 at 12:00 (5,105 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
On Friday evening, April 30th, I set out on a journey to North Carolina. Over a year ago, I had agreed to acquire a GE round-tub dishwasher from Jerry (easyspindry) – I had been waiting to arrange a time to pick it up. Then in April, Ted (bygted) created his discussion thread #27878 advertising ’some stuff for sale’. I agreed to buy his Frigidaire portable dishwasher. I decided to combine a trip to North Carolina with a side trip to Maryland (LOL). As this trip started to come together, I also agreed to pick up Ted’s latest Bendix acquisition in Charlotte, NC and bring it to Maryland on my way to pick up the dishwasher.
I arrived first in Charlotte, where I chatted with the seller about the Bendix. Two other local young men were there to load the machine into my pickup truck. They had acquired a ramp, and it loaded rather easily despite its 300+ pound weight. In the conversation, the guy selling the Bendix asked me if I collect washers too. I told him yes, but I was more interested in vintage dishwashers. He said to follow him into his kitchen. Surprise – Good! There was a 1951 GE Stand-Along Dishwasher. He wondered if I was interested in buying it, and I said yes. So we haggled over a reasonable price, and proceeded to spend an hour trying to get it out of the space. After disconnecting the water, drain and electric power, some lifting and pulling was not working. The machine needed to be pried up and over new ceramic tile that had been laid right up next to the front of the cabinet - but it still would not come out. The dishwasher was still blocked by the drain pipe in the back wall and copper hot water supply line coming up through the floor. The seller finally decided to shut the house water supply off, then flatten the copper pipe to the floor. This was successful, thus allowing us to lift the frame slightly to clear the water pipe, and then we finally were able to slide the machine out. Here is the Bendix, first as it was before loading. The second photo later in the day, shows the Bendix loaded and covered with a tarp, with the surprise GE Dishwasher behind it. 
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| Post# 432760 , Reply# 1 5/3/2010 at 12:02 (5,105 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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From Charlotte, I traveled to Winston-Salem to Jerry’s home. I had an enjoyable evening with him, as we toured his work shop to see his Bendix collection and other machines. He ran the GE Portable Dishwasher for me to see how it works, then we shrink wrapped it and loaded it onto my truck. We ended the evening by running a load of clothes in his Fisher&Paykel washer.
Here are photos of the GE Portable Dishwasher. 
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| Post# 432762 , Reply# 2 5/3/2010 at 12:05 (5,105 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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| Post# 432763 , Reply# 3 5/3/2010 at 12:09 (5,105 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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On Sunday morning, I hit the highway again destined for Ted’s home in Maryland. I arrived and we unloaded the Bendix and got it stored in his garage, then shrink wrapped the Frigidaire dishwasher. Then we loaded all three dishwashers back on the truck and secured them.
Here is the Frigidaire dishwasher; then with Ted and part of his incredible collection in the background. 
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| Post# 432764 , Reply# 4 5/3/2010 at 12:14 (5,105 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Surprise – Bad!
While we were working around my pickup truck, Ted and I could smell differential gear oil. Just when I was about to get in the truck and leave, I decided to look under the truck. Oh my God – there was oil all underneath the truck around the drive axle, and it had even blown up around the tailgate area. From Teds house, I had planned to drive into Baltimore to pick up another machine I had agreed to buy. But those plans were now scrapped in favor of getting the truck repaired. Thank God for Ted. He led me to a nearby town, where I spend the night, and considered repair options. Today (Monday May 3), I went to a reputable service repair shop where my differential was diagnosed as needing to be rebuilt. More to follow after the repairs are made and I continue my journey. | ||
| Post# 432821 , Reply# 5 5/3/2010 at 16:20 (5,105 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
sorry to hear
about your truck! that's a nightmare i have been thru myself last sumer! you do all this planning to get these wonderful machines then the truck breaks down on the road!
but the machines are great. love ther bendix and the round g.e. and the frigidaire dishmobile. i have that model in avacado and rebuilt the pump last summer so if you have any questions ask! i got some parts from mark michaels for it. that's a slant top frigidaire top loader! very unique! got mine from matt in grand rapids. anyway hope your truck doesn't cost too much to get fixed and hope you can finish your trip. lots of pics please when you can! | ||
Post# 432851 , Reply# 6 5/3/2010 at 19:05 (5,104 days old) by turquoisedude  (.) |
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The trip was worth it, though...
Mike, you scored a good bunch of machines there! The Duo-Matic looks amazing, and what luck with the 'stand-alone' GE dishwasher! You probably have some spare parts for that one already... Love the Frigidaire portable, too!! Sorry to hear about the truck, but think of it this way - at least you found out BEFORE you hit the road again! I hope you can get the repairs done reasonably...
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Post# 432949 , Reply# 7 5/4/2010 at 05:32 (5,104 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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Mike, . . . you were the perfect house guest. Thoroughly enjoyed meeting you. And I hope you enjoy using the round GE dishwasher. So sorry to hear about the truck problems, but at least you were partially unloaded and at a stopping place instead of fully loaded and on the highway somewhere. Good luck. Jerry Gay | ||
| Post# 432959 , Reply# 8 5/4/2010 at 07:04 (5,104 days old) by whirlaway (Hampton Virginia) | ||
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wonderful Machines You have terrific tastes in the world of washing,dishes or plates.Glad your truck didnt lock-up on the road,and I hope you get someone good to fix it.Good luck on the rest of your journey. Bobby | ||
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Post# 432962 , Reply# 9 5/4/2010 at 07:23 (5,104 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 432974 , Reply# 10 5/4/2010 at 08:42 (5,104 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Thanks guys for all of your well wishes!
Truck Update: Monday morning after I completed the last post (above) I went back to my hotel and waited. By then I knew that the pinion seal had broken. But the service man phoned me mid-morning and said they had investigated further and there was further damage to the differential requiring a complete rebuild. They estimated it would all be repaired and ready by 2pm. Stephen N. (from VacuumLand and a friend of Todd - varicyclevoice) lives in the area and came to where I was staying in MD, spent some time visiting and had lunch together. That helped pass the waiting time. Thanks Stephen. Then, back at the service center, the truck was finished and ready to go about 2:45 - to the tune of $2300. A clamp inside the differential bearing cage had come out, metal shaved off, and passed through an internal seal. They said it was destined to fail, and the weight conditions, and traveling through the hills were not really a contributing factor causing the failure. I am thankful that I was NOT out on the open road. Thanks for all of your concerns. Mike | ||
| Post# 434021 , Reply# 11 5/8/2010 at 23:10 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Life after a Differential Rebuild
After picking up the truck from being repaired, I drove a short distance into Baltimore, where I had intended to pick up another G.E. Electric Sink/Dishwasher. I knew ahead of time, that the machine had been sitting outside for a year. When I arrived at the house, the owner told me that the parts had been taken out of the dishwasher, and to my shock, that the motor had been taken out. He showed me the parts that they had stored in a box. Fortunately, one of the most important items that always seem to disappear, the drain plug, was in the box. I asked to see the motor. I was again shocked to see that instead of disconnecting the two cables used to start/stop the machine, he had cut right through them. This pretty much ruled out any hope of this machine ever running again. I asked to see the dishwasher, which turned out to be a 1948 Model DE748C16. All that was left were the racks. And I told him that I no longer was interested in the machine as a whole, but that I would offer him $40 for all of the parts except for the motor. He agreed, and even said that I could take the timer cam and mechanism off of the motor if I wanted it. Also items in the box of parts that are of great importance were the original Use and Care Guide and Installation Guild for both the Electric Sink/Dishwasher, AND the Garbage Disposal.
In the end, I was relieved not to be hauling one more sink/dishwasher combo machine back to Illinois with me - it really had many of the parts that I so desperately need such as the drain plug. And a new impeller alone would cost me about $40 if I were able to fine any more. The impeller on this machine is in nearly perfect condition. The racks are in excellent shape. I was very satisfied with this transaction. It was definitely worth the time and effort to add this Baltimore city stop to my trip itinerary. 
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| Post# 434024 , Reply# 12 5/8/2010 at 23:31 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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On to Philadelphia
The next leg of this trip East included a visit with Darren (aldspinboy) in Philadelphia.
BY THE WAY, DARREN WISHES TO EXPRESS HIS APOLOGY FOR BEING ABSENT FROM AW.ORG FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS OR SO DUE TO COMPUTER PROBLEMS. HE HOPES TO BE BACK POSTING VERY SOON. I had an enjoyable 36 hour visit in North East Philadelphia with Darren, and his longtime friend, Bill. The time went by much too fast, but we did find time to run several of his Washing Machines including his beautiful Turquoise Lady Kenmore, Bosch, ASKO, Whirlpool Calypso, and Frigidaire 1-18. We even took the back access panel off of the Lady K to evaluate the drive belt which has a few minor cracks – likely contributing to some squeaks during the wash cycle. Darren has a new belt to replace it, but I have NO repair experience with Kenmore Washers, and it looked like at least a 4-hour job to undo everything under there in order to change the belt. Best left to someone else to assist, who has Kenmore experience. We also spent time looking through Darren’s extensive collection of photos on his computer, plus just a sampling of his huge collection of literature that he has amassed during his lifetime and appliance sales career. Oh, and not to be forgotten – we dined on some wonderful Philadelphia food – I had never eaten a Philly Steak & Cheese sandwich before – I got to sample two different restaurant’s take on that. Darren also has three welcoming cats to make the visit pleasant as well. Here Darren and I are standing in my truck – Darren wanted so badly to steal the 1949 Round GE Portable Dishwasher right out from under my nose. 
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| Post# 434033 , Reply# 13 5/9/2010 at 00:34 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Heading back West now, with a slight turn to the North – Cle
I have been working with Larry at Modern Parts House in Cleveland (Parma) Ohio. He had a box nearly ready to ship to me, when this trip started to come together. He also mentioned that he had recently acquired some vintage GE Dishwasher Parts. As he and I started to discuss my upcoming trip, I decided that I would make every attempt to come to Cleveland to his store, so that I could experience the store first hand, and have the opportunity to search for some additional parts that I presently, or in the future, may need for my growing dishwasher collection.
OH, MY GOD! For those of you who have personally been to Larry’s store, you know just what I mean. Unfortunately, I was unable to meet his wife, but Ray, Larry’s employee was there, and I had a great two-hour visit with the two of them. 
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| Post# 434034 , Reply# 14 5/9/2010 at 00:43 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Mike and Larry
If you look behind us, you can see that this huge building is stacked floor to ceiling with parts. Isles are narrow, and at places, difficult to squeeze through. There are actually two rooms - front and back - equally packed.
Larry explained to me that (I believe) his father bought the business in the early 1950’s. He himself has been in the appliance repair and parts business for 48 years. It’s no wonder he knows part numbers by heart, on machines dating back to the late 1940’s. 
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| Post# 434035 , Reply# 15 5/9/2010 at 00:52 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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What I came home with
Larry already had 3 washing machine timer motors set aside for me, plus a water pump gasket & pump seal for my 1947 Bendix Model S Washer, and his last two D&M Dishwasher Bakelite Impellers.
Ray pointed out to me a whole file cabinet drawer full of REPAIR-MASTER publications on Washing Machines and Dishwashers. Realizing these are not official manufacturer’s manuals, I still decided to purchase several of these, if for nothing else, for the photographs they include of vintage machines. From the box of vintage GE Dishwasher parts, AMAZINGLY, was WD8X9 Tub gasket for the Electric Sink/Dishwasher. Based on my findings so far, I thought that these gaskets simply no longer existed. But this one is in great shape, if I ever decide to totally dismantle one of my machines which have a badly deteriorated tub gasket. There was a late 1950 GE Dishwasher Timer dial from one of the models: SU60, 61, 62, 70, 71, 80 etc. (I don’t know) the part number is missing. Westinghouse Pull-out dishwasher tub gasket, water pump impeller and boot. A D&M Dishwasher Detergent Dispenser. And Agitators – did I mention the agitators that Larry has/had? I selected three to add to my collection: Apex Aluminum Spiral-Dasher; Norge Black Bakelite; Hotpoint Black Bakelite with Cap. 
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| Post# 434036 , Reply# 16 5/9/2010 at 00:54 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Closeup of Agitators | ||
| Post# 434037 , Reply# 17 5/9/2010 at 01:02 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Back Home Again | ||
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Post# 434043 , Reply# 18 5/9/2010 at 05:00 (5,099 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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Post# 434044 , Reply# 19 5/9/2010 at 05:08 (5,099 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Appliance Trips
Morning Mike, wow quite the miles you are completeing, all more the fun when its for appliances!!! Good to see you and Larry, that place is a treasure trove, called there with the guys from the Hoover convention in 2008, managed to root & find belts for the Maytag twinny and some control knobs (from a cooker) that are identical to the broken ones on my Hotpoint 1960 twintub...
Darren, your`re slipping not getting your mits on that dishwasher...LOL Enjoy, Mike | ||
| Post# 434066 , Reply# 20 5/9/2010 at 07:44 (5,099 days old) by markk290 () | ||
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Appliance Parts Mike I'm about an hour from Cleveland could you please give me the phone number and address. Glad you had such a amazing trip. Sorry about the truck. Mark | ||
| Post# 434072 , Reply# 21 5/9/2010 at 08:24 (5,099 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Gladly, Mark | ||
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Post# 434126 , Reply# 22 5/9/2010 at 14:16 (5,099 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 434127 , Reply# 23 5/9/2010 at 14:28 (5,099 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Hey Mike, Happy to hear that you, the machines, and parts have returned home safely, without any further problems. Vehicle trouble is not much fun, especially far from home. I hope to go to Larry's sometime in the future. Enjoy your new finds. | ||
| Post# 434167 , Reply# 24 5/9/2010 at 18:13 (5,098 days old) by markk290 () | ||
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Forgot to ask do they have Sat. hours? Will have to make a list of what I need and plan a trip. Thanks for the information. | ||
| Post# 434192 , Reply# 25 5/9/2010 at 20:24 (5,098 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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| Post# 434365 , Reply# 26 5/10/2010 at 14:45 (5,098 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
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glad your trip
ended well. love those agitators and your books you picked up. i grabbed some last year when i was there.
that round g.e. looks like the one paul (turquoisedude) has, probably the same model?! larry is a trip is he not? i called about clutch linings this week and he rattled off the part number without a hitch! he also knew the part nos of the water seal to my old hotpoint dishwasher! amazing! i have to go to cleveland later this wweek to get that g.e. impeller machine and am planning on stopping buy modern parts myself to get a couple things. he is one of a kind! enjoy your new machines! | ||
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Post# 434659 , Reply# 27 5/11/2010 at 15:52 (5,097 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 434688 , Reply# 28 5/11/2010 at 17:39 (5,097 days old) by autowasherfreak () | ||
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Glad you made it back to IL. safely. Someday I will have to come see your collection. | ||
| Post# 435040 , Reply# 30 5/13/2010 at 08:45 (5,095 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 435041 , Reply# 31 5/13/2010 at 08:51 (5,095 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 435063 , Reply# 45 5/13/2010 at 09:50 (5,095 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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Pic 12. Well it was time to go when you have a one on one meeting with friends it is still not enough time to get everything in, i can only imagine how Robert's wash in
is going to be... he should have 24 hours sleep because i'm afraid he might get into a intense suds lock lol in his head ... I and Mike had a washaholic hangover. Did Mike tell you he had a Hot, Hot Philly pretzel he like them so much he ate three. That's why he has been in the gym since he got back lol. 
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| Post# 435064 , Reply# 46 5/13/2010 at 09:53 (5,095 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 435065 , Reply# 47 5/13/2010 at 09:55 (5,095 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa) | ||
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| Post# 435080 , Reply# 48 5/13/2010 at 12:24 (5,095 days old) by dishwashercrazy (West Peoria, IL) | ||
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Where two or more are gathered - they can have a Wash Party! Darren, I did indeed have a great time. Thanks for your hospitality, knowledge, expertise, and humor. I am looking forward to returning again to Philly one of these days, to eat more pretzels and Philly/Cheese Steak sandwiches, run all of the machines, and maybe we will even be able to change that Lady Kenmore drive belt. Mike. | ||
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