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Post# 438134   5/28/2010 at 23:55 (5,073 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I spent some time with the scanner this week, 135 pages in all. I'll get some posted through this long weekend, different brands or themes every day.

Let's start with some Waste King brochures. I remember getting Thermador/Waste King books every year at our Home Shows. I thought they were just as nice looking at KitchenAid. Oooooh, and that shiny tank!





Post# 438135 , Reply# 1   5/28/2010 at 23:55 (5,073 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Post# 438152 , Reply# 10   5/29/2010 at 00:13 (5,073 days old) by A440 ()        
Great Scans! Thanks!

Fun dishwashers!
Hard to load, and a little noisy! Fun and good cleaners non the less.
I love your KA Aviator! Is that from an original KA Ad? It think it would be great blown up and framed!
Thanks for the scans!
Brent


Post# 438158 , Reply# 11   5/29/2010 at 00:19 (5,073 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
I had NO idea

that there ever were Waste King portable dishwashers.


Thank you for scanning and posting!


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 438166 , Reply# 12   5/29/2010 at 00:39 (5,073 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Like WKs even more than KitchenAids. More rare and fun,thanx!


Post# 438172 , Reply# 13   5/29/2010 at 01:39 (5,073 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I saved a copy of every scan. While these are earlier models and look different on the outside, the stainless interior and wash system is virtually identical to my '85 Thermador THD 3600, which I truly love. I have the handbook for it, but no glamour shots or design and feature information like these scans contain!

Thanks for posting!

Ralph


Post# 438181 , Reply# 14   5/29/2010 at 03:23 (5,073 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Greg
Really great post
Thanks much,
Peter


Post# 438185 , Reply# 15   5/29/2010 at 05:14 (5,073 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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ohh fabulous Greg, scan licious!


Post# 438190 , Reply# 16   5/29/2010 at 06:22 (5,073 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Kool. I remember using them at other peoples places but I don't think I ever paid much attention to their cleaning ability. Would love to use one now and pay attention to it!

Post# 438195 , Reply# 17   5/29/2010 at 06:41 (5,072 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
Thank you for posting this

I always liked Waste King / Thermador appliances. They always looked more upmarket and modern with a hint of European influence in their design aesthetic.

Their range hoods with the infrared food warming function were quite clever and, as a young lad, I always wanted one of those. Weren't they also the first to offer modular cooktops before other companies embraced that concept?

Anyway, I love the brochure with all its details.

Olav


Post# 438196 , Reply# 18   5/29/2010 at 06:54 (5,072 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Say "thank you" to the nice man

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What a generous thing to do! Of many vintage appliance makers, I grieve the loss of Norris Industries. Those built-in barbecues, those beautiful stainless steel dishwashers, those innovative Thermador cooktops. To paraphrase Margaret Mitchell: "Look for them only in brochures, for they are gone with the wind".

Post# 438197 , Reply# 19   5/29/2010 at 06:56 (5,072 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Yay for the Scantravaganza!!

I love perusing these old brochures. Thanks, Greg, for taking the time to do all that scannning, and I'm looking forward to all the fun stuff you have in store for us.


Post# 438198 , Reply# 20   5/29/2010 at 07:08 (5,072 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
love the brochure!

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especially the pics of the parts breakdown!

i was surprised to see that these machines had a 1/2 hp motor!!! i thought only hobart had that powerful a motor in their dishwashers! made copies of them all!


Post# 438202 , Reply# 21   5/29/2010 at 08:20 (5,072 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Thanks Greg!! Nice to see this. Those glamour shots (read examples of loading) are more representative of a typical suburban load of dishes back then than the majority dish load with a strategically placed pot or pan to prevent blocking of water to the upper rack of some OTHER premium-market brand. With that one MAIN loading restriction, I found our WK to be far easier in loading than the OTHER premium-market brand which resided across the street and purchased about the same time as our 1968 WK. THIS is the dishwasher which molded my BobLoad legacy!!!!


Looking forward to all the other scans.


Post# 438244 , Reply# 22   5/29/2010 at 11:27 (5,072 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Thanks, Greg

Neat digs at KA's "SOAK" cycle: scrubs instead of soaking. Loading compromised by the cutout in the lower rack for the tower feed for the upper wash arm; made loading large pots a problem.

Post# 438245 , Reply# 23   5/29/2010 at 11:40 (5,072 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Tom is right. I was recently disappointed that my large spaghetti pot wouldn't fit in the lower rack, not even with a flatware basket removed.

I'm willing to forgive, though. The machine does such a great job. This is the first dishwasher I've ever used that doesn't require me to have a dish towel handy for unloading. Everything comes out dry, dry, dry!

Also, with both my KDI 21 and Motley Maytag, filling the glass coffee carafe after machine washing meant rinsing it out first. Otherwise the water would get bubbles on the surface from some sort of residue--rinse aid, I presume. Not the case with the Thundering Thermador. The sparkling clean carafe goes directly from the machine to the filtered water dispenser on the fridge for filling and there are no surface bubbles. That level of cleaning power and the beautiful job of drying have caused me to fall in love with the TT and overlook its lower rack limitations.

Ralph


Post# 438253 , Reply# 24   5/29/2010 at 12:36 (5,072 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
wow what a cool dishwasher

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I have 0 experience with WK, I never knew they made a SS dishwasher either! Thanks Greg for scan-da-lous scanning, have you got one in your stable??? Would love to play!!!



Post# 438264 , Reply# 25   5/29/2010 at 13:28 (5,072 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Hmmm . . .

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Maybe I need to host a wash-in . . . for dishes!

Or we could all scoff at the Affinity too.

Sodas and beers on the revolving shelves of the GE Combo that's waiting for me at RCD's.

Here's a pic of mine as it was being tweaked for redeployment. Seams around the bottom of the tank are ugly, but water-tight.


Post# 438271 , Reply# 26   5/29/2010 at 14:06 (5,072 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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I want to order the SS/911.

Post# 438282 , Reply# 27   5/29/2010 at 15:07 (5,072 days old) by retropia ()        

I wish I could end tedious hand scouring, forever! I guess that means I need to order the model with the Super Scrub button.

Post# 438283 , Reply# 28   5/29/2010 at 15:11 (5,072 days old) by retropia ()        
Heated air?

Ralph, what is that thing on the middle of the right-side wall of your Thermador? Is that the cover for the forced-air fan? Is the fan located directly behind the opening, or is it somewhere on the bottom, and the air comes up through a duct?

Post# 438284 , Reply# 29   5/29/2010 at 15:13 (5,072 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I want to order the SS/911.

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Right there with ya Jason. Other than the "obvious" for extending the main wash on the Super Scrub cycle, I wonder what was done to extend the dry cycle on that cycle too. Too bad that extra 26 minutes of that cycle weren't solely for the main wash extension!! On our 1968 model, the cook Ware cycle was simiilar to above, with no heat dry. Too bad it doesn't specify whether thiws happens or not, but on our's the last rinse for the whole cycle pumped water for like 6 or 8 minutes--wonder what the logic behind that was for the engineers who came up with that one--longest spray period of the whole machine and no detergent. Anyway, it was accomplished like this: On the Full Cycle, it had the final Sani-Heat boosted water temp. The machine would fill and then the timer would go through like 5-7 increments with the water being heated. If projected temp wasn't met by that time, then the timer would shut off and the water would be heated until the t-stat wasa satisfied. Then the timer would re-energize and advance to the one-minute spray. Thus, the cook WAre cycle circulated water throughout that whole 5-7 minutes, but no heater being energized to raise the water temp while it ciirculated. The Fine China Cycle simply did only two post-wash rinses and then started the dry cycle during te phase that would be the 3rd rinse/Sani-Heat period. The cycle consisted of 4 minute spray phases for Pre-Wash, rinse, and Main wash. The 3 post-wash rinses were a minute each for each spray period.

Post# 438310 , Reply# 30   5/29/2010 at 19:40 (5,072 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Doug, that panel is the fill inlet.

The machine has no forced air. It's the same "humidity free" drying system as illustrated above. You'll also notice in the attached photo from the project that my machine has a heat exchanger on the coil. I believe the exchanger is found on the later models that have the steam cycles. See next post for cycle options.


Post# 438311 , Reply# 31   5/29/2010 at 19:43 (5,072 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Here's a shot of the cycle options on later WK/Thermador models like my THD 3600.

Post# 438314 , Reply# 32   5/29/2010 at 20:02 (5,072 days old) by appnut (TX)        
there ever were Waste King portable dishwashers.

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Lawrence, I just remembered someone posted on Ebay (or could have contacted Robert directly) of a WK portable, avocado, that was either in New York or California about 3 or so years ago.

Post# 438352 , Reply# 33   5/29/2010 at 22:46 (5,072 days old) by retropia ()        

That's interesting about the heat exchanger. It sounds like Thermador/Waste King was advanced for its time. I like a dishwasher that dries well.

And thanks, Greg, for the informative scans!


Post# 438355 , Reply# 34   5/29/2010 at 23:02 (5,072 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
LOVE the hoola skirt on the portable to stop the nasty splas

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Every fill-n- drain quick connect should have one, but no one else does. How unique.

Must have came out the same year as the hoola hoop. How fun to be wearing one and hoola-ing during the drain.


Post# 438448 , Reply# 35   5/30/2010 at 10:34 (5,071 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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The drying must not have been all that great especially when no heat dry was selected. In the end WK-TD did add fan forced drying the 1988 machine I recycled a few months ago had a blower. My 1987 WP DW dries almost every thing when left overnight with the door closed with no rinse aid and always on the no heat dry setting. I have never liked using rinse-aid in my dishwashers because you end up ingesting the stuff. The bottle of rinse-aid says not to swallow keep out of reach of children, also its an unnecessary expense and just adds to the waste stream with out making your dishes any cleaner.

Post# 438468 , Reply# 36   5/30/2010 at 12:14 (5,071 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I think the drying action is influenced some by how packed the dishwasher is. The more hot dishes in there, the better the drying. As stated above, I've had drying results without forced air on my Thermador that have far exceeded the expectations I had formed after years of wiping off cup bottoms with every previous machine I've ever owned or used.


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