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Thread Number: 28904
New Maytags Tall tubs advice |
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| Post# 440611 6/9/2010 at 16:20 (5,062 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
I was looking at the Maytag tall tubs and they have change the motor and wash system in it.These new ones have a twice the life sidewinder motor in it.Has anybody used one these new ones do the Wash Ok? Maytag had a 1/3 Hp motor in it and was a simple wash system but this new one I am nervous about buying it.
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| Post# 440676 , Reply# 3 6/9/2010 at 21:12 (5,062 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland) | ||
It is NOT the same as it was. I believe Wes is talking about the new HE dishwasher. It uses far less water, runs a lot longer and has a manual clean filter. It is also the quietest dishwasher in the industry at it's price level, at least that is what they say. IT was brought out to compete with the Euro brands.
I have not used one personally as the way I use a dishwasher is not what this one was designed for. But my customers who have them have given me mixed reviews. All of the people who pre-rinse love the machine, all of the ones who just load the dishwasher with food on the plates or just scrape hate the machine. They also complain of having to clean the filter and if you don't clean the filter you get the rotting food smell. I think you should be able to put dirty items in the dishwasher with a reasonable amount of food and have them come clean. When I say clean I mean spotless, without any bits of food being redeposited. And your rinse water should not be strained and filtered through the food that is sitting in the filter basket. That is just nasty. I don't pre-rinse, pre-scrub, soak or scrape. I hold the dishes, pots, pans, etc over the sink and what falls off, falls off. After that it goes in the dishwasher, and it comes out clean! | ||
Post# 440708 , Reply# 5 6/9/2010 at 23:17 (5,062 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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Andrew I pretty much use Smart Wash 98% of the time. I can count on one hand the number of times my dishwasher has skipped the drain between the pre-wash and main wash, going right into the main wash and adding the detergent. At my house, that's a really light soiled load that involves no purge/cleaning of the pump if food soil is sensed.
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| Post# 440762 , Reply# 6 6/10/2010 at 08:54 (5,061 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
I have a Maytag 300 Series TT. It still has the disposer and I scrape and into the washer and rarely is anything left behind. I use the smart wash almost exclusively and only know of about three times that it has skipped the drain and fill after the pre-wash.
If this HE machine is like the Frigidaire that was in my house when I bought it. Then YUCK!!!! That machine washed the bottom rack, then the top rack then it rinsed, then you took the dishes out of the dishwasher, washed them put them back tried again, they then came out dirtier than you put them in so you rewashed them again. Also it used so little water that it didn't even get hot. I didn't see the savings with that machine and threw it out after only a month. This post was last edited 06/10/2010 at 14:51 | ||
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Post# 440779 , Reply# 7 6/10/2010 at 11:32 (5,061 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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how the hell much less water can the HE machine possibly use
How does EnergyStar measure water and energy consumption? They say that the Bosch 800 Plus Series dishwasher (those with true European design) use only 1.56 gal per cycle. That sounds very low.
From a European point of view... Currently, Bosch/Siemens offers the lowest water consumption on their ecoStar models. 1.9 gallons for a pre-wash, 122° main wash, rinse and 149° final rinse. The clean final rinse water is re-used to pre-wash the load on the next cycle. Power consumption is 0.94 kWh. Miele's G5930SCi needs 2.6 gallons for a 113° wash, rinse and 112° final rinse (0.83 kWh). This is on the energy saver cycle, which takes longer but cleans dried-on stuff very economically. Pot&Pans cycles use more, of course. Typically around 3.5 gal. | ||
| Post# 440789 , Reply# 8 6/10/2010 at 12:06 (5,061 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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This dishwasher intake looks just like a whirlpool TT but looks smaller the intake where the water goes in in diameter.The strange thing is the top rack wash arm is the same as a Whirlpool powerclean. The water tube runs under the arm instead of the space saving Top Feed like the Old Maytags. The wash arm on the bottom looks the same as the old ones but on the Amana the dishwasher has a Whirlpool metal arm with smaller holes in it.The sales man was telling me that this is a more powerful wash system than the other and I asked him how is going from a really simple Wash Pump and 1/3 H.p. motor to a less powerful going to wash better.He didn't like that much then I really pissed him off when I told this couple that the Frigidaire D/W they were going to buy has a Pump from a Askoll or the same that goes for fish tank pumps.I guess I am getting a G.E. or the Samsung ...
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| Post# 440791 , Reply# 9 6/10/2010 at 12:09 (5,061 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains ) | ||
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| Post# 440831 , Reply# 11 6/10/2010 at 17:18 (5,061 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland) | ||
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| Post# 440906 , Reply# 14 6/11/2010 at 00:01 (5,061 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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The drying performance on Maytag machines is due to the HE rating. Instead of having the heating element on, it cycles on and off to reduce electrical use. This leaves plastic items with droplets on them. You can use Jet Dry Turbo which helps the plastics dry faster, or just open the dishwasher slightly for 30 minutes after use and everything will be dry. | ||
| Post# 441094 , Reply# 16 6/11/2010 at 22:51 (5,060 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland) | ||
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I know what they say. But in reality it does not work. I don't care how hot you get the water, that piece of chicken or whatever is still going to be there. Maybe a chunk of fish or mashed potato or some rice would dissolve but that is about it.
Anytime you get a chance to pull the filter on any of these machines, do it. If they pre-rinse you'll be able to tell right away. If they don't, the filter will be full of food and at the very least a slime that resembles a combination of chicken skin and chicken fat. But it's been sanitized.....uhha. | ||
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Post# 441106 , Reply# 17 6/11/2010 at 23:26 (5,060 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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One of the reasons I chose an LG 9810 dishwasher was to get a super-hushed 45-decibel sound rating plus a food disposer. As several others have mentioned, I don't want to deal with cleaning a filter, nor do I want the water for subsequent loads going through the muck trapped in the filter.
AndrewInOrlando has the same LG, and as he attested in his post on this thread, the machine is a cleaning champ! Now, I just wish LG would improve the reliability of their dishwashers, as they have with their newer washing machines. LG dishwashers are the most repair prone brand according to Consumer Reports' subscribers. Mine's 2 years old and gets very, very heavy use. No problems, so far. | ||
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