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Post# 443357   6/21/2010 at 13:16 (5,049 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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Well I got a G.E. Monogram/profile dishwasher and it washes great.G.E. has redone there wash arms.The G.E. brilliant clean dishwasher wash arms has big holes in it.My New one has small holes in them and more of them, there smaller than Maytag dishwasher Jetclean dishwashers.I loaded it down with dried out oatmeal and eggs on silverware and everything came out spotless.It can hold a TON of dishes..I was torn between this one and a L.G. but I have heard some good and bad things about L.G. I also looked at the Miele and could have got one but I have never had one without a grinder in it.The Viking that was dented well had some other damage they didnt notice the door was warped..I have never spent this much on a dishwasher but I wanted stainless steel inside and out..The Maytag I could have got cheaper and they were going to throw in a 5 year anything wrong warranty with it.I did like the Silverware blaster but this G.E. seems to have some extra holes on the wash arm that does the same.This dishwasher is so quite 48 D.B. and does do some strange things during the wash but I am very happy with it.I did a Bob load from hell last night and I could not be more thrilled with it so far.They had another dishwasher that had this huge blue bottom wash arm biggest wash arm I have ever seen in a dishwasher.It was a display and I wanted a new one but that was the oddest wash arm I have ever seen.




Post# 443379 , Reply# 1   6/21/2010 at 14:44 (5,049 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Ooooooh - pictures, please.

I meant to look at the new GE line at our local mega-store a couple of weeks ago but I got carried away counting how few conventional top-load automatic clothes washers they had for sale (8) and then ran out of time before the dishwasher section.


Post# 443393 , Reply# 2   6/21/2010 at 15:44 (5,049 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Wes congrats on your new machine !
I am with Greg on this let's see pictures of your interior please.
G.E. seems they always trying out new wash arm concepts then any other
manufacturer that i know of in the history i have seen about seven changes.
That Blue wash arm is wild only Five jet's and two center one's i wonder how that works more concentrated washing maybe.
Here is the Blue arm.


Post# 443395 , Reply# 3   6/21/2010 at 15:46 (5,049 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 2. Interior and basket's

Post# 443396 , Reply# 4   6/21/2010 at 15:48 (5,049 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 3. Angled adjustable upper rack.

Post# 443398 , Reply# 5   6/21/2010 at 15:51 (5,049 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Pic 4. Another shot ... in blue.

Pictures courtesy of the very cool Logixx .





Darren k.


Post# 443450 , Reply# 6   6/21/2010 at 19:42 (5,049 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Hey Wes!! Congratulations on the new toy. These have fascinated me for over a year since they were introduced. What cycle/options did you use for the BobLoad from hell? (I'm so flattered). That terraced/tiered upper rack reminds me of Maytag's upper rack before they became Whirlpool clones. And I've counted the rows of tines in the bottom rack, can hold a ton of stuff that's for sure!!!

Post# 443554 , Reply# 7   6/22/2010 at 08:41 (5,048 days old) by bendixbubba ()        
lower arm

The lower arm looks a lot like the one in the GE Max that I have in this apartment. Great machine, cleans great, and it has a decent upper spray at the top of the tub. Have you taken the lower arm off to take a look at it by chance? the feed tube for the arms are not very large, the arm is mostly show more than anything else if its the same size holes as the Max, if they had it just as a basic arm, it wouldnt look like much at all, so beef it up with more plastic. Included a photo of the underside with feed tube to show what I mean. Let me know if yours looks the same when its out of the machine.


Post# 443555 , Reply# 8   6/22/2010 at 08:42 (5,048 days old) by bendixbubba ()        
second photo

and here is what the arm looks like

Post# 443556 , Reply# 9   6/22/2010 at 08:45 (5,048 days old) by bendixbubba ()        
final photo

photo of the upper arm on the top of the tub.

Post# 443685 , Reply# 10   6/22/2010 at 19:57 (5,048 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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chris, that wash arm looks wayyy too close to the heating element for my comfort level. And if that arm started wobbling it would be stopped in rotatoin because of the heating element so close.

Post# 443738 , Reply# 11   6/22/2010 at 23:39 (5,047 days old) by bendixbubba ()        
nope.

Checked that, there is plenty of clearance, pushed down on the arm to see how close it could get in a wobble, could still get my thick fingers between the element and the arm. bottom of the arm has a metal heat shield on it.

Post# 443837 , Reply# 12   6/23/2010 at 10:53 (5,047 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
TOP GE WASH ARM

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Note the top arm the six holes are fake no water is forced through them. I have not been impressed with the performance of GE tall tub machines. I like the construction of them but the cleaning of the couple Jason and I have had leaves a lot to be desired. They can clog very easily there is really no disposer I had many disappointing loads come out of these machines.We have both gotten rid of the ones we had, they work ok if you don't put too much in the way of really dirty dishes in them.

Post# 443868 , Reply# 13   6/23/2010 at 13:39 (5,047 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Sure agree with you John, the GE tall tub I have is the worst machine I have ever used. So thankful I have a KDS18 to replace it.

Post# 443870 , Reply# 14   6/23/2010 at 13:45 (5,047 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE Tall Tub!

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I have to say I like mine I have had since 2003. Cleans great and takes a large load and has many options. But it's true Terry nothing is like a hobart kitchenaid or a whirlpool power clean!
Peter


Post# 443888 , Reply# 15   6/23/2010 at 14:51 (5,047 days old) by volsboy1 (East Tenn Smoky mountains )        

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Well they have changed all the wash arms in mine at least.The holes are small very small.The stoners that put it in did not have my machine level so the pump was being starved for water.I fixed that part and it cleans even better.The bottom arm has ten holes in it that are very small and the middle has 9 on top and 5 on bottom spraying down on the silverware and plates.The very top wash arm has about 6 hole in it that I can see now I could be mistaken cause I know some of them are fake but I have not yet took a flash lite to it.The size of holes is what has me stumped me cause they are so small.I do mean small smaller than any Maytag Jetclean D.W. ever.That's what I don't get how do they not clog up.I thought the wash system in these filter the water but not all of it before it goes through arms.It does do purges now like whirlpools and sometimes it starts washing for not even 30 secs later it drains all the way and fills again but then sometimes it drains it just a little then fills and keeps washing.I do like the Steam part and how quite it is but that is hard to get used to cause it goes against the grain when you have a nice old Kitchenaid and then you have this one and and the drain is what you hear or filling but washing you don't hear much at all.I will take some Pics and post them...

Post# 443913 , Reply# 16   6/23/2010 at 16:37 (5,047 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Pleased

Wes, I'm really glad the new machine is doing a good job and that you like it. I have never had a GE of any stature or age that didn't clean well. Cheap ones lacking a constant rinse left yibbles but they were clean yibbles. The design is impressive and inspite of everything that's said here, I am still most partial to GE when buying new.

Post# 443940 , Reply# 17   6/23/2010 at 19:15 (5,047 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
POWER SHOWER ARM

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The PSA only has three working holes in it, it comes off with a 1/4" nut driver check for your self.

Post# 443984 , Reply# 18   6/23/2010 at 21:57 (5,047 days old) by bwoods ()        
Not pleased with GE's Tall Tub models

John and Terry,I agree the GE tall tubs are not what they are cracked up to be, especially when it comes to disposing of food wastes.

It was disappointing to take the sump apart and find that the food waste could not come in contact with the soft food disposer blade due to a perforated divider in the sump. Any food waste in the wash water (that makes it past the small openings in the sump cover) stay in the sump. During the drain cycle the little 40 watt drain pump must dispose of these wastes.

If you look at the so called "hard food waste disposer" blade you will see there is not even a shredder plate like in the tower models. It is virtually useless.

In the instruction manual, GE states to take off leafy wastes, like lettuce. They are right because they end up just laying in the bottom of the machine against the sump cover when the cycle is over. So do fried egg whites, pea pods, etc.

Occasionally one will slip through and block the pump opening keeping the dishwasher from draining properly, and I have to take the sump cover off and fish it out by hand.

I don't rinse dishes at all and found the tall tub models to be impractical. There is almost always garbage left in the bottom of the machine. The upper spray arm holes clog incessantly. Dried cat food seems to especially clog the holes in the arms. I give the GE Tall tubs a D grade of waste disposal.

As far as wash ability, though, I like it better than the tall tub Whirlpool. The Whirlpool I had could hardly touch dried on egg yolk and oatmeal on dishes in the upper rack. I only run the dishwasher every two or three days, so the food remains tend to be quite dried on.

However, the Whirlpool Tall Tub I had had large openings in the sump and was a real champ of disposing of virtually any food wastes I left on the dishes. I give Whirlpool an A+ on waste disposal and a "D" on washability of starchy dried on foods.

The GE tall tubs I have had remove most of the yolk and oatmeal, but almost always leave some remains so I give the Tall Tub models a "C-" on cleaning starchy dried on foods in the upper rack.

My GE power tower models usually leave no trace, so they earn an "A" in starchy/dried food removal for the upper rack. The power tower models, I have also clean small mouth jars much better than the Whirlpool Tall Tub and GE Tall Tubs. They also rid the machine of garbage, and the food waste disposer blade actually grinds up food wastes. ( On the newer models, I enlarge the openings on the sump cover to let in larger pieces of waste. (The older tower wash units had larger openings.)

I admit I give my dishwashers a tough challenge. I make most of your guys "Bob Loads" look like child's play. A typical load usually has dried on oatmeal, eggs, cat food and various other remains like baked beans or green beans, mashed potatoes, etc. If it doesn't slide off the plate when I tilt the plate over the garbage disposal, it stays on and goes in the dishwasher. Copious food wastes on the pots and pans are also normally present in most of my loads.

My GE tower wash dishwashers seem to be the best all around performers and almost always give spotless results.

My Reverse Rack Maytags run a vary close second and only get down rated a little as when I wash dishes with large amounts of dried-on shredded cat food, the food slivers somehow managed to slip through the filter mesh longwise and clog some of the arm openings. When none of the holes are clogged, the Reverse Rack Maytags sure give the dishes a good scouring.
I also give high performance marks to the old Whirlpools with the killer motor. Very good washability and great food waste disposing. The older Whirlpools are a really carefree machine.

Needless to say, the older Tall Tub GE's have been a disappointment to me.


It sounds like GE has improved the washability, according to their website info on the new Tall Tub Profiles models. Wes, has GE done anything to improve garbage removal in their new tall tubs? I hope so.





Post# 444005 , Reply# 19   6/23/2010 at 23:17 (5,047 days old) by appnut (TX)        
could hardly touch dried on egg yolk and oatmeal on dishes i

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Gee, I don't have that problem with my Kenmore (WP) Tall Tub. And mine sit for up to a week sometimes. But then again, I put my cereal bows in the bottom rack, I consider bowls and saucers a waste of rack real estate space for the top rack unless I need to fill up th top rack if not enough glasses and mugs.

Post# 444054 , Reply# 20   6/24/2010 at 06:34 (5,046 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Looked At One

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I looked at one of these when I was searching for my Miele. Unfortunately, I detest hidden/concealed controls. I want buttons and knobs and lights, damnit!

Miele did not disappoint!

Malcolm


Post# 444068 , Reply# 21   6/24/2010 at 07:39 (5,046 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I want buttons and knobs and lights, damnit!

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I'm with you Malcolm!! I want everyone to know I have a dishwasher, not anothe cabinet or whatever. I wanna see little lights, timer displays, ... When I chose my Kenmo Elite, it was the highest-end miodel available with displayed controls. Anything higher in the line would have had concealed controls, unacceptable to me!!!

Post# 444080 , Reply# 22   6/24/2010 at 08:45 (5,046 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Bosch

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We used to have a store nearby called Dacor, I think. They had a kitchen design studio on their upstairs level. Well, one Sunday afternoon, a group of us were walking through the store just walking off brunch more than anything else.

You know me, I'm gonna open and touch as many appliances as I can in a given amount of time. Now, in one kitchen arena, they had recently finished a cooking demonstration of some sort. Without thinking, I reached for the dishwasher door, pulled it open, and got quite a hot splash in the face from that Bosch. Needless to say, it attracted more attention then I could ever have hoped for in a retail environment.

I decided right then that I would never own a dishwasher without some sort of visible indicator that it was in operation. What if a child had opened that machine and got scalded?

Malcolm


Post# 444101 , Reply# 23   6/24/2010 at 10:09 (5,046 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Never Cease to be Amazed

If this was my thread my feelings would be hurt. It is a pattern I have observed many times here and frankly I'm mystified. Member buys a new appliance. Member is happy and proud. Member shares excitement and experience. Comments start positve and then deteriorate into trying to discredit the value, quality and performance of members new machine. I find lively discussions of the finer points of any machine very interesting, but not inserted into a personal thread that frankly requested no opinions. It feels like an affront to the purchaser's good judgement and I would feel angry, defensive and hurt if it happened to me.

Post# 444106 , Reply# 24   6/24/2010 at 10:20 (5,046 days old) by bwoods ()        
no offense meant

In re-reading the posts, Kelly, I don't see where anyone denigrated Wes's new machine.

All negative points were made on the old GE Tall Tub models. It sounds as if GE has addressed some of these issue.

We are all happy about Wes's purchase, and glad that he seems pleased with it. In fact, I would like to have one myself to tryout!



Post# 444107 , Reply# 25   6/24/2010 at 10:21 (5,046 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Don't Mean to be a Downer...

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My intention is/was not to discredit the original posters pleasure in his new appliance. Who doesn't love new?

I did look at this machine and liked the layout of the interior. But to point out, there is inherit danger in some of these new super quiet dishwashers that don't have a locking lever to prevent opening during operation.

Can a dishwasher be too quiet? Perhaps we should start a new thread.

Malcolm


Post# 444229 , Reply# 26   6/24/2010 at 20:08 (5,046 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Hey Wes!!

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Howz the new toy workin out? Been able to take some pics yet?


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