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Post# 445431 6/29/2010 at 05:50 (5,048 days old) by bajaespuma  (Connecticut) |
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Post# 445435 , Reply# 1 6/29/2010 at 06:18 (5,048 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 445455 , Reply# 2 6/29/2010 at 08:21 (5,048 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Is that a HOTPOINT APEX  | ||
| Post# 445474 , Reply# 3 6/29/2010 at 09:46 (5,048 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi) | ||
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This was a 1953 ad | ||
| Post# 445475 , Reply# 4 6/29/2010 at 09:52 (5,048 days old) by mixfinder () | ||
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Montgomery Ward My neighbors had a Montgomery Wards Automatic Washer that looked a lot like this machine. Were there shared genetics? | ||
| Post# 445494 , Reply# 5 6/29/2010 at 10:19 (5,048 days old) by westyslantfront () | ||
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I never heard of a Marquette. I guess they did not have them in the New York City area, but it sure looks like a fun machine. Ross | ||
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Post# 445506 , Reply# 6 6/29/2010 at 10:59 (5,048 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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Post# 445507 , Reply# 7 6/29/2010 at 11:02 (5,048 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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These Marquette brochures were found this weekend at the estate sales.
This machine is sort of a mystery. Marquette was produced for Gambles Department Stores here in the Northland. They we're headquartered here in Minneapolis. Coronado was a Beam machine made for Western-Auto which was a different company. I have a price list that came with these brochures and it claims that the dryer was shipped from Minneapolis, but the washer was shipped from Sandusky, Ohio which means to no surprise to many of us that the washer was manufactured in Ohio. Sandusky is only 64 miles west of Cleveland where Apex produced its automatic washers for Apex and Universal. The fiberglas wash tub is clearly an Apex design with the water balancing pockets and the control panel looks very similar to the 1952-1954 Apex automatics. Apex did market an agitator (non-bouncing basket) designed washer around the 1956 time period right before they went out of business, but this brochure is from 1952, four years earlier!! At first glance I thought this to be a Beam machine, but no where in the text does it state "fluid-drive". It probably has a beam transmission for the agitation, but I suspect a different drive system for spin. This really is a big mystery. Greg posted a parts list from that Apex agitator automatic a few years ago, although I cannot find it now. Greg do you still have that .jpg file to re-upload??? Also I found this for the Zenith automatic washer from 1955 which seems to have the same wash tub design: 
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| Post# 445513 , Reply# 8 6/29/2010 at 11:35 (5,048 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
I remember seeing a Marquette refrigerator | ||
| Post# 445544 , Reply# 9 6/29/2010 at 13:07 (5,048 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada) | ||
Marquette washer POD | ||
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Post# 445546 , Reply# 10 6/29/2010 at 13:22 (5,048 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Picture of day and Zenith! | ||
| Post# 445552 , Reply# 11 6/29/2010 at 13:36 (5,048 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut) | ||
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Very cool- looks like a APEX, with an inside that reminds me of Speed Queen-- and a fiberglass tub. Wow! I was wondering about the Universal from the other day. | ||
| Post# 445587 , Reply# 12 6/29/2010 at 15:29 (5,048 days old) by LaundraMatt (Youngstown, Ohio) | ||
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Hold Cycle I was wondering...some of the high-end wringer washers had a "hold" setting on their timer which would keep the agitator running indefinitely. Did any early automatics have a similar "hold cycle"? | ||
| Post# 445590 , Reply# 13 6/29/2010 at 15:32 (5,048 days old) by LaundraMatt (Youngstown, Ohio) | ||
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PS My mother used a Dexter double tub washer. It didn't have any timers on it, but my Aunt Margie use to be the "hold" setting for it. I knew that whenever she called while my mom was washing clothes, the wash time would increase from about 10 minutes up to 20, or maybe 30 minutes. I loved when my Aunt Margie would call. | ||
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Post# 445593 , Reply# 14 6/29/2010 at 15:37 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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looks like I should be scanning tonight...
I'll start digging tonight - I can't find the .jpg file of that Zenith/Apex/Universal washer info I had.
While researching the history of Beam-Franklin-WCI a few years ago, I found the obvious early traces of DNA in Speed Queen, Hotpoint, Coronado, Wizard, etc. but those ended rather quickly for most companies once Franklin absorbed much of Beam - though the Beam design carried on in the Speed Queen lineage for many years after. I have some late forties washer service books from Gambles and their Beam machines were branded "Coronado" back then and I have seen no reference to the Marquette brand in any other Gambles literature. Western Auto had the "Wizard" brand, also made by Beam and later Franklin. Do you have anything showing this inter-mixing of brands between Gambles-Coronado or Western-Auto Wizard? I have a catalog from a builder's supply house in Minneapolis called Janney, Semple, Hill & Co. from 1956 that carries a few brands but their premier offering was Marquette and the machines were Beam - 212 degree agitator arc, porcelain inner and outer tubs and fluid-drive. All Beam just a couple of years after the Apex-made POD. This Apex agitator design was also made for Zenith, Universal and Montgomery Wards - the Marquette half-sister discovery adds another piece to the branding-puzzle of the 1950's appliance trade. Very cool. I'll get the scanner going tonight after work. | ||
| Post# 445608 , Reply# 15 6/29/2010 at 16:16 (5,048 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut) | ||
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This all sounds really interesting- can't wait to see all the renditions. I didn't realize that Beam became Frankiln-- and we know the rest from there. Were there ever any Beam or Franklin branded machines, or did they just build them for other brands? Jerry | ||
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Post# 445609 , Reply# 16 6/29/2010 at 16:19 (5,048 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Do you have anything showing this inter-mixing of brands between Gambles-Coronado or Western-Auto Wizard?
I don't Greg, all I have is early Coronado service manuals and these machines were 100% Beam. If we can find that scan that you did of the parts breakdown of the Apex Agitator Automatic I seem to remember it having a Beam transmission for agitation and a different drive for Spin, like my 1956 Hotpoint has but their own spin drive system. The memory is kinda fuzzy though. I was really surprised to see the Apex Agitator Automatic as early late 1952! I really had no idea. And that control panel, so Apex like, but not exactly the same as the controls are sticking out of the left and right sides of it as opposed to the front. Jerry, I've never seen any evidence of Beam or Franklin ever branding their own machines. Well I guess its time to start looking for a Marquette! No better place to find one than here in MSP. | ||
| Post# 445629 , Reply# 17 6/29/2010 at 18:04 (5,048 days old) by HooverWheelAway () | ||
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Well I guess its time to start looking for a Marquette! No b Uh huh... :-) | ||
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Post# 445672 , Reply# 18 6/29/2010 at 21:04 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445678 , Reply# 19 6/29/2010 at 21:15 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445679 , Reply# 20 6/29/2010 at 21:16 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445680 , Reply# 21 6/29/2010 at 21:17 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445681 , Reply# 22 6/29/2010 at 21:17 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445682 , Reply# 23 6/29/2010 at 21:18 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445683 , Reply# 24 6/29/2010 at 21:18 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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with a Spiral Dasher! | ||
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Post# 445686 , Reply# 25 6/29/2010 at 21:20 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445690 , Reply# 26 6/29/2010 at 21:31 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 445692 , Reply# 27 6/29/2010 at 21:32 (5,048 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 445693 , Reply# 28 6/29/2010 at 21:34 (5,048 days old) by tlee618 () | ||
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Thanks for posting these Greg, for some reason the styling reminds me of a Norge. | ||
| Post# 445698 , Reply# 29 6/29/2010 at 21:56 (5,048 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
YAY Greg--a Spiral Dashing Automatic--WONDERFUL !
And how about that ad copy boasting of a revolving agitator during spin which air conditions the clothes. Fabulous.
How elegant the BOL Zenith 200, so simple and inviting, and as clean as a cartoon. There is a mention of one of the machines arcing at 212 degrees. Wondering if any other brands achieve such a degree of agitation. I'll be taking this to bed to enjoy as I master the contents. Will I have to confess indulging in washer pornography? Thank you for taking the time. Robert thanks for the riveting POD. The first thought was: a new quest for a Marquette. There must be life after Apex. You go, Indiana Jones! | ||
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Post# 445775 , Reply# 30 6/30/2010 at 08:47 (5,047 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Thanks for the great scans Greg!!!!
So there was a fluid drive as well in that Apex Automatic after all. No one knows for sure but it appears that Apex was producing a Beam style machine with some of their own designed parts like the fiberglass tub with balancing water pockets, etc. concurrently with their own Bouncing Basket design. The 1955 Marquette clearly has gone away from the fiberglass tub for a porcelain tub and the cabinet now is clearly made by Beam as well. Oh so many mysteries! | ||
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Post# 445811 , Reply# 31 6/30/2010 at 11:14 (5,047 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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I'm ready for my Energy Star Slap
Did anyone else notice yesterday in the Marquette brochure that is says it gives a Hot Water Deep Rinse??? I assume that means if the water dial is set to hot (one would hope that is the way it was designed). There is nothing more delicious and scandalous than a hot rinse. I do it as a luxury once in a while for white towels and clothes.
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| Post# 445817 , Reply# 32 6/30/2010 at 11:30 (5,047 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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"There is nothing more delicious and scandalous than a h
How nicely put. I do it too, same as you, sometimes also with the sheets, and then hang them out steaming. I love it. But now I have to go back to the text and see how I missed the decadence. Must be like the Blackstone: unless you change them temp after a hot wash fill, you get a hot rinse.
The POD's are becoming amazing. Thank you for these oh-so-satisfying reads and pix. | ||
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