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1958 Norge Dispensomat
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Post# 77788   8/12/2005 at 04:12 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Several memebers emailed me for more info on the Norge Dispensomat pics that I posted when Gary, Mike and Tim were here. So I thought it would be easier to post a few more pics of it here. It was found for me in upstate NY from Jack, an appliance dealer in Akron. I bought it sight unseen and it was in near mint condition, with the lid switch being the only thing wrong with it. Its one of the few washers that I have and use that does not have a companion matching dryer with it. Im still looking....there's got to be one out there! But I was very greatful to Jack for finding this for me and its a fabulous washer..........




Post# 77789 , Reply# 1   8/12/2005 at 04:13 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Top of the Dispensomat...........

Post# 77790 , Reply# 2   8/12/2005 at 04:13 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Dispensomat door and logo

Post# 77791 , Reply# 3   8/12/2005 at 04:16 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Dispensomat door, open. You can see the compartments for Soap, Bleach, etc. There are 2 little spouts that pivot, according to the wash cycle progress, and water flows thru them to dispense the proper laundry aid at the proper time......

Post# 77792 , Reply# 4   8/12/2005 at 04:19 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Cycle contols. This is the Regular Cycle. The user can select the speeds and wash/rinse temps independently according to his/her preference......... The clock can be set to start the washer at any time the user prefers..........or it can just be set to manual. Very similar to a stove/oven clock...........

Post# 77793 , Reply# 5   8/12/2005 at 04:21 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Cottons & Linen cycle. If you notice the "dots" on the contol, the user is supposed to manually turn the speed and temp contols to correspond to the "dots" for each cycle.....

Post# 77794 , Reply# 6   8/12/2005 at 04:22 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Cottons & Linens--non colorfast. Notice the different position of the "dots"..........

Post# 77795 , Reply# 7   8/12/2005 at 04:23 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Cottons & Synthetics Delicate......... Notice the "dots"!!!........

Post# 77797 , Reply# 8   8/12/2005 at 04:24 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Cottons & Synthetics Lightly Soiled.....

Post# 77798 , Reply# 9   8/12/2005 at 04:25 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Wash & Wear cycle

Post# 77799 , Reply# 10   8/12/2005 at 04:26 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Safety Spin logo on lid handle........

Post# 77800 , Reply# 11   8/12/2005 at 04:26 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Norge Logo near the bottom of the machine.........

Post# 77801 , Reply# 12   8/12/2005 at 04:28 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Close up of the Burpolator agitator openings. This is an early design that squirts the water thru the top, not sides, of the agitator........

Post# 77814 , Reply# 13   8/12/2005 at 06:49 (6,825 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
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Hi Jimmy,
I realy love this machine. Seems like from the pictures of the dispensor that their is not a actual bleach slot unless I am reading it wrong just says wash liquids I guess that is for bleach? Also on one dispensor it says rinse powder - what type of powder can you use for the rinse? On the timer - time line it looks like when you select the fabric the time line disappears. I would love to see the instruction manual for this machine. Best of luck with ths real Gem.
Peter


Post# 77815 , Reply# 14   8/12/2005 at 06:53 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Peter, The rinse powder would be a product such as Calgon. Norge was promoting Calgon in the mid 50's with their Super Rinse and dispenser wheel.

Post# 77817 , Reply# 15   8/12/2005 at 07:25 (6,825 days old) by retromom ()        
Nice Norge Jimmy!

Jimmy:

What a gorgeous machine! I have to admit, those Burpolators really rock! I enjoyed watching Robert's Norge at the convention!

What are the two small buttons under the fabric dial for? Are they for the lighted controls?

Good luck finding the dryer! It may be easier than you think. Afterall, those dang dryers waaaaaaay outnumber the washers out there in recycling land! :-)

Venus


Post# 77820 , Reply# 16   8/12/2005 at 07:48 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Thanks Venus, the two buttons under the dial are for the light and for a small load. You wait until the water level is at the desired level, and then push the button and agitation starts. Interesting to note tho, is that it is not programmed to work on the rinse portion of the dial. For rinse, you get a full load of water no matter what!

Post# 77829 , Reply# 17   8/12/2005 at 08:40 (6,825 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Jimmy,

That machine is just way too cool! Congrats on finding it!

-ph


Post# 77832 , Reply# 18   8/12/2005 at 08:50 (6,825 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Beautiful machine, and looks very flexible as well!!! Love the "Delayed Wash" feature...much like "Timed Bake"!

How do you change the fabric setting? Do you select it with the lower plastic dial, or the timer dial just like any other machine?


Post# 77841 , Reply# 19   8/12/2005 at 09:39 (6,825 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I see that the flip-over bins for the wash and rinse liquids are out. Are they lost? Way back when this was new, our Kroger store had a display of this control panel with the dispenser cover open and it was rigged up to go through the various functions of squirting water and flipping the little bins to dump the products. I believe that Beads-O-Bleach was a new product at the time and was one of the products that could be added that way although wash powders could be placed in the Belchatronic filter pan and get distributed that way also. Tide and Sta-Puf were also stacked around the display. That was an exciting Saturday at the grocery store. Lots of people stopped to watch it.

Norge agitators were so large for the tub size back then that they really moved water and clothes and earned high cleaning marks from CU. We took some of mom's new foam-backed rugs to a new Norge Laundry Village. Once we got the 1958 green Lady Kenmore, we always took throw rugs to various coin laundries. I chose two or three washers that were right in front of the window. So I loaded the rugs in the machines, added detergent and pushed the coin meter in. One washer would not start. I called the lady attendant over and we checked things for a problem. If you remember those Norge coin washers, they had the unbalance reset on the front right corner, just below the top. It was a chromed flat piece of metal with a forward facing lip at the top and it rode in a little rectangular recess. Well, this one was partly down as it would be if the machine went out of balance. I saw that and asked her if...and before I could finish, she pulled it up and the fill started. I watched the rugs while mom and dad shopped and the lady watched me. When they came back, I unloaded the rugs and noticed to my horror that the soft foam backing on the rugs was now in the bottom of the tub. I quickly slipped out of the door and into the backseat of our car where I tried to hide, but the lady knew which machines I was using and that I was washing rugs in Her new Norges. I saw her come over to the machines and look in and then quickly raise her head and look out the window at our car. I told dad to get out of there and I would explain as he drove away.


Post# 77843 , Reply# 20   8/12/2005 at 09:56 (6,825 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Tom, what and interesting story! I love to hear things like this. And Yes, the flip over bins are missing from this machine. Im trying to make something to work in their place but have not come up with a solution yet. Please keep a watch out if you ever come across any, in any condition at all!..........

Post# 77844 , Reply# 21   8/12/2005 at 09:59 (6,825 days old) by gmpayne (INDIANAPOLIS, IN)        
1958 Norge Dispensomat

Great pics Jimmy i enjoyed the machine very much.
Just wish it had better wash action


Post# 77848 , Reply# 22   8/12/2005 at 11:03 (6,825 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        

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Great story Tom. Those women that ran the laundromats were quite stern weren't they!

Jimmy- What a great machine. The controls are just fascinating. Thanks for posting all the pictures. It's almost as good as being there. Beautiful washer, and so space age!


Post# 77850 , Reply# 23   8/12/2005 at 11:22 (6,824 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Yes that is a beautiful machine, we saw it last year at Jimmy's. I was surprised to see an 8lb tub, I thought in '59 Norge had changed to the blue 12lb tub, but now I think that happened in '60.



Post# 77866 , Reply# 24   8/12/2005 at 13:14 (6,824 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

This is a great machine. And you have it soooo clean! For some reason whenever I hear or see the Norge name I think of Chicago. ... I guess that's where I lived when I saw a lot of Norge stuff, Washers, Dryers, A/C units, etc.

This machine is really jam packed with features, isn't it? I love the "deep rinse" operation.

Thanks for posting the photos, as you can tell we REALLY like photos around here!


Post# 77906 , Reply# 25   8/12/2005 at 17:01 (6,824 days old) by scott55405 ()        

What a wonderful piece to have in your collection Jimmy. How wonderful that there was one out there for you!

Regarding the cycle control, does the clear back ring change the cycle in the window, and then the knob in front is used to manueuver through the given cycle?


Post# 77909 , Reply# 26   8/12/2005 at 17:06 (6,824 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Scott, thanks!. Yes, the drum (cycle indicator) is changed by turning the clear larger knob, and the time line (red line) is changed by turning the 3 point chrome knob. And thanks also to you all who directed a compliment to me on the washer. It feels so good to see it appreciated

Post# 77941 , Reply# 27   8/12/2005 at 21:10 (6,824 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jimmy, thank you for posting all the close-up pics of the machine. I've seen this as a POD and have always wondered what the intricacies of the control panel were. It's truely a beautiful machine. Bob

Post# 77972 , Reply# 28   8/13/2005 at 00:45 (6,824 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Another wonderful example of 1950's Space-age design.

Post# 77982 , Reply# 29   8/13/2005 at 02:41 (6,824 days old) by jdinstl ()        
My favorite Norge...

...thanks for posting this -- The Dispensomat has to be my favorite Norge -- I love the Fabric Selector dots pointing to the correct settings, so cool!

For those of us like me, who can't make a home for a vintage washer or dryer, I love these threads showing all the details, they're like slideshow demonstrations. I admit to pouring over them more than once. I love seeing how the different controls are used, and -- this is going to sound really stupid, and probably is -- but I thought timed washing was a "new" thing -- and here it's been around for nearly half a century. History does repeat itself -- but not as well as this Norge! Beautiful machine!

John


Post# 78008 , Reply# 30   8/13/2005 at 09:33 (6,824 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Wonderful machine, Jimmy! Thanks for all of the great close up shots!!

Post# 78010 , Reply# 31   8/13/2005 at 09:41 (6,824 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

Hi Jimmy. What a beautiful machine. I really like the burp-o-lator agitator...I sure enjoyed seeing Robert's burp-o-lator at the convention. Two of my aunts had Norge Time Lines, one with a solid tub so I have many fond memories of Norges. Enjoy the machine....looks like lots of fun to do laundry in.

Post# 78036 , Reply# 32   8/13/2005 at 11:19 (6,823 days old) by JerseyMike ()        

Awesome machine, Jimmy. I drool over its POD every time that it appears. Thanks for sharing.

CR had great things to say about it. I never did quite understand CR's description of the "fabric quide". I get it now that I've seen you pics. What a fascinating system.

Thanks again,

Mike


Post# 78040 , Reply# 33   8/13/2005 at 11:27 (6,823 days old) by designgeek ()        

Dude, that is max cool. First picture I saw, I thought "hmm, that control panel looks kinda' large..." and then ..."holy cow!.."

So, timed washing a half century ago, and all those cute dots and the clever rotary knob... I think the first impression of a new owner (back in the day) would be something like, "holy cow this is complicated, it's going to take a month to learn how to use it!" and then as they turned the knobs and saw the dots, it would quickly dawn on them what-all those things were for, and they'd break out in a great big smile for having figured it out the first day and it would dawn on them how darn cool this thing was.

Those were times when common household technology could really surprise people, and there was a sense that all this progress was really making life measurably better. The nearest approximation I have in my own life was when I got my first computer, a Mac SE, and realized, "holy cow!, I can edit my writing without having to use correction-tape and re-type entire pages!"

We can hope the next generation has something like this to look forward to. I've heard that people who have solar photovoltaic systems get this reaction when they come home at night and look at the dial on the inverter in the garage: "wow!, look at all the electricity those things on the roof made while I was at work!" But there's something inherently cool when it's mechanical and you can press a button and see it working. Hmm....


Post# 78041 , Reply# 34   8/13/2005 at 11:31 (6,823 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Yes, the "dots" are pretty neat! I guess I should nickname this washer "Dottie"! ha.

Post# 78079 , Reply# 35   8/13/2005 at 15:09 (6,823 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Hey Jimmie...does the lid on that open all the way back, or is it one of those Norges that open about 3/4 and stop?

Post# 78086 , Reply# 36   8/13/2005 at 15:42 (6,823 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hey Rich, The lid opens 3/4 wide. That gives enough clearance for the opening of the Dispensomat door. Its just like Carolyn Appleby's washer! She likes that kind of music.........

Post# 78101 , Reply# 37   8/13/2005 at 16:30 (6,823 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It's interesting how many decades would pass before washers could be set for a delay start to take advantage of off peak electricity rates or a skimpy hot water supply or, to combine the two, to take advantage of off peak rates for electric water heating. Norge continued the Dispensomat feature in a much more low key style with a lid on the top of the control panel that would dispense liquid bleach and fabric softener. It was even on the redesigned control panel of the Norge combination which featured a lower, more squared-off control panel.

Post# 78152 , Reply# 38   8/13/2005 at 21:11 (6,823 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jimmy, does the bleach & detergent dispense simultaneously during the fill for the wash? Or how does it delay and then dispense the bleach during the wassh.

Post# 78197 , Reply# 39   8/14/2005 at 06:00 (6,823 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Jimmy - that is truly a dream machine and it is fascinating with such an advanced design for the times. This is the Dispensomat I have ever seen up close. Sigh - I wonder if there will ever be a Norge in my future... Let's hope there is a matching dryer in your future. There is nothing quite like the sound of the old Norges as they move from fill to agitation - truly the sound of power.

To this day, I still can't believe that Aunt Jennie's Norge still looked showroom new and had the use and care guide when she let it go in 1975. It sat unused in the kitchen for at least 9 years and she continued to polish it weekly along with all her other kitchen appliances. Brooklyn apartment kitchens had little counter space so when not in use the top of the machine was covered with a wooden cutting board - giving her more counter space. I also don't quite recall exactly what was wrong with the machine that rendered it unrepairable. But based Robert's Norge restoration and comments on how difficult that machine was to service, it was probably something no service person wanted to deal with. I would think that today with the internet and parts sources, it might have been salvageable


Post# 78210 , Reply# 40   8/14/2005 at 10:21 (6,823 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Jimmy

Its certainly a great looking washer, love those taller back panels and lighted controls as well...

Did Norge continue to use this style of dispenser on all there later machines, and what year would have been the last produced??

What spin speed was this machine, and how long is the last spin??


Post# 78229 , Reply# 41   8/14/2005 at 12:25 (6,822 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Bob, if you go back to Thread #2853, I had taken of pic of the Dispensomat dispensing. You can see TWO streams of water flowing. There are 2 spouts that work when the water valve is on and the tub is filling. When the washer gets to the rinse cycle, a solenoid turns on and they pivot to the two rinse compartments and let the water flo thru them. Its a facinating system!

Post# 78429 , Reply# 42   8/15/2005 at 10:35 (6,822 days old) by designgeek ()        


Yes!, call it Dottie!

Personally I've never had names for my cars, appliances, or other tools/equipment/infrastructure, though a couple of my friends do. I can definitely appreciate one that's out of the ordinary and fits well. Dottie is a cute name, and it definitely fits!


Post# 79938 , Reply# 43   8/24/2005 at 01:56 (6,813 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Norge controls

I like how the controls work in that one doesn't HAVE to set the controls the way the guide says, that it's really a "recommendation", unlike the Lady K's or the all pushbutton Maytags, as much as I like those set-ups

Post# 79960 , Reply# 44   8/24/2005 at 07:30 (6,813 days old) by westyslantfront ()        

I just love the burp-o-lator agitator. Enjoy the machine

Post# 82802 , Reply# 45   9/11/2005 at 17:00 (6,794 days old) by speedqueengkc ()        
Lint filter

That washer is a nice find. I didn't think there were any left. I noticed that the lint filter was missing. Sincerely, Kevin Speed Queen, GE enthusiast

Post# 82819 , Reply# 46   9/11/2005 at 19:24 (6,794 days old) by FilterFlo (Chicago Area)        

Hi Kevin, got your letter yesterday and the wonderful pics of your filters and agitators and washer console collection. Thanks for sending it. I have a filter for the Norge, but just took it off to take the pics. Its not quite the correct filter but works fine. Do you have the correct filter?

Post# 82977 , Reply# 47   9/12/2005 at 17:17 (6,793 days old) by mikepaquette ()        
Very Nice Machine

I am usually a dishwasher guy & have admired Filter Flo's dishwashers right from finding this club BUT I must admit this washing machine has sure opened my eyes. Very nice machine . Good for you. Michael

Post# 83047 , Reply# 48   9/13/2005 at 00:54 (6,793 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I love the DOTS!

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It gave the housewife something to do instead of lying around popping Bon Bons!!

I wonder if people were "Dot Challenged" by that machine.

Wonderful save and restoration Jimmy.


Jon



Post# 83453 , Reply# 49   9/15/2005 at 20:09 (6,790 days old) by speedqueengkc ()        
lint filters

I think you should retake the picture of the interior of the machine with the filter in it. No , I do not have the metal filter that goes with it. I found a filter/agitator assembly this past summer near Manila, Utah. It came off of a 1962 Norge. I don't know if it is compatible. I would like to find a metal filter to put with my wall mounted collection. I also found a Norge timeline washer , but it is badly rusted. I also found a pink 36" Norge Range, and some really nice wringer washers.

Post# 83456 , Reply# 50   9/15/2005 at 20:30 (6,790 days old) by speedqueengkc ()        
versatronics

I like your collection of versatronic washers. I am going to Billings, Mt. I will try and dig for a variable speed clutch assembly, while I am up there. I hope "Good Stuff" used appliances is still open. I like that Norge dispensomat washer. I would like to bring my GE DISPENSALL AMERICANA, and add it to the collection. I would like to gather all the automatic dispenser machines that are ,in the various collections,scattered all over the country and gather them for a wash fest. I think it would be a blast to see my favorite machines washing,and circulating the water.


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