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Post# 449952   7/17/2010 at 07:13 (5,025 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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One of my favorite colleagues at a cooking school(that shall go unnamed) where I used to teach gave a terrific lecture for students (and invited faculty)called, "What makes a Classic, classic?" I was just looking at the Corning ware post in the Super forum and it occured to me that Corningware, because of its intrinsic quality, market life, durability and style is an American Classic. Undisputably.

I'm curious what everyone thinks is an "Imperial Forum" classic. I'm going to start this with a really easy choice:





Post# 449953 , Reply# 1   7/17/2010 at 07:17 (5,025 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
I bet you thought I was going to pick a Maytag

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This basic style of Filter-flo automatic washer, though not as well-engineered or as effective as it's progenitor, the AW-6, lasted for over 30 years. You can still find many in working condition. The mini-basket feature alone was marketed for over 25 years. Anyone in this organization would instantly recognize that backsplash, homely and humble as it is. It's a classic.

Post# 449962 , Reply# 2   7/17/2010 at 08:15 (5,025 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        

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Ken - I agree with you!

Lawrence


Post# 449968 , Reply# 3   7/17/2010 at 09:04 (5,025 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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I agree with the filter-flo being a classic,
When I think of a vintage washer, I immediately picture my grams 1966 TOL Filter-Flo, it lasted through 38 years of heavy use before needing replaced.

Though I'm not a fan I tink the Maytag center dials are a classic too, everyone either had one or knew someone who did, I think it had a very simple understated design to the console as well as its high quality and reliability.


Post# 449977 , Reply# 4   7/17/2010 at 10:45 (5,025 days old) by duet83 ()        
I have to agree with everything said so far.

My first washer was a 1969 Avacodo GE. Classic yes.

A classic doesn't have to be well made or efficient, but it needs mental staying power. The GE washers of old were not water efficient, that is for sure, and that is my big complaint, but CLASSIC yes.

Maytag Center dials for sure, I agree.

I would add the Electrolux canister. My fav. was the Silverado of about 1983-1984.
Yes they were made of easily dented metal and were heavy to carry.
Sure the original woven hose was totally impractical.
Yes the power head WANDs were not convenient to take apart and swap out attachments.
But it was classic styling. Gotta love the automatic "bag full" feature. I think my second fav choice would be the Marquis of about 1987 ( if only it had the same quality motor as the Silverado)

Other ideas:
Osterizer blender, Amana Radar Range Microwave, GE hand mixer of 1960ish, hoover upright of 1965ish, MR. Coffee coffee maker of 1980.


Post# 449985 , Reply# 5   7/17/2010 at 11:35 (5,025 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

Of course I agree the Maytag center dial and the GE Filter-Flo are true classics. Another is the Whirlpool and Kenmore 29" dryers with the top lint filter. These have been in continuous production (with some modifications) since around 1957.

Post# 449989 , Reply# 6   7/17/2010 at 12:09 (5,025 days old) by jaxsunst ()        

Kirby, enough said :-)

Post# 449991 , Reply# 7   7/17/2010 at 12:41 (5,025 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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I also think any variation of the Kenmore Belt Drive and Direct Drive washers, Since purchasing things on time via your Sears credit everyone had them and everyone still has them.

Other Classics I think of, The square tub Maytag wringer, early GE P*7 ranges, the Frigidaire Flair, Hoover Convertibles, GE steam&dry iron, Westinghouse roaster oven, Sunbeam Mixmaster,really any Electrolux canister or Kirby(though to me the most noted in my past was the lux E and the Kirby Classic), though not an appliance its definetly a classic the chrome and formica dinette set


Post# 449999 , Reply# 8   7/17/2010 at 13:07 (5,025 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )        

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I would have to say that the Speed Queen and Maytag wringers, along with GE and Maytag automatics with suds savers are classics in my book.

Post# 450000 , Reply# 9   7/17/2010 at 13:16 (5,025 days old) by duet83 ()        

GE can opener from 1965 (in avacodo or candy pink, of course) and the large Nesco slow cookers.

Post# 450025 , Reply# 10   7/17/2010 at 14:01 (5,025 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

My Kirby Legend II, Electrolux AE & Olympia One. I must agree on the GE Filter Flo and Maytag Center Dial. I would also consider any Whirlpool/Kenmore belt drive. I the Speed Queen AWN311 at a dealer yesterday, I would also have add Speed Queen to the list as well.

Post# 450102 , Reply# 11   7/17/2010 at 18:44 (5,025 days old) by rickr (.)        
I love most all the stuff from the 50's and 60's

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But the Whirlpool/Kenmores are really my favourites

Post# 450117 , Reply# 12   7/17/2010 at 20:38 (5,025 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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My votes go to the 1957 or 1958 Unimatic Frigidaire washers and the whoever introduced the self-cleaning oven. GE, maybe?

Post# 450120 , Reply# 13   7/17/2010 at 20:52 (5,025 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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An instant classic, recognized by millions?

Center dial Maytag's - hands down. While we as a small collective group can tell a Whirlpool from a GE from a Maytag and appreciate each for their distinctive qualities, almost everyone who is 40-80 knows a center dial on the washer to be a Maytag. Everyone either either grew up with one, or had an aunt or grandma with one.



Post# 450128 , Reply# 14   7/17/2010 at 22:19 (5,025 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Anything 1979 or earlier. When Frigidaire was demised. Anything before that date belongs here. Style and functionality comes first.

Post# 450151 , Reply# 15   7/18/2010 at 00:54 (5,025 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Would have to choose these-Kirby vacuums,'Lux vacuums,Center dial Maytag,BD KN,WP.Hoover Convertible.Oster blenders,VM Blenders,Sunbeam Mixers,KA mixers.

Post# 450155 , Reply# 16   7/18/2010 at 01:10 (5,025 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Ben is right about the Maytag center-dial but a lot of non-washer people gravitate to the classic d-shape opening and gold agitator of the mighty Kenmore too.

Post# 450201 , Reply# 17   7/18/2010 at 10:34 (5,024 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Since others have mentioned smaller wares...

Vacuum coffee makers, especially the Sunbeam COFFEEMASTER C-30 series. Glass brewers let you see all of the action while the Coffeemaster had automation, roaring steam and water and the SNAP of the switch from high to low heat. The Coffeemaster also had one of the most voluptuous and sensual shapes of any designed object although the lower bowl of Cory's first automatic brewer looked more complete without its upper bowl than did the Sunbeam. The Coffeemaster begs to be caressed, especially the upper bowl.

I must also mention the classic shapes of Tupperware, Revere Ware and Farberware.

While not "enduring" in the marketplace, but in the hearts and minds of those who know them, Bubble Lites for Christmas trees rank high on my list of classic designs. Nothing else gave the shimmering movement to the tree that came from those columns of bubbles rising in their colorful, lighted tubes. They had the elements that capture my attention: they were electric, had moving liquid and had a beautiful interplay of light and color. They are the most miniature representation of a vacuum coffee maker which is a miniaturization of a washing machine. A great classic washing machine had a colorful, lighted control panel and moving water and that is how these three classics are related.

Bendix and later Philco front loaders with the "porthole" door and Westinghouse slant front wshers are iconic laundry designs also.


Post# 450211 , Reply# 18   7/18/2010 at 11:32 (5,024 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Classic Laundry

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I really tried to think this one through and there really isn't just one classic model or brand that sticks out to me. It really depends on how you look at it I suppose. I'd say Whirlpool/Kenmore definitely had a classic design that withstood time when it came to home laundry. Maytag most certainly made a name for themselves with the classic center-dial models and their very true claims of dependability. GE was also so well known for their filter-flo design that lasted just about as long as Whirlpool's belt-drive and Maytag's popular design.

As far as laundromats go however 3 designs truely stand out to me. Speed Queen has to be THE classic TL washing machine when it comes to commercial laundry. I'd say that Maytag and Speed Queen really cornered that market for many years and it was hard to find a laundromat with anything in it other than those two brands. GE had quite a few commercial machines out there too. I only remember one that had Kenmores.

So I guess it depends on where you lived, where you did your laundry, and how much money you had. They are all classics now for sure.

Jon


Post# 450264 , Reply# 19   7/18/2010 at 17:39 (5,024 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I agree that the Westinghouse slant-front Laundromats are worthy of classic status.

Center dial Maytags are a given. They were the top rated machine in the U.S. for many years and their durability cannot be disputed. Machine for machine, I think there are more CD's out there to be had these days than any other brand manufactured concurrently with CD's, probably due in part to Maytags costing more, therefore more likely being repaired instead of replaced, and having a simple design that's generally easy to fix and less problem-prone. People don't usually buy a new washer unless their old one breaks, and Maytags just didn't break.


Post# 450273 , Reply# 20   7/18/2010 at 18:04 (5,024 days old) by washernoob ()        
Vacuums

Canister. Electrolux, No doubt about it.

Uprights. Hoover convertible. The most popular vacuum in america for almost 50 years. Probably the most iconic vacuum design ever.



Post# 450303 , Reply# 21   7/18/2010 at 19:28 (5,024 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

Love that Kenmore Gansky! The lady that I used to clean for had one like that, she used to tick me off when she would overload out of laziness.

Post# 450340 , Reply# 22   7/18/2010 at 21:14 (5,024 days old) by duet83 ()        

Wow Rick, that Seafoam Green KM sure looks great!

another color I need to add to my have-to-have list.


For the list, what about DWs- KitchenAid anyone?

refrigs- the 50s round top, any brand, I guess
(not my fav, but....)

Central Air- Carrier, the round one from the 70s.
My friend had one of these until her mother was too cheap to have it fixed.


Post# 450342 , Reply# 23   7/18/2010 at 21:21 (5,024 days old) by sensi-temp ()        
RE Electrolux silverado

AS a long time Lux collector user & collector, I don't consider the wover hose impractical, you'd really have to beat them up to dent them & you don'take apart the power nozzle wands to use for the attachments, was not really meant do do so, that what the extra wands were for. I persoaally don't consider anything 1970's or newer to be classic just lower quality stuff.

Post# 450347 , Reply# 24   7/18/2010 at 21:40 (5,024 days old) by washernoob ()        
Lux woven hose

Have never used a woven hose that did not leak to some degree.

The hoses when used and bent streatched out the weave and created holes, and the air almost always escaped.

The way I was taught to check if your hose is ok for suction, is to stick the machine end on your ear, and hit the wand end with your palm. If you hear a thud sound in your ear, air is traveling ok.

Most woven hoses I do this to, do not thud well. I have used a few NOS hoses and nice, hardly used hoses, and they have a pronounced thud.

:)

They do of course look very very nice though. Bosch came out with a vacuum very recently that has a woven hose over a rubber one. very nice looking.

I think the old pre 1940s hoover style black woven hoses looked the best.


Post# 450351 , Reply# 25   7/18/2010 at 21:48 (5,024 days old) by duet83 ()        

Sensi-temp, I think I know what you mean.

Whether it is a model E, a 1205, a Silverado, or something plastic from 1995. The last I checked Electroluxs ONCE proud name and reputation had been bought, chopped up, dismantled, parted out, ...blah.
You know what I mean? such a shame.

Like Maytag, Mercedes, KitchenAid, Litton, or Magnavox, to name a few.

So the fact that WE are talking about a Real Electrolux, as WE know it, makes it a classic to me.

From what I have heard the models like the 'E' were really quiet, something that electrolux lost as they got into the 70s and 80s.





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Post# 450354 , Reply# 26   7/18/2010 at 21:58 (5,024 days old) by washernoob ()        
Lux

I think the new Aerus machines are fantastic. Probably not the most sturdy compared to old, but still a very good product for todays standard.



As for quietness, probably the canadian lux machines will win that. Models 88, and 89. But most all luxs pre sqare body, are very quiet!

My model L doesn't even have an exhaust cover. its just a hole with a silver ring around it for the cord to wrap around. its still very quiet!

I am getting a mint condition model L, first edition white with exhaust cover/cord winder. I cant wait! Original hose too.
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Mercedes seems to have hit the market again! My uncle has a brand new one, and oh my its the nicest car I have ever been in! Its the 2 door sports coupe one. Its very nice, and sturdy. Merc isn't under anyone I dont think anymore.

But kenmore and such really have hit rock bottom it seems. Oh well. Nothing lasts forever I guess. :(


Post# 450355 , Reply# 27   7/18/2010 at 22:00 (5,024 days old) by duet83 ()        
woven hose on a Eureka vibra-groomer

in About 1980, our neighbors who had a Eureka canister with the vibra-groomer floor tool attachment and a standard Eureka Upright, bought a Kenmore Canister with power mait and gave me the 2 vacs.
She was complaining because the vibra groomer didn't work as well as when new. I realized that the woven white hose was leaking. I ingeniously took the plastic attachemnt hose from the upright, which was like new, pulled the woven hose out of the 90 degree connector, and slide the plastic hose on. (rarely are hose modifications that easy, I was lucky). Then that Vibra-groomer hummed right along.

I was 12 and these were some of my first vacs.


Post# 450356 , Reply# 28   7/18/2010 at 22:04 (5,024 days old) by washernoob ()        
Cool!

Some people even wrapped the woven hoses in a plastic solution type stuff. Or even saran wrap!



Post# 450712 , Reply# 29   7/20/2010 at 12:57 (5,022 days old) by duet83 ()        
Don't get me wrong Brandon,

I don't think that Aerus is a bad product. Afterall, they were the original Electrolux. But now, they can't even call themselves that.

And the stuff that is badged Electrolux is available at Sears and is really just Eureka stuff. It doesn't look like Electrolux. I'm told, by Sears associates no less, that it is really just overpriced.

Aerus is still selling ,basically, the same vacs they sold 15 - 20 years ago. They are good vacs. But without the Electrolux name, what a shame.


Post# 450713 , Reply# 30   7/20/2010 at 12:59 (5,022 days old) by duet83 ()        

I think what finally turned me away from my electrolux canister is going to buy some bags. This was 2005. They changed the bags from their 4 ply bag to a single or two ply bag.


Post# 450747 , Reply# 31   7/20/2010 at 18:36 (5,022 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

What is a classic? A 1974 Wascomat W73!!

Post# 450749 , Reply# 32   7/20/2010 at 18:37 (5,022 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Or this machine

Post# 450761 , Reply# 33   7/20/2010 at 19:35 (5,022 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Another idea of a classic.

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You recognize the brand almost instantly, even before you read the label on the control panel. That font has lasted to today. That unique handle was in the center for years. Same with the control dial; unlike many competitors, they kept it on the bottom panel, because for most housewives, there was no need to touch it. The materials are solid, simple and durable. The ovate escutcheon stands out subtly inside of all of those rectangles. The only thing one could argue that dates this machine is the model label; a flourish distinguishing it a bit from its lesser sisters. This is a beautiful machine. Not only is it intrinsically reliable and well-built, its design reflects its high quality and gives it a timeless face. This dishwasher wouldn't look much out of place in a contemporary kitchen, especially if it were accessorized with a cabinet front panel. IMHO almost every KitchenAid dishwasher up until the 80's qualifies as a classic.

Post# 450780 , Reply# 34   7/20/2010 at 21:53 (5,022 days old) by duet83 ()        

I have to agree with all 3 sweet prior posts.

When ever you see people at the laudromat, what is there. The front loader.

And the Kitchen Aid. I was wondering when someone would mention that. Love the Pink.

Melvin, that Whirlpool. Does it have a sudsaver or the manual clean lint filter, mounted on the deck, at the front corner under the lid? Can I see a pic please.
When I was growing up, we replaced our Frigidaire from the 60s amd Amp Maytag electric dryer with a matching set of Whirlpools. 1976 I think it was. And it looked exactly like yours in White.


Post# 450812 , Reply# 35   7/20/2010 at 23:15 (5,022 days old) by vintagesearch ()        

the ones i can remember would be the filter flo and frigidaire washers that were similar i think they were called frigidaire horizon and of course whirpools i didnt really see any maytags in my neck of the woods...i was born in 85 so....those are the ones i can remember

Post# 450814 , Reply# 36   7/20/2010 at 23:18 (5,022 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Filter-Flo washer - I spent many an hour staring into that stream as a kid.


Post# 450815 , Reply# 37   7/20/2010 at 23:19 (5,022 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Frigidaire. I've spent many an hour staring into this as an adult!

Post# 450828 , Reply# 38   7/20/2010 at 23:55 (5,022 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

KitchenAid single wash arm models, both Big Blue and 4 way HydroSweep, Maytags-center dial, GE -FFs, Osterisers, KitchenAid stand mixers, Sunbeam Mixmaster, all Kirbys up to the Dual Sanitronis 80,Electrolux up to the Siverado,Hoover Convertible, Hoover Constellation, Compacts up to the maroon TriStar,Filter Queens up to the 80s,Amana Radarange with chrome swing down door,Crock Pot,style F and G Eurekas,including Sanitaires, see thru Proctor Silex percalators,George Foreman grills,Dishmasters,solid tub Speed Queens,ConAir blowdriers,Regina ElectrikBrooms before they went all plastic,Swingmaster can opener, Farberware convection ovens,...

Post# 450833 , Reply# 39   7/21/2010 at 00:01 (5,022 days old) by washernoob ()        
mrcleanjeans

Wow. I think you nailed it! I would say for kirbys to include the classic series. I think thats the most iconic model of kirby. Maybe not. But thats what I always see when I think of kirby.

I totally forgot about kitchenaid stand mixers! One of the most thought of home small appliance!

Gregs filter flow picture is yummy. :D


Post# 450835 , Reply# 40   7/21/2010 at 00:19 (5,022 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

Actually Brandon, you are right. The Kirby Classic and the Classic Omega are the top selling Kirbys ever and really are Classic. The Classic III had 2 bad bugs about it, though pretty. 1ST, the awful pointish skinny handle grip which they quickly got rid of somewhere in production.2nd, that stiff plaid "industrial filter" bag that seeped dust like a mofo! I realize some Omegas did too, with their plastic nubbies all over the bag, but not like that red one. I didn't want to go past the D-80 in my list because the Classic series were oxy and clunky, ungraceful. But they do stick out in history. You will find more Kirby Classics than any other Kirby everywhere!

Post# 450837 , Reply# 41   7/21/2010 at 00:24 (5,022 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        
A few more

Delta single-handle faucet (original style)

Western Electric 500 & 2500 series phones (also made by ITT, Northern Telecom, and Stromberg-Carlson)

GE C-7 & C-9 Christmas lights

Hamilton Beach commercial milkshake machine


Post# 450838 , Reply# 42   7/21/2010 at 00:30 (5,022 days old) by washernoob ()        
Kirbys

Yep your right. The only classic I ever owned was an omega with a eureka F&G bag setup. It was a fairly good cleaner, but just a tad ugly. Lol

I adore the C and R series, and the 505-509. Im looking at a 510 at the moment for a local collector.

This collector in town has a scotts and fetzer sanitaiton system, and almost all kirbys up to the sentria, with multiples of the 509-sentria series. Comvacs and super sweepers too. Its really impressive.



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