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Post# 453691   8/2/2010 at 07:53 (4,987 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi all,

Moved into my new flat this weekend just gone, all settled in now and just thought I'd give my pennies worth on the machine.

It's a Beko WM5120, and to be honest I'm quite impressed for a sub £200 machine. Doesn't mess around on the cycles, 2 hours standard or 1 hour with quick wash, good rinse spins, and doesn't mess around spinning, just drains, distributes then spins without any bursts.

Not a bad machine at all, to be honest it seems to be programmed much better than my sister's Zanussi Essential.

Jon





Post# 453694 , Reply# 1   8/2/2010 at 08:07 (4,987 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        
Control panel

Nice and simple

Post# 453696 , Reply# 2   8/2/2010 at 08:11 (4,987 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Got my old faithful dryer back with me

Post# 453697 , Reply# 3   8/2/2010 at 08:12 (4,987 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

And a shot of the kitchen, bit blurry I'm afraid as I had to do a sneaky pic but you get the idea

Jon


Post# 453704 , Reply# 4   8/2/2010 at 09:06 (4,987 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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Very nice, I know this feels like home!
And great water level on that washer, does it go higher during the rinse phase?


Post# 453707 , Reply# 5   8/2/2010 at 09:28 (4,987 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

Where's the Brown Betty teapot? Where are the teapot cozies?

Are you SURE this photo was taken in England??? ;)


Post# 453732 , Reply# 6   8/2/2010 at 10:39 (4,987 days old) by favorit ()        
That is the actual rinse level on half loads

Hi Larry,
I bet that shot has been taken on the last rinse.....those drops on the glass door are due to the fabric softener


Post# 453734 , Reply# 7   8/2/2010 at 10:42 (4,987 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Congrats!!

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All the best Jon in your new abode, looks great, those Beko seem to be good machines....

Whats the powder dixan?? Any space for a hoovermatic!!!

Cheers, Mike


Post# 453743 , Reply# 8   8/2/2010 at 11:16 (4,987 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Best wishes on the new place Jon

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hope it works out well for you. Kitchen does not look bad at all - and dont forget that if there is not room for a twinnie, the Hoover wringer washers will fit into the smallest space - even under the draining board :) Who needs a Beko anyway LOLOLOL Or it looks like separate fridge & freezer just outside - get them up on a shelf and there will be PLENTY of room to fit a Supertwin under them :)

Al


Post# 453751 , Reply# 9   8/2/2010 at 11:40 (4,987 days old) by dyson2drums (United Kingdom)        

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Hey Jon

Congrats on your new place.

WOW, this machine sure goes beyond my expectation, nice water levels and easy to use.

All the best

take care


Post# 453768 , Reply# 10   8/2/2010 at 12:27 (4,987 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Larry/Favorit - that's the rinse level if you have quick wash selected, it deletes a rinse but compensates for this by doing deeper rinses. On the standard cycle the water is just above the lip of the drum. When the drum is stationary it is quite deep on the quick wash rinses - up the flat part of the door glass.

Jim - we did actually buy a teapot lol, it usually lives under next to the kettle but was on the draining board when the picture was taken, it's well used :).

Mike - yes so far it seems to be a decent machine, seems to have better cycles than Indesits of a similar price. Very interesting sudslock routine too - will cut the spin out, fill the sump up, then drain again and carry on rather than just sitting there pumping like a lot of other machines seem to do nowadays. Ariel powder, and unfortunately no room for a twinnie, that and I'm not quite sure what the flatmates would say hehe. But yes - would definitely recommend the Beko for a budget machine - not just that, but parts are interchangeable and very inexpensive...

Al - yeah, stacked the fridge and freezer outside the kitchen to accommodate the tumble dryer, needs must and all that lol. Of course there is plenty of space in the parents garage for a twin tub, so who knows hehe. Saying that, if I did have a twin tub here at the flat, I could always use the machine when its dormant to roll my pastry on ;).

Cheers guys,

Jon


Post# 453799 , Reply# 11   8/2/2010 at 13:24 (4,987 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
What? No dishwasher? LOL

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Congratulations on the new flat. My second hand appliances dealer thinks Beko builds the best washing machine in the lower price range. He extended his business by starting new machines from Beko. He wouldn't have done that if they were no good. He loves appliances way too much. So happy washing with it.

BTW, good to see the Lavatherm back. No dishwasher though...


Post# 453801 , Reply# 12   8/2/2010 at 13:26 (4,987 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Congrats on the new place Jon.

Liking the facing each other set up in the kitchen and drooling over the lavatherm. Lovely machine.

In my previous place, I used the WMA520W which, I would assume, would be the earlier version of yours. Deffo looks similar. Did the biz for a household of 7 with little fuss - so much so that landlord bought another one to work alongside it.

Enjoy the new place and the Beko.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 453814 , Reply# 13   8/2/2010 at 14:39 (4,987 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Pastry

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Well Jon, you know me well enough by now to know that a place to roll pastry would always be important to me LOLOLOL
Al


Post# 453832 , Reply# 14   8/2/2010 at 15:32 (4,987 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thank god it wasn't the bottom end machine that takes 3 days to do a wash cycle lol. Congrats on the new place J, can't wait to come see it, if you'll have me. I knew you'd cave with the dryer lol. xx

Post# 453915 , Reply# 15   8/2/2010 at 19:18 (4,986 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jon, congratulations on moving into the new flat!! You tryinig to make me feel old mister? You've literally grown up before my eyes over the years--you & Jamie both!! Is there a dishwaher about somewhere?

Post# 453917 , Reply# 16   8/2/2010 at 19:19 (4,986 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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I have exactly the same extractor unit as you! However loads of cornflakes fell in te top once from the cupboard so whenever I turn it on they spit out.

Your oven looks better than mine though!


Post# 453936 , Reply# 17   8/2/2010 at 20:31 (4,986 days old) by A440 ()        

Congratulations on your new place Jon!
Everything looks so nice and tidy!
Brent


Post# 454079 , Reply# 18   8/3/2010 at 07:09 (4,986 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I've just noticed Jon, that was the same kitchen and cooker/hob we had in the flat, remember?

Be careful! Those hobs are a nightmare for burning pans


Post# 454095 , Reply# 19   8/3/2010 at 07:51 (4,986 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Dishwasher

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Jon
Looks to me like there might be room to fit in a Bosch counter top dishwasher .... Or there is a Servis one which might be available for loan - should have asked weekend before last LOLOLOL

Chris is correct, those hobs are a real nightmare and seriously, if you are more used with gas, I would get one of those small counter top induction units which crop up on ebay quite regularly now for modest cost.

Al


Post# 454203 , Reply# 20   8/3/2010 at 13:30 (4,986 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Al, I've lost count of the amount of pans we went through with that hob. Thank god I'm back to a gas hob in this house.

Post# 455022 , Reply# 21   8/6/2010 at 16:40 (4,983 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Cheers guys - sorry for the late reply, a combination of dodgy wireless internet and not wanting to post with people around lol.

Wish I had room for a dishwasher, though tbh it's not as bad as I thought going back to washing by hand - not even any room for a compact one never mind a slimline hehe.

The hob I'm not too pleased with - though it seems to be alright on pans and that - either way they're all only either cheap Tesco Value or Ikea ones lol, classy bird am I. I've just got used too much to the gas one mum had in her kitchen, wok burner and all! The oven takes gettign used to though, it isnt a fan oven so everything seems to get burnt on the outside.

Washing wise it's pretty much got set in - still liking the machine, washes really well and fairly quiet bar the wooden joist floor which causes my friends bedroom wall to rattle whenever the washer is on a spin cycle lol.

Here's some better shots of the kitchen.

Jon


Post# 455024 , Reply# 22   8/6/2010 at 16:42 (4,983 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

the other side

Post# 455039 , Reply# 23   8/6/2010 at 17:48 (4,982 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Bosch

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Now Jon, I am SURE you could fit in a Bosch countertop in the corner by the sink :)

The oven suffers from the problem that besets many modern ovens, the ability to set the oven temperature accurately. And as time goes on, the temperature setting get rubbed off with cleaning. It may also be that it is running a bit hot in any case - ovens do vary so try reducing the temperature 10 degrees or so and see how that works. Are you finding things getting burned on the bottom? Try wrapping foil around the shelf - shiny side down, that may help reflect some of the heat coming from the bottom element.

Al


Post# 455055 , Reply# 24   8/6/2010 at 18:47 (4,982 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Haha, don't tempt me with the dishwasher ;).

It's not necessarily where you put it in the oven, it's more the fact that you stuff will still be almost raw inside yet burnt on the outside. For example, when we first moved in we put pizzas in the oven, 200 for 10 mins as the directions say and it was burnt to a crisp on the outside but barely warm inside. Will try perhaps lowering the temp as hyou suggested and perhaps leaving in for a little longer instead.

As with anything new I guess, once I'm adapted to it I should be fine. Just been used to the luxury of mum's more well-equipped cooking appliances lol.

Cheers,

Jon


Post# 455122 , Reply# 25   8/7/2010 at 04:26 (4,982 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Could it be that the bottom element of the oven is not working?

Post# 455749 , Reply# 26   8/9/2010 at 19:13 (4,979 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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John

Your kitchen is bigger than mine! I have a bosch compact SKT5102 dishwasher in the corner where your sink is and it fits fine on the work top.


Post# 455895 , Reply# 27   8/10/2010 at 09:01 (4,979 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        
don't get a kenwood dishwasher

dont buy a kenwood compact dishwasher coz my sister has one and two years down the line the clear plastic insert fell out of the inner door

Post# 456053 , Reply# 28   8/10/2010 at 20:41 (4,978 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Jon!

Glad you've got it all organised dude. Looks like the laundry is being well catered for with the Beko & AEG. Glad the landlord went for the slightly higher WM5120 W rather than the lower spec one with just the one dial & no quick wash.

Just a shame about the oven & hob - i had that same sort of nasty rubbish in a flat in Manchester & it was hell to use. Probably not alot you can do till it breaks unless youre willing to pay for something else though, which personally i wouldn't if it's not my house!

I look forward to seeing it in the flesh soon. Bit of Notts & NG1 is long overdue ;-)

Liam.


Post# 456182 , Reply# 29   8/11/2010 at 12:19 (4,978 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        
thank you for posting the side photos, Jon

I can now sleep at night, assured that you DO have a cordless electric tea kettle, albeit not a Russell Hobbs (my relatives use Russell Hobbs "just because").

However, while you claim to own a Brown Betty or similar teapot, I didn't see it ready for use on the counter top. I have strong evidence that my London-based relatives use tea bags when no one is looking. The loose tea is trotted out only for show, as in impressing visiting American relatives. Even worse, I suspect that some of them may not even use a teapot any more, instead "going American" and "brewing" (using the term loosely) right in the cup(pa).

I need to see evidence of teapots, cozies, and "things for tea" (clotted cream, lemon curd, biscuits, etc.). Supposedly, HM brings her own teapot and water kettle along on international trips, because you just can't trust the locals to know how to make a proper cuppa.


Post# 456186 , Reply# 30   8/11/2010 at 12:35 (4,978 days old) by Mr_Sparkle ()        

Hi Jon! Long time no speak!!!

Love the flat - where are you, your not in Notts are you? WOW if you are then we can meet up I'm in Derbyshire!

Love the dryer!

Be careful with counter top dishwashers there are lots of rubbish ones out there - the Swan / Kenwood ones are awful!

Have a Bosch myself, well had one but may have broken it!


xxx


Post# 456187 , Reply# 31   8/11/2010 at 12:42 (4,978 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Cheers Liam - the oven is a bit of a bugger but tbh we've got used to it's quirks now and have adapted to it. Course you are welcome anytime :-)

Jim - ah, unfortunately we only have a cheap supermarket-brand matching toaster and kettle set - though if you look in reply 21 you can see the teapot under the boiler next to the water filter - handily placed next to the kettle and sugar and tea caddies. No tea cosies needed in this house - my flatmate and I drink it like water. Admittedly I do use teabags even in the pot, bit of a faux pas really but as long as you don't tell the guests nobody knows better ;-). You may have also noticed the vodka bottle next to the kettle - let me clarify now that I am not the sort to spike the vicars tea :).

Jon


Post# 456189 , Reply# 32   8/11/2010 at 12:43 (4,978 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Hi John - yes indeed I am in Notts, live a 5 min walk from the Victoria Centre :)

Jon


Post# 456194 , Reply# 33   8/11/2010 at 12:50 (4,978 days old) by Mr_Sparkle ()        

Oh Jon thats great news! We will have to get together for alittle wash in sometime!

Have you been on the Robin Hood experience yet - its so funny!

I am going to be between Derbyshire and the SOuth from September - hopefully to become Dr Sparkle!


Post# 456202 , Reply# 34   8/11/2010 at 13:10 (4,978 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Is that the place near the castle with the Robin Hood ride? If so my grandma took us there when I was about 8 lol. I also the caves under the Broad Marsh centre quite bizarre!

Jon


Post# 456218 , Reply# 35   8/11/2010 at 14:28 (4,978 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

Hi Jon, I belong to an Anglican parish here but have never spiked the vicar's tea. ;) Besides most of the clergy here are hooked on coffee. The term "vicar" here is used to denote the head clergyman/woman of a "mission" congregation, i.e. one that is not self-supporting and which receives financial support from the diocese. The two most common reasons for mission status are:

1. parish in a newly developed area which is still trying to grow and get on its own two feet

2. parish in an area that is becoming lower income, with middle class moving out, and thus seeing a decline in its tithing revenues.

Churches here do not receive state funding, nor is there a payroll withhold tax that goes to one's church, as in the case in many European countries (Germany, Italy, Sweden, etc.). All donations are voluntary, but ARE tax-deductible up to a limit (I think it's like 40 or 50% of one's income). Say someone earns $100K per annum but donates $10K to registered charities (one's parish, Red Cross, Cancer Fund, whatever). The taxable income will be only $90K and the last $10K would avoid taxation.

It is not uncommon here to see people who donate 5-10% of their annual income to various charities, including churches, but then again it's interesting how the tax regulations bring out the generosity in so many people. ;) Very wealthy people, who still have lots of money left over after donations, often donate much larger % amounts, 20-40% or more.

The result for a particular parish here is that its financial fortunes hinge largely on the size and prosperity of its congregation. The bishop can help fund a financially distressed parish if he/she (yes, we have female Anglican bishops here....the Los Angeles diocese has two women Suffragan Bishops) wishes to keep a church presence in the area, and such parishes revert to "mission" status. I believe in this situation that the bishop can directly make hiring decisions re: clergy, whereas in a parish this is the decision of the Vestry.

PS when I have asked in the past WHY the tea kettle HAS to be Russell Hobbs, the answer is always "because it's Russell Hobbs." Um, yeah, right. ;) The other amusing aspect is when relatives from the UK visit here and whinge about how slow our tea kettles are....forgetting that we are cooking with 120V and not 240V (i.e. 1500-1800 Watts rather than 3000 Watts). Their "only the UK knows how to do things right" attitude is actually the result of their poor education in Basic Physics.

PS#2 I have a relative in London who is a physician who still insists that Nobel Prize winner James Watson was British (despite having been born in Chicago to American parents). His co-winner and collaborator Francis Crick WAS British, but my cousin is convinced that Mother England has a monopoly on the structure of DNA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Wa...

Disclaimer: while Anglican churches in USA respect the Archbishop of Canterbury as head of the worldwide Anglican Communion, HM The Queen is NOT the legal head of the church here (and prayers for the Royal Family have been purposefully deleted from the American version of the Book of Common Prayer). This was necessary after the Revolutionary War in order to save the many existing Anglican parishes from extinction. For one, clergy had had (pre-war) to make loyalty oaths to the King, and any faith that regarded the British monarch as its head would not have long to survive. The 39 Articles were re-written to omit royal references. The newly independent church was rechristened The Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States (today: The Episcopal Church) and eventually was admitted into the Anglican Communion (remember, this was new territory for the Church of England, the first time a colony had rebelled successfully, so there was no procedure of what do to if they had many parishes in a newly independent country). On major occasions, HM is invited as an honorary guest to cut ribbons and open things. For example, when construction was completed on Washington's National (Episcopal) Cathedral, HM cut the ribbon and dedicated the completed structure. (no one asked her what she thought of the Darth Vader gargoyles carved into one of the columns....).

The article gives details of HM's 1977 dedication visit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ca...





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Post# 456227 , Reply# 36   8/11/2010 at 14:39 (4,978 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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^I think he was joking...

Post# 456228 , Reply# 37   8/11/2010 at 14:39 (4,978 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Liam

Hi Liam.

Hope your well. Where in Manchester did you live?. I left Manchester 4 years ago to live with my partner in Royton.

The only thing I miss about Manchester is the buses on hyde road, and, when I use to go out with my mate, getting the last bus home at 0245hrs for £2.50.

Royton out in the sticks, last bus back from Manchester is 2305.

Take care

Paul


Post# 456232 , Reply# 38   8/11/2010 at 14:53 (4,978 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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"Their "only the UK knows how to do things right" attitude is actually the result of their poor education in Basic Physics"

I actually have a huge problem with this comment. That's the equivalent of me saying (in response to your post) "in typical american fashion, you are generalising British people as tea-slugging, pompous know-it-all's" which is, of course, not the case, but I wouldn't post a comment like that knowing how many american people are on this forum and knowing what a ridiculous generalistic comment it is. Maybe think twice before tarring the whole of the british population with the same brush on a forum with a large number of british members next time.

On a final note, Jon was joking with his post, so your response was incredibly unnecessary.


Post# 456233 , Reply# 39   8/11/2010 at 15:01 (4,978 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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^ok, yes I might have read too much into your post, I apologies. I'm slightly frustrated and totally took that the wrong way.

Just for reference, I've never owned a tea pot in my life :P


Post# 456235 , Reply# 40   8/11/2010 at 15:08 (4,978 days old) by Mr_Sparkle ()        

PassatDoc your response seems to be very passionate, however I have had to re-read the thread in case I missed something, was all that post just from Jon joking that he is going to spike the vicars tea with vodka? Or have I in fact missed something?

As for the kettle thing, well if your used to something boiling fast like we are here in the UK, you take it for granted and assume all kettles boil as fast. Not everyone thinks about vols and watts, rather they are just waiting for the kettle to boil and commenting on it.

As for the thing about British only knowing how to do things right, I am British and you can ask me any day of the week who makes the best engines and I will say AMERICANS! As will any of my family. We fell in love with American enginering living on an American Airforce Base.

Please do not tar us all with some colonial stiff upper lip, funny talking brush as you have done in your very long post. What ever steriotypes you see in the movies playing British bad guys, I can assure you that there are the rest of us, going about our normal daily lives without such complexes about how we are the only nation to know how to make things.



Post# 456263 , Reply# 41   8/11/2010 at 17:17 (4,978 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Perhaps time to get the teapot out? :)

Post# 456268 , Reply# 42   8/11/2010 at 17:24 (4,978 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Perhaps time to get the teapot out? :)

Perhaps the vodka too :)

Post# 456350 , Reply# 43   8/11/2010 at 22:16 (4,977 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)        

AquaCycle, I am afraid you have described the majority of my UK relatives better than we can....I know you haven't met them, but some really ARE more or less tea-drinking slugs. Many of them could be described fairly as whingers. Several of them hold honourary knighthoods and various OBE levels...are they pompous? Yeah, baby!

That said, nearly all UK visitors I meet here (other than my own relatives...) are kind and polite. Occasionally I'll get some bizarre questions (in particular, from Disney aficionados who think the locals are all Disneyland history experts---I've actually been asked whether I think "Space Mountain" is better in California or in Florida...) but then again US tourists must ask some idiotic questions too. I never ask anything more intrusive than street directions.

I simply seem to have been stuck with more than my fair share of bizarre UK relatives. If you met them, you'd understand. I visit Europe roughly once a year, but my last time in UK was long ago. When people ask why so long no time in UK (given that I have relatives there), I am tempted to say "If you knew them, you wouldn't ask that question" but I just give a rather nebulous answer like "well, they visit here in the winter, so I see them here."

Five minutes with my cousin R----- and you'd be climbing the walls, too---he fairly oozes pomposity.

PS: I have a set of Margaret Thatcher tea mugs, a gift from one set of the UK relatives. THIS WAS NOT A JOKE, they gave them to me in all seriousness. He was chair of the Tories in Kent at the time. (yes, I have had high tea inside the Conservative Club of Margate....what an experience. It was BYOGM: Bring Your Own Gas Mask, as protection against the cummulonimbus clouds of cigarette smoke).


Post# 456358 , Reply# 44   8/11/2010 at 22:52 (4,977 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Im completely lost......

could've sworn this thread was about Jon's new kitchen & new Beko machine, but since it's gone completely off topic i'll make it even worse.

Hi Paul,

I lived in 3 places whilst in Manchester (when i say Manchester i should really say Greater Manchester). First of all i was in Sharston, between Gatley and (sadly) Wythenshawe. It was actually quite a nice place. Had a Zanussi Jetsystem Excel Turbodry there (FJS1397W i believe).

Then moved into the City Centre and lived just behind Picadilly Station. Had integrated Teka appliances there, which i believe were Hoover/Candy but staggeringly never broke or burnt the appartment block down in the 6 months i was there.

Finally i bought my own place and moved out near where you are now. The house is on the Heywood/M62 side of Middleton. I rent it out now and am back down south, but i love my lil house, it's so well located for getting places, albeit not by public transport! May go back one day depending on how work pans out. The appliances that are left behind there and some that i brought back home with me are all Zanussi of varying ages. Can't get enough of Zanussi!

Liam


Post# 456391 , Reply# 45   8/12/2010 at 03:28 (4,977 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Liam

Hi Liam,

My God Wythenshawe,LOL. I use to live in Bramhall for quite some time, but split up with my partner.

Royton ok, bit bad for buses, but very quiet. I live on Broadway now.

Regards

Paul



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