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Frigidaire UK 1967 Spinner....Yay
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Post# 78527   8/15/2005 at 17:58 (6,819 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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"We are pleased to announce the finding of a 1967 Frigidaire Spin Dryer"....

I`ve been looking for this spinner for the last 5 yrs, made in 1967, Frigidaire, owned by General Motors, London, have been making spinners since the early 60`s. Of all the spinners I have come across this one has to be the most solid and superbly made.It has a cast iron cradle which would rival parts from some modern cars.

It takes a 6lb Load, has a bluey black Porcelain on Steel drum, mounted onto a large drum shaft, Belt driven motor revving at 2,850 rpm...this pulls 1132 G`s...

This model is the standard with gravity drain..the next model has an automatic timer up to 4 mins..the TOL is the Dri-Spin Pumpaway...you`ve guessed, a handy rubber hose to hook over sink and powerful belt driven pump.

It runs 230/250volts, AC only at 50 cycles, Consumption is 280 watts, 320 for pump model...

Running Costs=One shilling a year...Wow

Test 1: I lifted the hot soapy towels out of the washer, spun for 4 mins & spun out a bucket of water....

Test 2: Rinsed & Spun the towels in the MaytAsko at 1600rpm, then into the Frigidaire for 4 mins it spun an extra 4 fluid ounces of water out & saved 20 mins in the condensor dryer.

I was a happy camper this morning, had the Servis 100 Supertwin going for Boil Washing, Hoover 5054 Twinny for Rinsing, MaytAsko Set for Conditioner Rinsing & The "New to Me" Frigidaire for final spinning..

Now Thats Washday

Cheers, Mike




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Post# 78528 , Reply# 1   8/15/2005 at 18:00 (6,819 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Post# 78530 , Reply# 2   8/15/2005 at 18:07 (6,819 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Very cool - love the porcelain drum! It's too bad these never were popular over on this side of the pond. It's amazing you were able to get more water extracted from the load in the Asko at 1600 RPM...

Did you wear the heels and apron like in the ad photo? Wash isn't clean without them!


Post# 78536 , Reply# 3   8/15/2005 at 18:27 (6,819 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Killer Heels....!!!!

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Hi Greg

The only front loader I`d pitch against the Frigidaire is the 2,000rpm Gorenje....but I`m sure Frigidaire would win...

Frigidaire add campaigns (as well as most from the 60`s) always had Housewife in shoes & Apron....BUT:

The Frigidaire Mastertwin TwinTub is renowned for "Killer Heels" and had a certain cult following in (Ahem)Gentlemens Clubs, shall we say!!!


Post# 78545 , Reply# 4   8/15/2005 at 18:58 (6,819 days old) by pdub (Portland, Oregon)        
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Mike-

What a great find. I wish I could cut my drying time down like that. Isn't it great fun to find something you've been looking for, for a long time. Enjoy!

Patrick


Post# 78626 , Reply# 5   8/15/2005 at 23:18 (6,818 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Great Pics!
That Fridgidaire certainly extracted a lot of suds! I also noticed that it really squeezed the excess water out at a fast rate. You can see the quality of the parts, congrats on your acquisiton!


Post# 78629 , Reply# 6   8/16/2005 at 00:04 (6,818 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks Mike for the outstanding pictures. Sure doesn't look like a very big motor for that much power.LOL It would be so neat if we could buy one of those today. Can't believe how much water you got out of those three towels. Terry

Post# 78650 , Reply# 7   8/16/2005 at 05:52 (6,818 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Mike,
Thanks for the pictures of your Frigidaire Spin Dryer; the drum is not unlike the later Servis Super Twin spin drums.
I have never seen a Frigidaire Twin Tub how did they wash Mike?

All the best.
Hugh


Post# 78651 , Reply# 8   8/16/2005 at 06:19 (6,818 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Mike, that's a supercool spinner. First one I see with a black porcelain drum. Overhere porcelain was very rare. The cheaper ones overhere even had painted drums. The more expensive ones copper or stainless. Models with pumps were very rare, I know Bauknecht had one, but I've never seen one in real.

Post# 78666 , Reply# 9   8/16/2005 at 08:45 (6,818 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wow a Frigidaire Twin Tub no less. I had no idea they ever made them overseas. The spinner almost looks like it has a solid basket, leave it to Frigidiare!

Post# 78673 , Reply# 10   8/16/2005 at 09:13 (6,818 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Wow, a GM Frigidaire extractor?

And look at that...twinnies as well!! Did they use the 3-ring or Deep Action? ;-)

Where's the order form? I want both!!


Post# 78691 , Reply# 11   8/16/2005 at 10:59 (6,818 days old) by designgeek ()        

Way cool, congratulations!

Question: if you open the lid while it's running, does it only cut the power to the motor, or does it also apply a brake? And how long does it take to stop after the motor switches off in normal operation?

Also what about vibration? Or does the cast-iron base dampen it out so the machine doesn't scoot around on the floor if the load's out of balance? How does it handle offbalances?

Re. all the detergent foam squeezed out: notice any difference in the feel of the towels after that treatment? I'm thinking that even without an additional spin/rinse, getting the suds out that way could make things come out fresher-looking and cleaner-feeling over a number of weeks.

1132 Gs: Think of this: over one thousand times normal gravity. That means a load of six pounds is putting an outward force of six thousand pounds on that drum. (Don't tell anyone, but you can probably use it to enrich uranium, maybe not up to weapons grade, but probably up to fuel grade!:-)

I have to believe that there are built-in fail-safes in the design of these machines (i.e. the Frigidaire and similar models, and most of the TT spinners including modern Asian ones), so in the event of a bearing or brake seizure (as reported on the Paki model), some part of the internal framework breaks loose and spins along with, inside of the cabinet, so the cabinet itself doesn't sieze along with.

The cabinet might still spin around like a top, but at least it wouldn't be hard-coupled to whatever was loose inside. This could make the difference in terms of keeping any nearby injuries mild, e.g. bruises and bumps. (Though realistically we've only seen one single report of this kind of behavior, and everyone here knows of many spinners & TTs, so that's one out of hundreds, pretty good...)

I wonder if anyone's compared the performance of spinners to oldschool wringers. Test in both directions: wring first, then spin, and see if extra water comes out. Then the next load of similar material: spin first, then wring, see if any extra water comes out. This would be interesting to find out.



Post# 78752 , Reply# 12   8/16/2005 at 19:36 (6,817 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi all

Glad you enjoyed the pics, its a fab machine and one that will be in use for a fine number of years....

PATRICK: It sure does make a difference with the condensor dryer, even quicker with the vented Whirlpool


ALLEN: It really does fling the water out as its building up to top speed, 4 mins max all done, its a lot quieter than other models of the time.


TERRY:its that size thing again, did you notice the size of the belt on the motor, its like a car part, the biggest of any I`ve seen....Lol


HUGH: it does look like the later Supertwins, I got such a shock the irst time I saw a 111, had always been used to the MK1,2, & 3 with metal drums not porcelain. The wash action in the Frigidaire Twinny is like the Rolls, the pulsator disc on the bottom of the washtub,


LOUIS: Glad you enjoyed it, next time your visiting Manchester, come and try it yourself!!!, did not the old twinnies have these type tubs??


ROBERT: Almost a solid tub, a few holes in the base but vanes in the middle....The Frigidaire twinny was very popular in the 70`s, used a turbulator disc at the bottom.....AND wait for it there was even an automatic, see below!!!


AUSTIN:I`ll see what I can do !!! Wow..A Three Ring Agi in a twinny, now that would be something!! No agi just a small turbo disc off centre.


DESIGNGEEK: I`ll set up a test tomorrow afternoon with the Servis Compact Wringer machine...Place you bets now!!!




Post# 78807 , Reply# 13   8/17/2005 at 00:28 (6,817 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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No doubt about it, the spinner will get things dryer.

We hardly had twintubs overhere, except for the h-axis twintubs. And most of those had a stainless drum. The AEG h-axis though had a painted drum for a while. A grey one.


Post# 78872 , Reply# 14   8/17/2005 at 12:40 (6,817 days old) by designgeek ()        

I think the spinner will get the load more dry than the wringer also, but two trips through the wringer might produce a comparable result to one trip through the spinner. Just a wild guess. 1100 Gs is difficult to duplicate in any other way.

But it will be interesting to see how much water comes out of the spinner after the load has made one or two trips through the wringer.

Thanks for setting up the test case. I'll be looking forward to the results.


Post# 79050 , Reply# 15   8/18/2005 at 16:57 (6,816 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Testing Testing

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Had a fun morning doing a simple test of seeing what has the better water extraction, old time wringer or modern spinner...had a good idea what would win but surprised at some of the results...

TEST 1. Washed the same three towels I used in the Frigidaire the other day, (remember spun in the 1600rpm MaytAsko then into the Frigidaire, extracted further 4fl oz) passed these through the wringer once then spun them , produced 30fl oz.

TEST 2. Same towels washed, then passed through the wringer 3 times each but shook open the towels in-between and folded them 3 times before passing through wringer, into the spinner, produced 13fl oz.

TEST 3. Same Towels washed, passed through wringer 10 times each, shaking open & folding them and even wringing them to make them thicker through the wringer, into the spinner, this produced 6fl oz.

TEST 4. Emptied the washtub & rinsed the towels three times. Final rinse added small amount of Lenor Fabric Conditioner, passed towels through the wringer 3 times each, unfolding them and doubling them up like test 2. Into the spinner and produced 17fl oz, 2oz more than test two with soapy water...Hhmmm..

I always thought the Fabric Conditioner would have had an effect of dispelling MORE water not less.Must be the hot water v cold, .....

Recap:
TEST 1. = 30fl oz (soapy water)
TEST 2. = 15fl oz (soapy water
TEST 3. = 6fl oz (soapy water)
TEST 4. = 17fl oz (rinse water)



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Post# 79122 , Reply# 16   8/19/2005 at 00:09 (6,815 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Sure sounds like you had a fun time Mike, Boy those towels will be clean. I must say that they just sparkle, so white and bright. That Daz must really be great. Terry

Post# 750754 , Reply# 17   4/17/2014 at 18:47 (3,652 days old) by anthony (uk)        
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spinner uses the same bearing motor belts and pump as the mastertwin i worked on loads of these in the 70s also did a lot of the auto 50s as well the first Frigidaire spinner came out in 1959 inside it was exactly the same as the one above externally it was cream with a chrome handle and a grey rubber spout there were 4 variations altogether the last one having a clockwork delay mechanism on the lid stopping it from being opened untill fully stopped back in 1973 a new motor for one of these cosy £7 [and a fiew pence while a new bearing was about £19 for some reason the bearings on the round spidryer lasted better than the twintubs.I have to say the quality of the mastertwin was not good compared to its rivals Hotpoint Hoover Servis it was still better than the colston though .there was an earlier frigidaire twintub same spindryer but the washtub had an impellor on the bottom of the tub powered directly by a 1/4horse motor there was also an English Electric version that looked identical but wasnt inside the washtub impellor was driven by a second spin motor that wasnt up to the job and would burn out regularly exactly the same machine cosmetically but with 2 spin motors.The round spindryer spun at around 3000 RPM but at the time there was a Morphy Richards spinner on the market that went even faster 3500 RPM and was practically silent just a hiss as the water hit the inside of the metal cabinet .In the HCTroldhal
/Frigidaire showroom at newcastle there was a mastertwin with a cutaway cabinet and perspex wash and spin tubs so customers could see what went on inside the machine also a Frigidaire Jettamatic with cutaway cabinet facinating to watch .The Auto 50 was just a basic auto washer for the UK market [bear in mind in the early 70s the twintub was still king ]i think they sold quite well there was a second Frigi auto yes you guessed it it was the Auto 51 with its square door and chunky controls not quite as elegant


Post# 750760 , Reply# 18   4/17/2014 at 19:02 (3,651 days old) by anthony (uk)        
just remembered

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somthing else guys that you migh find interesting .early fabric softners were proved to cause rubber parts in machines to slowly disintegrate door collars and internal hoses would become sticky eventually failing almost as if melting this took quite a while but would happen inside the guarantee period i think the solution to the problem was to change the composition of the rubber which might explain why some rubber parts that were grey started to be produced in black .This only happend to the Frigidaire machines Hoover seemed to be ok


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