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Thread Number: 30213
Camera/Flashlight Inside My Dishwasher |
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| Post# 458225 8/21/2010 at 02:35 (4,996 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
So I unloaded the dishwasher and since there were no dirty dishes and it was all clean inside, I decided to grab my digital camera, put it inside 2 small zip lock bags and a flashlight inside a ziplock bag. I've always wondered what the wash action was like. I didn't think there would be much water pressure since these relatively new machines don't seem to have much.....I was pretty surprised.
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Post# 458232 , Reply# 1 8/21/2010 at 05:37 (4,996 days old) by retro-man  (- boston,ma) |
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interesting i have the same dishwasher and had no idea that there was that much force coming out of the jets. it does clean very well. thanks for the video. Jon | ||
| Post# 458240 , Reply# 2 8/21/2010 at 07:14 (4,996 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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No problem, it was pretty easy. Took like 5 min's to do......This dishwasher is definitely far from top of the line, but not very bottom of the line either. AT the time I bought it I think it was like 3 or 4 up from bottom of line. It is the quietest dishwasher I personally have ever had, but that's comparing it to older dishwashers that were LOUD....Based on how quiet it is, I didn't think there was that much pressure either. I was curious if my dishwasher looked like some of the vids I have seen on youtube where the spray jets were barely spraying anything. This is the tall tub dishwasher that has the smaller motor I think?? Based on what I've read on here.
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Post# 458250 , Reply# 3 8/21/2010 at 08:37 (4,996 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 458262 , Reply# 4 8/21/2010 at 11:41 (4,995 days old) by amyswasher () | ||
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I have a DU1100 Thanks the posting this. The inside looks just like this. | ||
| Post# 458291 , Reply# 5 8/21/2010 at 14:27 (4,995 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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I always thought that the wash arms move faster in a DW. | ||
| Post# 458334 , Reply# 6 8/21/2010 at 19:01 (4,995 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Post# 458337 , Reply# 7 8/21/2010 at 19:31 (4,995 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Mark, no spray poewr isn't diminished for the higher end models to achieve the more quiet aspect. they just add more insulation around the machine. My model even comes with a sound-dampening pad that is placed under the machine when it's installed. Made quit a difference because the original installer threw the pad out and I didn't know it existed until I read through the installation instructions after he left. Seers had to come back and bring the proper part and do it right.
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| Post# 458339 , Reply# 8 8/21/2010 at 19:40 (4,995 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Gotcha
But look at this video......This is pretty pathetic wash action.
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| Post# 458348 , Reply# 10 8/21/2010 at 21:12 (4,995 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Third computer??????? Really?
Damn............the only thing that has went wrong with mine in almost six years is the rinse aid dispenser leaks! So I didn't replace it I just stopped using rinse aid.....If I open the dishwasher door after it's done about 30 min's later everything is dry anyway. I was surprised but I really don't notice hardly any difference than when I used rinse aid and I have hard water. | ||
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Post# 458350 , Reply# 11 8/21/2010 at 21:17 (4,995 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 458358 , Reply# 12 8/21/2010 at 21:55 (4,995 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Post# 458360 , Reply# 13 8/21/2010 at 22:14 (4,995 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 458365 , Reply# 14 8/21/2010 at 22:34 (4,995 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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That would include me :)......I don't repair appliances. It's just that a lot of reading around forums on newer appliances and dishwasher talk; I have heard the term where the newer dishwashers merely pee on dishes as opposed to using high pressure etc. I guess reading things like that made me assume this was normal for some dishwashers. So you're saying there isn't enough water in his machine as in there could be a problem with his water pressure not filling the machine all the way as it should?
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Post# 458367 , Reply# 15 8/21/2010 at 22:53 (4,995 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 458373 , Reply# 16 8/21/2010 at 23:01 (4,995 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 The pump/macerator (on units that have them) also may get clogged with debris such as paper labels or excess/fibrous food residue, causing the pump to be starved for water. It may start out spraying OK due to water that has seeped into the pump through the debris during the fill period ... but once the pump starts running, the flow coming in isn't enough to keep it spraying at full force. | ||
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Post# 458439 , Reply# 19 8/22/2010 at 10:56 (4,994 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Rex, if you had read the posts from Glenn & myself, you would know there is definitely something wrong with that 2nd machine. It's either the water valve is semi-obstructed with debris and not allowing the full amount of water intended for a fill to occur, low water pressure on fills, or the pump is somewhat clogged with fibrous food or paper. It's a common problem the flimsy chopper in these machines braks and food debris accumulates and also keeps the machine from performing correct. I can tell you from experience it apparently can take several cycles to rid the soil collecting chamber of food soil if a load is particularly heavy. Case in point, when I was running all the stuff from my mom's kitchen (when their retirment apartment was shut down two years ago this coming December) that I got, I was running all the stuff through the dishwasher before I put it away after it was unpacked. Obviously just needing a very light wash. Howegver, every load (5) got run on Smart Wash and because the pump did a clean/purge phase during the pre-wash cycle as it's supposed to do when it senses heavy food soil, it defaulted to a heavier wash than I would have preferreed, but I did learn something about the dishwasher.
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Post# 458454 , Reply# 20 8/22/2010 at 12:01 (4,994 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Has anyone seen the Maytag clear tub display in stores years ago......finally a chance to see what happens inside....they need to bring this back as well as washers that operate in the stores, to see what happens before you buy.....
how many of us have cut plexiglass installed on our machines to see how they work?...... | ||
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Post# 458456 , Reply# 21 8/22/2010 at 12:32 (4,994 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Well, I don't use plexiglass but cling film... Certainly cannot complain about too low pressure - I regularly find small items (lids etc.) wedged into the cutlery basket in the sump after the cycle.
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| Post# 458461 , Reply# 22 8/22/2010 at 13:02 (4,994 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
I can tell you that the high end dishwasher use just as much force to clean your dishes as the louder models do. they use sound damping materials to make the unit quiter. the insulation you see on the outside of the tub (if you have ever installed one) is for absorbing sound not to keep the water hot. I used to work for Maytag in their dishwasher assembly plant in Jackson, TN til Whirlpool bought the Maytag corp. in 2006 then closed our plant in Aug. 2009 and moved all dishwasher production to Findlay, OH. I can also tell you that the stainless steel tub dishwashers are quirter than the plastic tub models. I have that is also fully intergrated which mean the buttons are across the top of you unit instead of the fornt that way small children can be pushing on them.
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| Post# 458519 , Reply# 24 8/22/2010 at 18:18 (4,994 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Rinse
I wonder if the reason my dishwasher is so healthy is for the simple fact I run citric acid and or vinegar through it periodically? I certainly do not use the dishwasher as a garbage disposal (although the Maytag cake commercial makes you think you can), but I do not pre rinse anything. About six months ago I heard a funny noise and it was a grinding sound......I thought something was going wrong because it usually grinds at the FIRST of the wash but in this case the grinding or funny humming sound started at like the middle of the main wash but it finally quit after a few cycles......
I wonder if your circuit boards went out three times due to lightning? My only complaint is the rinse aid dispenser. It leaks so I don't use it. I notice that almost all dishwashers use this exact same style detergent and rinse aid dispenser. No clue what caused mine to start leaking but several issues were found when I googled it | ||
| Post# 458521 , Reply# 25 8/22/2010 at 18:28 (4,994 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Oh.....if ever this dishwasher goes.......
I think my NEXT dishwasher will be this one in white. With the Whirlpool discount I can get it for around 385 dollars.....But I certainly am not going to replace a perfectly working dishwasher. I hope it lasts another six years but I doubt it will.
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| Post# 458532 , Reply# 27 8/22/2010 at 19:08 (4,994 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Speaking of the detergent cup......One thing very odd about mine is that when the cycle is done, the detergent cup pops open when opening the dishwasher to unload as if it's been closed the entire time, but you actually "hear" the detergent cup "pop open" when the wash cycle starts and there's nothing blocking it preventing it from opening. Never have a I seen a trace of detergent left on anything. I'm hearing it open during the wash but when I open the door it pops open? How strange is that. Oh well. It works
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| Post# 458536 , Reply# 28 8/22/2010 at 19:19 (4,994 days old) by amyswasher () | ||
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mine does that all the time Something blocking the door from opening all the way. It will open some of the way. The detergent will wash out and do what it is supposed to do. I think it is the silverware rack, I put it on the front, hooked on the bottom rack. | ||
| Post# 458542 , Reply# 29 8/22/2010 at 20:36 (4,994 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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nothings blocking it | ||
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Post# 458543 , Reply# 30 8/22/2010 at 20:39 (4,994 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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DISHWASHER PUMP AND MOTOR SIZE
While its often true that higher end machines have more insulation than cheaper models its not just insulation that makes the really quite machines quite. The really quite machines like WPs new series that has a filter have very small pumps and move much less water and have no grinder to dispose of chunks of food and get it out of the machine with every drain period. The new series is about as bad as the Frigidair machines and all the European machines. None of them come close to the ability to clean really dirty dishes and not smell bad in a few weeks. Unlike most of the machines we made over the last 30 years in this country.
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Post# 458548 , Reply# 31 8/22/2010 at 20:50 (4,994 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Mark your detergent dispenser | ||
| Post# 458566 , Reply# 32 8/22/2010 at 22:11 (4,994 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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detergent cup opening part way | ||
| Post# 458599 , Reply# 33 8/22/2010 at 23:53 (4,994 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 459245 , Reply# 35 8/25/2010 at 21:11 (4,991 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
Hey guys, been reading this thread with interest.
Can someone explain to me the workings and mechanics of the dishwashers that have the macerators built in and any pictures of these parts etc? I thought the macerator was the impellar on the drain pump side so that when the dishwasher pumped out the impellar of the drain pump shredded any waste? I thought these dishwashers still had the usuaul filters before the circulation wash pump as any waste getting through that would clog the jets of the wash arms? Or does it work differently? Does it have the usual filters in place to a dishwasher without a macerator? | ||
| Post# 459254 , Reply# 36 8/25/2010 at 21:51 (4,991 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 459262 , Reply# 37 8/25/2010 at 22:17 (4,991 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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| Post# 459274 , Reply# 38 8/25/2010 at 23:04 (4,991 days old) by amyswasher () | ||
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nope! Right behind the chopper is a metal screen, but nothing filtering under the wash arm filter. | ||
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Post# 459308 , Reply# 39 8/26/2010 at 07:00 (4,991 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 459420 , Reply# 40 8/26/2010 at 21:33 (4,990 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
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Very interesting. On the link where about is the drainage pump situated? Is that where the hole is directly to the right of the chopper?
What is to stop the chopper getting clogged with food matter if particles start to collect on the screen? Im confused as to what the fine filter on the top is for if large particles can get through to the chopper anyway? It seems like all water has to eventually take the same route down to the chopper anyway? | ||
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