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Post# 79534 8/22/2005 at 08:56 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch  (New York City, NY) |
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Took a weekend to go visit a friendd in his new summer place at lake Wallenpaupack in the Pocono Mountains, PA. It was my first time in a modular home (read: glorified trailer.) The house itself is two pieces that arrives on its own wheels, then is bolted together on the site and then attached to the utilities. Teh wheels are removed and it is moored to the earth , with a "skirt" added. It was actually a lovely large 3-bedroom home.
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Post# 79536 , Reply# 1 8/22/2005 at 09:00 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79537 , Reply# 2 8/22/2005 at 09:04 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79538 , Reply# 3 8/22/2005 at 09:07 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79541 , Reply# 4 8/22/2005 at 09:14 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79543 , Reply# 5 8/22/2005 at 09:18 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79544 , Reply# 6 8/22/2005 at 09:20 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79545 , Reply# 7 8/22/2005 at 09:21 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79546 , Reply# 8 8/22/2005 at 09:23 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79547 , Reply# 9 8/22/2005 at 09:25 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79548 , Reply# 10 8/22/2005 at 09:27 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79549 , Reply# 11 8/22/2005 at 09:30 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79550 , Reply# 12 8/22/2005 at 09:32 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79552 , Reply# 13 8/22/2005 at 09:35 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79553 , Reply# 14 8/22/2005 at 09:38 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79554 , Reply# 15 8/22/2005 at 09:40 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79555 , Reply# 16 8/22/2005 at 09:41 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79556 , Reply# 17 8/22/2005 at 09:45 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79557 , Reply# 18 8/22/2005 at 09:55 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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I spoke with he proprietor and gave him this website name and address and informed him of the market for such collectibles, and of course our predilection for automatic versions. Pending his approval I will post the contct info publically. In that area there is no bulk pick-up day for such large things, but there is a "Spring Clean-up Day" where the whole area dumps larger things. I will follow-up with him to see when that day occurs and to see if he got his hands on anything we would want. If anyone wants to get the tel # and address of this store now, write to me and I will dis-seminate. (sp?) | ||
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Post# 79558 , Reply# 19 8/22/2005 at 09:58 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79559 , Reply# 20 8/22/2005 at 09:59 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79561 , Reply# 21 8/22/2005 at 10:00 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79562 , Reply# 22 8/22/2005 at 10:01 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79563 , Reply# 23 8/22/2005 at 10:02 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79564 , Reply# 24 8/22/2005 at 10:03 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79566 , Reply# 25 8/22/2005 at 10:06 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79567 , Reply# 26 8/22/2005 at 10:07 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79568 , Reply# 27 8/22/2005 at 10:14 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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IMHO- And now for the most health-endangering appliance of them all. This house is all-electric which is a pricey energy cost but do-able in Pennsylvania. The elderly couple before the present owner added an UNVENTED propane-fired gas heater, to boost comofort and control costs. (Another reason may have been the baseboard-style electic heaters throughout have thermostats on the units themselves (right at floor level) making adjustments to temperature a PITA. I implored the owner to avoid using it and to get a vented heater instead. Next to the gas heater is a pre-packaged wood-burning fireplace with a heat recovery fan. 
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Post# 79569 , Reply# 28 8/22/2005 at 10:22 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Unvented Propane Gas Heater
Boo-hiss!!! Death by carbon-monoxide and water vapor(which leads to mold growth.) We wont even discuass the yellow film that will engulf eveything eventually. The 2 x 4 wooden studs behind it keep it away from flammable surgface. Come to think of it, metal here might make a bit more sense. LOL Actually I hope this heater was used only for black-out situations, but then what is wrong with the wood-burning fireplace for that? And yes, I could not wait to get home to central-air and WHITE switches and outlets, WHITE curtains, WHITE blinds WHITE mouldings, and WHITE appliances. Beige upon beige upon almond (appliances) upon wood-tones, upon paneling. OMG I can only take so much. LOL !!!!!! 
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Post# 79570 , Reply# 29 8/22/2005 at 10:26 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Beige upon beige upon wood upon brown upon... | ||
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Post# 79571 , Reply# 30 8/22/2005 at 10:26 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79572 , Reply# 31 8/22/2005 at 10:35 (6,821 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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Toggle, I don't live that far from the Poconos. It takes me about 30 minutes to get to Camelback Ski resort and the Crossings for shopping. I have gone camping up that way also. Those modular home are very popular in PA. My buddy lives close to many of the manufactures out in western PA.. IF you drive out route 80 towards Erie you will lots of them on the highway traveling eastbound being delivered. There are two new developments beigng built close to where I work for the 55 plus age group. Most of them have very nice spacious floor plans and here they are built on full basement foundations with a two car garage and large decks nice pictures. The GE looks like the same vintage as our first TL late 80's ours was the large capcity with the mini basket. Love those old wringer washers, were they just dumped out there or were they trying to sell them. Now they would be a restoration project. MikeO | ||
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Post# 79574 , Reply# 32 8/22/2005 at 10:42 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79575 , Reply# 33 8/22/2005 at 10:54 (6,821 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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I realy love the energy in PA. It is magical. Leave NY and NJ and you can FEEL it. My sister is in the New Hope/Newtown Pennsylvania area with access to Philadelphia. One day I will move there. Like everyone else I will start with a small summer home, then eventually make it my full-time residence, if all goes well. My brohter-in-law literally has corn-fields in his backyard and insists he is in the suburbs. He gets so irritated when we NY City-ites call it the country. (My sister just rolls her eyes at his words and stays silent. She sometime leaves the room to avoid bursting out laughing.) There are more coutnry crafts and junky shit "collectibles" per square mile than I have ever cared to see.... By my definition, if you dont have natural gas, "youz in the cuntry now!" . | ||
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Post# 79603 , Reply# 34 8/22/2005 at 14:49 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Modular homes
Interesting. Westchester County is a suburb north of New York City. Has ritzy secitons. Careful this link has sound. CLICK HERE TO GO TO toggleswitch's LINK | ||
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Post# 79610 , Reply# 35 8/22/2005 at 15:07 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79611 , Reply# 36 8/22/2005 at 15:10 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79612 , Reply# 37 8/22/2005 at 15:12 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79613 , Reply# 38 8/22/2005 at 15:15 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79635 , Reply# 40 8/22/2005 at 18:42 (6,820 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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I like that red chile rooster When I was but a wee one I was given a small easter chick that my then border collie Bob raised like a pup and followed him everywhere we went. He really was the cock of the walk. I had to get rid of him eventually because we lived in town and he would cock a doodle doo early in the morning and my folks thought the neighbors might complain.Also I don't think you were allowed to have fowl in the city. After we gave him to the parks childrens zoo all of a sudden the neighbors were asking where he went because they all loved to hear him in the mornings Very similar GE washer to mine,,but I have the extra large capy and mini basket, plus more programs. Modular vs Manufacturerd A modular home is for all intent a regular house built on a foundation and can be any style from a bungalow to a Colonial two storey, the walls, roof joists etc are preassembled in a factory and trucked flat to the property for quick assembly rather than building it from scratch on site. A manufactured home is the new name for trailer home. One or two complete shells wheeled to the site and joined. That's my story and I'm sticking to it LOL | ||
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Post# 79637 , Reply# 41 8/22/2005 at 19:12 (6,820 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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New Hope is not that far from me either. It is a very nice area to live in. A good number of our execs live down that way. My department director lives there with her partner. It has a growing gay population there. A very nice but exspensive community to live in. There are a lot of horse training and breeding farms down in Bucks county. You are right, there are a lot of country craft shops but there are nice restaurants, parks there. Yes Philly is close, but I prefer to go to NY any day. If you ever get down this way again let me know maybe we could get together Mike | ||
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Post# 79646 , Reply# 42 8/22/2005 at 20:06 (6,820 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 79693 , Reply# 44 8/22/2005 at 22:58 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Hi Hugh. Always a pleasure to read your responses/posts. PeteK. Our neighbors had a rooster too. From the way their grandma made faces when it was referred to after it was no longer there, I just knew it ended up in their freezer. A few weeks later when the young lady was ranting and raving about how fresh and tasty the chicken was that Sunday night, I saw the whole family look up to see the expression on my face. They read me and knew that I knew. I had to leave right away so as not to let on to the young lady. I didn't have the heart to tell her she just ate her pet. Mike: Sure, yes I'd love to meet. If you can swing a visit during a wash-in here, you are invited, otherwise will catch you in/near No Hope, er--- I mean New Hope. Bob: Be my guest to keep your card, with my blessing. I actually love beige and taupe. But damn...as Grandpa used to say "ALL things in moderation." The dishwasher is about 2 to 3 y.o and it's a WP platique with electronic controls. No tower. 3-way tableware rack that also mounts on door. I had that similar machine with a timer new in 1991. Mine started its life as a portable. To date my favorite DW. Chuck: For me with borderline asthma, vented versions of gas heaters are IMHO a better alternative for me. Is your regular heating source electric, or gas with electric controls? | ||
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Post# 79697 , Reply# 45 8/22/2005 at 23:14 (6,820 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 79749 , Reply# 46 8/23/2005 at 09:38 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79751 , Reply# 47 8/23/2005 at 09:39 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79752 , Reply# 48 8/23/2005 at 09:49 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79754 , Reply# 49 8/23/2005 at 10:29 (6,820 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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Post# 79755 , Reply# 50 8/23/2005 at 10:33 (6,820 days old) by westtexman (Lubbock, Texas) |
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Where do you get these pics???? Toggle, Pardon my ignorance, but I'm new here. Where did yiu get these pics? Are you a building inspector? I hate to sound like a snob, but I don't think I would want to live in some of those places. Gross! Tex | ||
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Post# 79756 , Reply# 51 8/23/2005 at 10:53 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Yup. I do inspect buildings as a commercial real-estate appraiser. Trust me, there are days when I have to change my clothing between visiting the buildings and going back to the office. If I have to take my work bag home, it goes in the trunk of the car so that the extreme heat (or cold) can kill any critters before I dare bring it into my home. Praise whoever it is you believe in that you don't live like that, and that you fully appreciate and understand the function of water as a universal solvent. (Cleaner) I do ok, but sometimes it is too much. One time someone had a big pit-bull chained to the wall in the central hallway, by the bedrooms and bathroom. I had to dodge "bombs" and puddles. The renter could not figure out why I was gagging. | ||
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Post# 79757 , Reply# 52 8/23/2005 at 11:00 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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SNOB? U R a wise man echoing the sentiment of 99% of the poplation. The rents vary. In NYC: Deregualted rents are market driven. Rent-stabilized rents are artificially low, but reasonable. They are raised in accordance with a formula and inflation. Rent-controlled rents are for peoplee who have been in continuous residence since circa 1947. Very ridiculously low $125 to $500 per month for two to seven rooms,some in VERY prime locations. The landlord does NOTHING (except supply heat, hot water, cold water and is not allowed to interrupt gas or electric services). Interstingly enough these people who basically live somewhere for free refuse to spend a dime fixing "not my place, I dont own it" or "that is the lanlord's responsiblity." Yes but you will be pulled out of there in a body bag, DO SOMETHING! UGH | ||
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Post# 79763 , Reply# 53 8/23/2005 at 11:59 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 79768 , Reply# 54 8/23/2005 at 12:16 (6,820 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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You have to wonder don't you. We run two property management companies, one for rentals, one for condo's and private homes people are renting out as investments waiting for prices to increase. All the buildings we manage are well maintained and most have a resident manager on site. Suites are painted, carpets shampooed etc after each rental yet you wouldn't believe the state some are left in when the tenant vacates, none quite as bad as Steves pics above, but pretty close. Being messy or untidy is one thing but down right filthy is something else and we get those once in awhile.You'd expect it a place like NYC or other large cities where there's a lot of poverty/slums but not here where there are no slums at all. Then they bitch because you won't give them back their security deposits...LOL
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Post# 79774 , Reply# 55 8/23/2005 at 12:59 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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I'm all for taking a $200 cleaning deposit and giving the tenants pics of what their place looked like upon their arrival. Should it not be the same or better upon their departure, in comes the cleaning service to "fumigate"... you know the ones you call after a flood or fire. LOL Why be servants to your tenants? | ||
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Post# 79776 , Reply# 56 8/23/2005 at 13:00 (6,820 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Clean fuel That ceiling would be just as dirty if it were an electric range. It's the cooking vapors, not the gas range, that makes kitchens like that. | ||
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Post# 79869 , Reply# 60 8/23/2005 at 21:45 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Ok. let's split the difference. A gas oven has to have an exhaust vent to allow products of combustion to leave so that fresh oxygen-laden air can get in to support the gas combustion flames. Perhaps from the vent on a gas stove all of this muck comes out and pollutes the kitchen so. An electic oven has a much much smaller vent (1" round hole with a mesh cover) and basically only for moisture and pressure build-up prevention. Went to Florida (where most cooking is electric) and saw many many popcorn ceilings, even in the kitchen. I asked about how those get painted. My freinds were ina 25 y.o. house and they said the ceiling had never been had never been painted. (They actually asked why you'd paint a ceiling!!!) Now, in the house I grew up in with gas cooking, and there was an exhaust fan that was over the stove. It was "on" most of the time. The room needed to be painted every 5 years, even with thorough scub-downs and degreasing twice per year. ....And my mother did not fry anything. Broil, roast, bake, braise or simmer. | ||
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Post# 79899 , Reply# 63 8/23/2005 at 22:24 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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gas/electric changeover "We changed over to an electric stove when I was about 8" Why was there a switchover? Was it a fixed heat range or an infinite heat range? And how did your Mom adjust to cooking on it? Did she have any trouble? | ||
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Post# 79944 , Reply# 65 8/24/2005 at 03:06 (6,819 days old) by petek (Ontari ari ari O ) |
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Post# 79950 , Reply# 66 8/24/2005 at 06:51 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Was the change-over to get a self-cleaning oven? They were made electric decades before being availavble in gas. BTW => glass-top / smooth-top/ vitro-ceram electrics blow coil units out of the water when it comes to looks, convenience, and IMHO cooking ease. Also, I believe the heat is distributed better to the cooking vessel. | ||
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Post# 79951 , Reply# 67 8/24/2005 at 06:55 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Around here (in gas cooking land) kitchens were painted yellow for years. Bright and cheery, and yellow film on yellow shows up less. Perhaps this is why one-foot tall soffits came down off the ceiling to which cabinets were mounted. Not only from an ergonomics perspective of keeing the cabinets in range of reach, but a smooth wall is easier to clean than cabinets. | ||
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Kenmore1978, One of my mom's sisters had an electric range and loved it. My mom thought it would be easier to clean and of course it was. She took to it right from the start. Loved the fact that you could control the burner heat easier. Terry | ||
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Post# 79992 , Reply# 69 8/24/2005 at 11:24 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 80000 , Reply# 70 8/24/2005 at 11:57 (6,819 days old) by parunner58 (Davenport, FL) |
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I have also heard the same story, that gas stoves were easier to cook on than electric. My grandmother in the early 50's had her Kitchen re-done and had an electric sotve put in with the deep-well and two ovens. My mom told me she hated that stove and it was the last electric she had. My mom always had gas I learned to cook on them and up until 1984 I always had a gas stove. When we bought our house I did not care what was in it as I was planning on replacing it if needed. The house came with a mid to late 70's electric GE P7 self-cleaning range. I had no problem using it, never burned anything and used it the same way I did the gas stove. I heard stories from people i know that switched to electric, of always starting out on high and burning, boiling over and totaly destroying food. I never had a problem. I have progressed to the smooth top and yes they are fantastic. I never use the hi heat unless I am heating water to boil pasta. I know that to cook potatoes I can set the left front burner on #6 and never get a boilover and keep checking for doneness in 20 minutes. It is easy to learn the characteristics of the surface usits and which pot or pan works well on each one. They clean up just like wiping off your countertop. The never ovens do not self clean as well but its still better than easy-off and elbow grease. A GE repair guy told me becasue of the govermental safety rules, the glass doors can only get so hot so they had to lower the temperature of the selfcleaning feature. LIke any machine you have to adapt to the characteristics of the type of stove you are using. I have it here at work with computers. People get intimidated by a new computer and the first time something does not go thier way, the computer is junk and they are no good. They tend to be that way with thier appliances also. Mike | ||
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Post# 80001 , Reply# 71 8/24/2005 at 12:06 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Cooking on electric is just like cooking on gas IMHO- Start on high, till something boils or sizzles. Then switch to medium. Come back in 2 to 3 minutes and adjust up or down from there. VOILA. Oh and yes, I agree with Mike once you know which food go on what number and on which surface element on an electric model, it is all very easy. Oh and I DO cheat by the way, my new set of flat-bottomed pots have a glass cover.. I get to see the action. I personally would never go back to gas again. | ||
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Post# 80002 , Reply# 72 8/24/2005 at 12:10 (6,819 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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IMHO those who say they hate electric have never had it. My 75 y.o. grandmother-in-law (who had gas cooking in NYC for 30+ years) retired in a place with electric cooking. She went from electric (for many years) to propane when her first stove died. Reason cited: Blackouts. She hated it so much that she quickly went back to electric. Reasons cited: Faster Cooler Safer Cleaner (to kitchen) Cleaner (Easer to keep the stove itself clean.) Not my opinion..hers. | ||
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Post# 80049 , Reply# 75 8/24/2005 at 16:46 (6,818 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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...I must admit, I too have a gas stove as well for black-outs and for guest chefs who come over to help and have never used electric. Then of course gas has other advantages, such as being able to handle odd or large or uneven-bottomed pots. Or for reducing jucies from a roasting pan right in the pan....or for preheating a covered granny roaster (oval, black procelain speckled). But the best one is..... survey says.... [and this one proves my mother is anal retentive.....] to singe the hairs/feathers off of a chicken or turkey, right in the flame. Does it get better than that? | ||
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