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Madam, I like the white one, but do you have something more colorful?
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Post# 79585   8/22/2005 at 13:06 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Why yes sir, we do.






Post# 79587 , Reply# 1   8/22/2005 at 13:06 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Perfect

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I'll Take It!

Post# 79588 , Reply# 2   8/22/2005 at 13:07 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
YAY for Turquoise

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Yes here is my latest find, another 1958 GE Filter-Flo but this one is in Turquoise.



Post# 79589 , Reply# 3   8/22/2005 at 13:10 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Now this is interesting, the White machine has a Pink Tub Ring and the Turquoise machine has Gray Tub Ring??? If you look closely at the picture on the wall hanging above the White 58 GE, itís an advertisement for this machine but in Pink. It too has the Gray Tub Ring???

I wonder if the Pink Tub ring was only available for the White machines or if the Pink Tub ring was a mid-production change????? Maybe something else, I have no idea. It sure is interesting to wonder about though.


Post# 79590 , Reply# 4   8/22/2005 at 13:12 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
And before I forget

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Here is the automaticwasher.org MANDATORY new washer find interior shot!

Post# 79591 , Reply# 5   8/22/2005 at 13:13 (4,473 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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What is going on? Is there something in the water? The full moon? Why are all these machines sufacing now?

Post# 79592 , Reply# 6   8/22/2005 at 13:14 (4,473 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Robert,
Congratulations on your beautiful turquoise GE Filter Flo.
I wish you good health and many happy lint free wash loads.

All the best.
Hugh


Post# 79597 , Reply# 7   8/22/2005 at 13:59 (4,473 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Robert, what can I say, another treasure saved. Details please. It is just beautiful. Terry

Post# 79599 , Reply# 8   8/22/2005 at 14:13 (4,473 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Cool, Robert! Are you going to keep the white one for parts or try and keep both machines up & running? I like the grey/ pink agitator top on the white machine better than the black one on the turquoise. Maybe soon a 57 filterflo will surface and you can match up your 57 dryer. I thought it was interesting that GE put the timer knob on the left side for that one year.
Les


Post# 79600 , Reply# 9   8/22/2005 at 14:14 (4,473 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        
When it rains it pours!

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Two turquoise machines in one month! This is exceptional, isn't it? Congrats! I wonder what your next treasure will be.

Post# 79601 , Reply# 10   8/22/2005 at 14:14 (4,473 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Did it come with it's copper filter pan?

Post# 79602 , Reply# 11   8/22/2005 at 14:19 (4,473 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
Dispenser

Robert is that a manualmatic dispenser? Lid or user
activated?
Multiple load storage?


Post# 79604 , Reply# 12   8/22/2005 at 14:51 (4,473 days old) by Pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Swooning

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Oh My Gawd!!!!! Toooooo nice. Congratulations on a great find. All I can say is we must be doing something wrong down here, as these babies never seem to turn up in the southeast.
Lawrence


Post# 79606 , Reply# 13   8/22/2005 at 14:54 (4,473 days old) by Mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        
I want one too!

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Very beautiful. Love the raised control panel on both of your machines. That is super.

Steve


Post# 79614 , Reply# 14   8/22/2005 at 15:23 (4,473 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Today's catch-of-the day is.....................

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Just Fabulous!
Where does your luck come from? (or is it perserverance?)
Details on the dispenser please!


Post# 79616 , Reply# 15   8/22/2005 at 15:33 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi everyone and thanks. Here are the details so far, the new turquoise machine has two main problems. The first is a broken fill inlet water flume hose which I suspect made for quite a flood which probably took the machine out of service years ago. The second is not so obvious to a common user, but the anti-indexing pawl has broken and causes the tub to rotate during agitation about 45 to 50 rpm. This speed is fast is enough to throw some of the water over the top of the tub, but since itís a Filter-Flo GE, the water is brought back into the tub, but still a spinning wash tub cuts out a lot of wash action. The other issue is the pump is not pumping the Filter-flo water stream fast enough to get it all in the filter pan, the rubber diverter flap in the pump is worn, but I have a few of those rubber flappers in stock so thatís and easy fix.

The biggest challenge will be the transmission. 99% of that transmission is made out of metal, but for some strange reason GE decided to make the anti-indexing pawl out of plastic. Every GE washer I have ever seen made from 1955 thru 1959 had the same problem of a broken pawl and the tub turning during wash. In 1960 when they changed to the KER-Clunking brake transmission the pawl was eliminated as the brake now prevented the tub from turning during the wash and it worked really well. The earlier GE models with the double pulley (like my really old 1951 GE to the right of the white í58 GE) had the anti-index pawl on the outside of the tranny and it was made of rubber and also worked really well. It was really just a problem with the 55-59 GEís. When I was at the Aberdeen Appliance Graveyard five years ago I stripped a few GE washers from that time period and saved the transmissions. I was able to take a 1960 Brake transmission and use it in my White 58 GE so that machine works great.

So hereís the deal, if I can find one of the farm transmissions, that I saved, has a good pawl and works fine, I will be able to save both washers. If I cannot, I will take the best parts and make one good Turquoise machine. I hope I can save both and find the white machine a good home, but I really donít know. We will see.

Both white and turquoise machines originally came with a Pink Filter Mount and copper filter pan. The White machine has a replacement gray filter mount that I put on there last year and a copper pan. At some point in the life of the Turquoise machine the filter mount was changed to a black modern mount which takes the later style GE Filter-pans used from 1960-1995.

As for the pink dispenser in the front-left hand corner thatís a one-shot fabric softener dispenser which I love. It uses the incoming rinse water to flow thru the dispenser to overflow the softener into the wash basket. Before you fill the dispenser you need to press the pink button to drain the dispenser tray of clear rinse water before you fill it for the next wash.

Iíll start taking this machine apart tonight and I will take some restoration pictures for all to see. I bet some Appliancevillersí who have worked on later perforated tub GEís will find the solid basket machines similar but with some major differences.


Post# 79619 , Reply# 16   8/22/2005 at 16:37 (4,473 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Hi Robert,
I look forwaard to seeing the restoration pictures, I love to see the workings of these great American Top Loaders.
Happy restoring.

All the best.
Hugh


Post# 79621 , Reply# 17   8/22/2005 at 16:41 (4,473 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Robert, very interesting about the anti-indexing pawl. That's what went out in my mom's 59. The tub would spin so fast during agitation that the activator made hardly any contact with the water & clothes. I definitely like the original style filter mount. The post 1960 mount just looks so wrong on these machines. Our old 59 had the aqua-turquoise colored mount, same shape as the grey one on your white 58.

Post# 79622 , Reply# 18   8/22/2005 at 16:43 (4,473 days old) by geoffdelp (Foley, Minnesota)        

Oh boy, Robert ... THAT'S BEAUTIFUL!! What a great color!

Thanks for the obligatory interior shot; those are always so fun to look at!!! :-)

Your white one is a quiet machine (if I remember right ... or were there so many running at once that I couldn't hear!!).





Post# 79628 , Reply# 19   8/22/2005 at 17:45 (4,473 days old) by drmitch ()        
F I L T E R F L O

Another beautiful machine finds a good home! My inspiration to keep looking!

Post# 79629 , Reply# 20   8/22/2005 at 17:45 (4,473 days old) by GEExtraRinse (New York City, NY)        
YAY!!!!

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Great find Robert - its beautiful! - I'm so jealous!

Good for you - I look forward to the first restored wash pics!

Matt


Post# 79633 , Reply# 21   8/22/2005 at 18:30 (4,473 days old) by Pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Tub Ring

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Robert - interesting observation about the pink tub ring in your white model. I have a collection of Filter-Flo advertisements from this period - two showing pink '58s, one turquoise '58, and one yellow '58 - and none of the machines featured have the pink ring, all are grey (no photos of a white machine). I also have one ad for a '57 Filter-Flo, pink washer, and it appears to have the grey ring also. Good luck breaking the code on this one!
Lawrence


Post# 79642 , Reply# 22   8/22/2005 at 19:58 (4,473 days old) by bethann (Indianapolis)        
Pretty!

Your such a lucky dog! Love the color! OK, What's the scoop? I bet you were driving down the road and looked over and there it sat loaded on a flat bed w/ a lift and they brought it to the house for ya and unloaded it! I'm really starting to think that is the way your luck runs! So, what's the lottery numbers this week? LOL! Great find!

Post# 79652 , Reply# 23   8/22/2005 at 20:22 (4,473 days old) by westytoploader ()        
YAY for Solid-Tub Filter-Flos!!!!

Congratulations--extremely nice machine!!!!

If you decide not to keep both, I'm sure you'll find plenty of willing homes for the white '58, including this one!! ;-)

Although you already gave me a wonderful Unimatic...so nothing serious! ;-)


Post# 79657 , Reply# 24   8/22/2005 at 21:06 (4,473 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Incredible machine, it looks like in mint condition! Nice dry Denver basement no doubt. Those are really the best softener dispensers ever!

Post# 79681 , Reply# 25   8/22/2005 at 22:33 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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OK, What's the scoop? I bet you were driving down the road and looked over and there it sat loaded on a flat bed w/ a lift and they brought it to the house for ya and unloaded it! .

Hi Bethann, not quite. I've known about this machine for over a year now, a nice woman from Denver had email me about it a while back. She was finally ready to give it up so I shipped it and it arrived last Friday. I was thinking about taking a drive out to Denver to pick it up, but with Beltman shipping being so reasonable I figured I would just have it shipped.


Post# 79683 , Reply# 26   8/22/2005 at 22:36 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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OK Here are some more pictures and inner workings of a late 1950's solid basket GE.

In this first shot looking in from the rear of the machine you can seem some similarities to the later style GE's, but the motor is mounted in the center and the pump is completely different. Also the boot is clamped to the outer side of the outer tub, in the later machines to boot is clamped on the inside of the outer tub.


Post# 79684 , Reply# 27   8/22/2005 at 22:37 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Check out the Pump

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The pump is mounted directly to a hole in the bottom of the outer tub! No tub to pump hose needed here.

Post# 79686 , Reply# 28   8/22/2005 at 22:40 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Now with the top removed you can see the upper parts of the water and dispenser systems. You can see how that pink button in the dispenser raises that flap that allows the clear rinse water to drain out of the dispenser tray and down into the outer tub.

Post# 79687 , Reply# 29   8/22/2005 at 22:40 (4,473 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
oh that Turqoise!!

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It's a beauty Robert! I see you hung a picture of my pink '58 GE complete with it's advertising above your machines. We should have all of them together for a pastel tea party.... here in Canada I think.... eh

Eddy


Post# 79688 , Reply# 30   8/22/2005 at 22:43 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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That would be fabulous Eddy! What color is your tub balance ring on your pink '58 Eddy, gray or pink?

Post# 79691 , Reply# 31   8/22/2005 at 22:53 (4,473 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        
pink dear

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It's a lovely pink. I'll show her inside for all to see.

Post# 79694 , Reply# 32   8/22/2005 at 22:59 (4,473 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Thanks Eddy!

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Fabulous! So they did use the pink on other color machines besides white, that means it probably was a mid year production change.

Post# 79722 , Reply# 33   8/23/2005 at 06:07 (4,472 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Yes from what I remember

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growing up in GE town the PInk ring was used in all 1958 machines and I think a turquoise ring was used in all 1959 machines with turquoise cap and filter holder. I bet that grey ring means early production. Nancy Smith bought her 1958 in spring and it was delivered in June and it had a pink ring. Her 1953 GE was spurting oil all over the clothes so it had to go out, but it was SOO cool because I had never seen a GE with a white tub before!

I'll be out to do turqoise wash! Its georgeous!

jet


Post# 79728 , Reply# 34   8/23/2005 at 07:35 (4,472 days old) by JerseyMike ()        
Wow!

What a wonderful find. :)

That's my all time favorite appliance color!

Thanks for sharing.

Mike


Post# 79732 , Reply# 35   8/23/2005 at 07:55 (4,472 days old) by Spiraclean (UK)        
Very Interesting

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Hi Robert,
Thank you for the great pictures. The GE Filter Flo looks quite similar to the UK Hotpoint Top Loader except the GE has a Vitreous Enamel outer tub whereas the UK Hotpoint has a plastic outer tub. The GEís motor is quite different too.

All the best.
Hugh


Post# 79734 , Reply# 36   8/23/2005 at 08:09 (4,472 days old) by westyslantfront (Tucson, Arizona)        

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Hi Robert. Beautiful machines. I like the pink tub ring. They really knew how to make machines in those days. And also real agitators, not those dual action agitators of today.

Post# 79748 , Reply# 37   8/23/2005 at 09:34 (4,472 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Thanks for the pics, Robert. Now I know what my old 59 looked like inside. Please keep the photos coming as you work on the machine. I love the all-pink activator cap and filter ring on Eddy's. Actually the tub ring on my 59 was a white wire-type mounted below the top part of the spin basket which was black with white specs. The agitator cap & filter ring were the same design as Eddy's only turquoise as was the rubber gasket around the filter-flo spout.

Les


Post# 79789 , Reply# 38   8/23/2005 at 15:47 (4,472 days old) by westytoploader ()        

For some strange reason GE decided to make the anti-indexing pawl out of plastic...

Knowing what GE makes today, I wouldn't consider that reason "strange"...it seems that the "Plastic GE" has been around longer than we thought! ;-)

*Ducks and runs*


Post# 79792 , Reply# 39   8/23/2005 at 16:09 (4,472 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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**WOW** I cannot believe your luck Robert!!!!!!! XD

Post# 79800 , Reply# 40   8/23/2005 at 16:43 (4,472 days old) by lesto (Atlanta)        

Now Austin, musn't bash solid tub GE's. It's not too late for you to get a birthday spanking with a copper filter flo pan.

Post# 79819 , Reply# 41   8/23/2005 at 18:31 (4,472 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        

Robert,
This machine is beautiful!
I am so happy that you were able to get it. I think it it wild that the lady that contacted you, held onto it for so long. Did she say if it was her first automatic washer? I am sure that she is pleased that you have it. It sounds like she really was attached to it. Memories I am sure. Washing her babies clothes in it and such.
I hope that it is a easy fix for you. I know you know these machines inside - out. I just hope that you are able to keep both this one, and your white one working. They are both in such wonderful shape.
What were the issues with the white GE that you have, when you first got it? Also, do you have, or had the matching dryer also to your white one? I thought that I remembered you having the matching dryer for some reason.
Thanks for the pictures! It will be so much fun to see you bring it back to life!
Brent


Post# 79822 , Reply# 42   8/23/2005 at 18:45 (4,472 days old) by Compwhiz128 ()        

What you should do is put the pink tub ring into the turqoise machine so it matches the filter-flo nozzle and agaitator cap

Post# 79903 , Reply# 43   8/23/2005 at 22:30 (4,472 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Hi Brent, the White GE had the same spnning during wash activation problem that the turquoise machine has. As for the dryer that was a 1957 model, I sold that last year and it now resides in Kentucky.




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