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Post# 462927   9/12/2010 at 06:59 (4,946 days old) by ultimafan ()        

A lovely digital machine of the New Generation era, currently on eBay.

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Post# 462929 , Reply# 1   9/12/2010 at 07:21 (4,946 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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I would like to have this, but cant.

Please some one on here save her.


Post# 462932 , Reply# 2   9/12/2010 at 07:57 (4,946 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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I got screwed over by someone on ebay with one of these beautys. They wouldn't Deliver it to me for a month! That was not agreed!! I only bought it as it was the otherside of Country and they said they could courier it!

There is however an A-OKAY one on ebay near me that I am eyeballin at present.

Darren


Post# 462953 , Reply# 3   9/12/2010 at 10:08 (4,946 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Nice Microtronic,

Wil be going for it already having the other New Generation machines.

Already have on the of 9554 Microtronics that we were given off Gary last year. Now in full working order and fettle.

The 9554 was one of the last ones made and were not New Geneartion machines. They are from 1988-90.
Quite a few of these still out there and seems to be the Microtronics that turn up on ebay the most frequent.



Post# 462981 , Reply# 4   9/12/2010 at 10:33 (4,946 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Bosch Maxx 5

Wow cool machine. My other half wont allow any other machines in the house, :-(.

I have now managed to sell my Bosch Maxx 5 at the weekend. In a way was sort of sorry to see her go, but she was only 8 months old and very happy with my Miele HomeCare.

Paul


Post# 462984 , Reply# 5   9/12/2010 at 10:37 (4,946 days old) by ultimafan ()        
The 9554 was made around 1989-1990

There was one more Microtronic after the 9554 (apologies for the spelling mistake above), in the form of the 9555, which looked a little weird as it had the redesigned flush door and new style drum, released in 1991-1992. This was definately the last Microtronic, as the successor to this particular model series, the 9556 was a 1200 Microprofile with a vacuum LCD display as opposed to the large black displays of the rest of the range.

Here is the 9555. I can't find the 1200 Microprofile 9556 pic I'm afraid.


Post# 462990 , Reply# 6   9/12/2010 at 10:41 (4,946 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Ultimafan! I have that pic of the 9555 too. I love this model! I was a big fan of that door and newer drum!

If only I could find one. Or a spin-slider model that isn't a million miles away!

D


Post# 463019 , Reply# 7   9/12/2010 at 13:40 (4,945 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Microprofile.

Ultimafan Paul and myself have one of these, the very first model - 9560 made in 1986.

Despite it saying its top speed is 1300rpm, it is actually 1400rpm.

The firts UK built machine to beat 1100rpm and was the fastest spinning UK built machine until 1995/6 IIRC.





Post# 463028 , Reply# 8   9/12/2010 at 14:11 (4,945 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Paul has collected the Microtronic off ebay this evening.

Needs a bit of work but will scrub up nicely though.



Post# 463029 , Reply# 9   9/12/2010 at 14:21 (4,945 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Lucky Guys.

I hope you manage to fix the leak and that it's nothing to serious. I hope there will be photos! lol.

The TOL Hoover New Wave span at 1500rpm in 1994. I had a utlima WM43 made in 97 and was disapointed to find 1400rpm lasted all of 30-40seconds after a long 1000rpm spin. Other than that it was great. My Hoover Neww Wave Washer/dryer from the same year on the other hand span for 2-3 minutes at top speed.

Rob can you confirm/deny that the microprofile 9560 span at 1400 for a short time too?

Darren




Post# 463031 , Reply# 10   9/12/2010 at 14:34 (4,945 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        
Our understanding is

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The Newwave 1500 was not in the 1994 brochure with that era having 1300rpm as the fastest machine.

In the 1995 brochure was the 1500rpm in white only.

The 9560 spins at 1400rpm for around 1 minute IIRC but that still does not deflect the fact it was the UK's first machine to beat 1100rpm, and by some years at that maintaining the fastest speed over production periods.



Post# 463033 , Reply# 11   9/12/2010 at 14:46 (4,945 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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It was late 94 early 95 then. I've a migrane so perhaps my memory is tainted. I had wondered as to how long it span for as I didn't no if it was just later models like mine that span for 30-45seconds.

I love a chrome door on a machine its a fantastic look. I love the massive chrome door on my LG.

Is the micrctronic you've just aqquired a Low-energy model? I have just got a 1991 Which magazine which has the stats for the 9554 model. It didn't do bad at all.

Darren


Post# 463039 , Reply# 12   9/12/2010 at 15:14 (4,945 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya Darren.

Collected the 95842 and got back about 40mins ago, so only had a quick look in very poor light.

It does leak and will need a thorough tidy up but, fingers crossed, should look splendid when done.
Wont apply any sidestrips to it until the machine is formly planted in a new home - far too fragile, if being moved.

Will have a go at cleaning it up tomorrow and let you know whats what with it.

Yep - it is an 'L.E' model, as were all the top end Hotpoints in the form of the 96700/702 top loader, 95840/842 Microtronic and 95620/622 variable 1000.
All the machines below the 95620/622 were standards.



You should go for that 9554W! Dont be put off by appearances, as most (though not all) will come off with some elbow grease.

Rob mentioned out 9554A. This machine was courtesy of Gary (electron1100) and was took to the tip where he works.

After undergoing a total drum transplant - outer and inner - it works very nicely, though will need new bearings in the future.
The original drum was totally 100% seized solid, hence the drum replacement.
Piccy of the 9554A below (if anyone knows of a source of Almond touch up paint, please let me know).

Cheers
Paul
p.s its had a new lid since the piccy was taken.
If anyone get the opportunity to salvage decent Hotpoint 95 lids, i would recommend that they take it. 95 lids dont tend to survive, without being battered and bruised.


Post# 463040 , Reply# 13   9/12/2010 at 15:17 (4,945 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

facia of the 95842...

Post# 463041 , Reply# 14   9/12/2010 at 15:18 (4,945 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Hotpoint Top Speed Spin Duration

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Hello Rob and Darren as fas as i can remember the Micropofile 1400s could only peak at 1400 rpm for no more than 12 seconds as the motors were prone to burning out as at this speed the motors were spinning at 21000 rpm! perhaps if they had used a Hoover motor the machines could have maintained there top speed a bit longer

Gary


Post# 463043 , Reply# 15   9/12/2010 at 15:27 (4,945 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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LOL Gary

Ow are ya?

Them OOvahs have got to yer head. Nowt but quality up made up North Wales ya know.

Honestly though ya cheeky sod (LOL) our 9560 certainly did around a minute if not more and a video of a later Microprofile on youtube times it to be around 50 seconds.

Anyways its not the duration its is about the speed record being broken and in 1986 Hotpoint did it 8 YEARS BEFORE OOOOOvah.

Same old story aint it LOL. 1971 and Hotpoints 1600 doing 1100rpm 7 years before Hoover caught up. He whom dares wins lol.

Yeah you stick wiv ya OOOvahs mate, nice and slow for ya.

LOL

:) :)


Post# 463044 , Reply# 16   9/12/2010 at 15:35 (4,945 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Not to be picky

But didn't the Creda Micron spin at 1250rpm? IIRC these debuted around 1982ish? Didn't the microprofile come out about the same time as the 1300rpm Logic as well? Maybe the logic was a year later?

I'd love to use one of those Hotpoints, very modern for the time with the innovative programme options, must have cost a small fourtune though!

The microtronics are lovely looking machines...everyone round here was too cheap to have such an expensive machine *LOL* an 800rpm Hotpoint with no softner dispenser was about as high end as it got on our street.

Matt


Post# 463045 , Reply# 17   9/12/2010 at 15:41 (4,945 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Yes Matt,

Quite right.

I had not thought about the Creda Micron, just shows how popular they were lol.

Ok lol. 1st machine to beat 1250rpm lol.


Post# 463046 , Reply# 18   9/12/2010 at 15:42 (4,945 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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Oh yes.

The Logic 1300 was out in 1987.



Post# 463048 , Reply# 19   9/12/2010 at 15:56 (4,945 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Strange about the 1300/1400 thing

Is there any particular reason we know of why they put 1300 on the dispenser but it actually spins at 1400? Haven't watched the video of yours in a while but IIRC it even says 1400 on the display?

Seems rather bizarre!


Post# 463144 , Reply# 20   9/12/2010 at 23:41 (4,945 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Strange about the 1300/1400 thing

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Well Matt i would think Hotpoint just bought up a job lot of displays from a surplus supplier to help keep costs down ;-)

Post# 463169 , Reply# 21   9/13/2010 at 05:49 (4,945 days old) by ultimafan ()        
Congratulations Paul and Rob...

On an acquasition of such a great machine, despite the fact that I thought it was a 95840 and not a 95842 as I
thought the machine was white and not almond! Also your 9554A looks great too.

Your Microprofile 9560 is a superb machine, a real favourite of mine, rather smart and span at a great speed when first produced in 1986.

However I think the Microprofile did spell the demise of the Microtronic, with its large digital display and having a top
speed of 1400 compared to the 1000 on the Microtronic. I can sort of see why Hotpoint ended up discontinuing the range
by bringing out a 1200 9556 Microprofile in its place.

There is a video on Youtube which highlights the spin of the Microprofile, it is a 9566, released in 92 I think, and it spins at 1000 and ramps up to 1400 for about half a minute before finishing the spin, never got the reason why, but Hotpoint must have
done it for a reason.

Never did know why the 9560 was renowned as a 1300 machine despite having a spin of 1400, Hotpoint could have increased
its value by £50, a fast spin for the eighties.

@hoover1100 lol we had an 800rpm Hotpoint with no softner dispenser. But I thought the Creda Micron came out around late
80's and early 90's, perhaps there was more than one model. It's spin of 1250rpm was still pretty high.


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Post# 463208 , Reply# 22   9/13/2010 at 13:18 (4,944 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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The very fast spins 1000 up to 1400 is achieved by field tapping, which means the controller switch off half of the windings with in the motor, this increases the speed but generates a massive amount of heat. So it’s a short sharp shot of speed with the motor running at maximum voltage. Any longer and the sweet smell of burning.

Which is also why this type of machine should not be put on a spin with out the belt on and a load in the drum, as the motor will out-run it’s self with disaster and destruction of the armature.

Picture of a Hotpoint motor with field tapping, seven wires instead of six.


Post# 463224 , Reply# 23   9/13/2010 at 15:32 (4,944 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
'the motor will out-run it’s self with disaster and dest

tell me about it Lee!

The FHP motor, originally in the 9560 blew cause we did just what you described we shouldnt.
The effect was spectacular, starting with a lot of crackling, closely followed by disintegration of the armature with bits flying out of the motor casing. Dont ever want to see it happen again. Ah well - you learn by your mistakes.

Good thing is that we have a replacement GEC 1400 motor for the 9560, but the machine STILL needs rewiring to take it. Time and opportunity will hopefully become available one day, to deal with it.



Piccy of the 95842 below taken last night in my garage, along with the 93730, and spent this evening cleaning, tidying and stripping off the remains of sidestrips.

Will have to sort through storage, this weekend, and see what spares we have for it.

ta ta for now
Paul
p.s does anyone know whether the likes of Dulux or B&Q, as part of their paint matching facility, deal with enamel paints?



Post# 463229 , Reply# 24   9/13/2010 at 16:35 (4,944 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Very nice Paul

The chrome door quite suits the almond body dont you think? Is this a Next Gen or New Gen machine? Quite hard to tell when it's standing beside that lovely Next Gen Dryer. I just watched the Microprofile on YouTube going up to 1400rpm and it is quite exciting having never heard a GEC motor flogging its guts out. Hotpoint haven't replied yet regarding the 1600 but good things come to those who wait, though I dont think that will apply to this.

Looking good, James.


Post# 463231 , Reply# 25   9/13/2010 at 16:52 (4,944 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi James.

Hotpoint certainly were squeezing everything they had out of those 1400 motors. You certainly can tell that its working at right at the top end of its capabilities. The noise is awesome though.

The 95842 and 93730 are both 'New Generation' machines, the series being introduced in 1982 to 83, replacing the 18-series washers and 17-series dryers.

The term 'New Generation' was the official name given to them by Hotpoint and, with a few exceptions (namely the 9900 washer dryer and exclusive only machines) covered all 5 digit 95 and 93 machines.

The 'Next Generation' machines (a Discuss O Mat title and not an official series name) were the 4 digit 95 and 93 machines, that followed from 1986 onwards.

Re your enquiry to Hotpoint - wait and see what they say, but just dont get your hopes up too high.

Cheers
paul
p.s click the link for a superb Persil advert, with footage inside from inside the Clwyd Hotpoint factory! Its the first advert.


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Post# 463242 , Reply# 26   9/13/2010 at 17:53 (4,944 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Thank You Hotpoint............

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Showing some examples of its 1984 Range :).


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Post# 463327 , Reply# 27   9/14/2010 at 03:06 (4,944 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Paul and rob! She looks a treat!

Those adverts were great! I myself visited the Hotpoint factory in 1997! It was one of the best days of my life!


Hmmmm I spy an indesit moon next to that 93730 do I not!!!!

Always been intregued by that machine!

Darren


Post# 463339 , Reply# 28   9/14/2010 at 07:14 (4,944 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Microtronics / Microprofiles

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Nice machines there for the collections...The first Microprofiles 9560w had the "Profile Spin" and Hotpoint invested in a lot in dealer training to promote these new features as Profile Wash etc...

The first machines did only spin for 11 seconds at the top & final speed...the thinking then that with profile spin,most of the bulk of the water was removed at the lower speeds from 500rpm onwards, so as you gotten to the top speed, (lots of tumbling in between spins) 11secs at 1400rpm was all that was needed to "Fling" (that was Hotpoints training term) the final bit of moisture out of the clothes!!!

My uncle still has the white 9560W (yes boys I finally checked!!) that I got for my aunt in 1986. appar had new bearing & tub seal and another call out when they forgot to remove the blankets from the side of the drum (which I put there for safety) when it moved house!!

I remember selling one to a woman in Cheadle who came back so "bothered by the screaming noise in her basement" that we had to exchange it for a 1000 spin AEG, I got the margin lost by the exchange deducted from my sales commission because of that!!



Post# 463396 , Reply# 29   9/14/2010 at 13:58 (4,943 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Hotpoint Ad's

I love them, I want a colourful kitchen like the one in the 1984 ad! I see the fridge range then were just the 70's purple one's with brown trim, a bit like the late 18-series. I've never really seen the fridge range over the years, can someone enlighten me with pic's? Ideally I want to collect the brochures if somebody can scan them.

James.


Post# 463419 , Reply# 30   9/14/2010 at 15:38 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Darren.

Yep, I am afraid that that is a Moon hiding away there.

It is being stored in the garage for a friend of the owner of the house. It was installed here for a while and Jo (the owner of zee house) absolutely hated it!
Totally inflexible and she hated not being able to see what was going on inside. But all thats for another thread - lol.

Bet that the trip around the factory was fantastic! Any particular memories or just an all round fab experience?

paul


Post# 463421 , Reply# 31   9/14/2010 at 15:44 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya Mike.

Back off the hols or posting from abroad? Either way, hope that the hol was/is relaxing and that the move went smoothly. Give you a bell soon and catch up!

I do hope that your Uncle was instructed not to dispose of the Microprofile, when it gives up, and that instructions were issued for it to be retired to your custodianship.
Superb that it is still going and that little bit more special in that you bought it! A bit like those vacs that you rediscovered a year or so back - nothing owning a piece of family appliance history.

Paul


Post# 463423 , Reply# 32   9/14/2010 at 15:47 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi James.

I think the frideges were revamped in early 1985, probably launched in that New Year.
1984 still saw the 83-series refrigeration on sale, as you a colour modified version of the 1970s 'Amethyst' Iced Diamonds.

Paul


Post# 463424 , Reply# 33   9/14/2010 at 15:50 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Earlier in the thread the Microtronics replacement was mentioned - the 9556 Microprofile 1200 de Luxe.

Piccy attached below courtesy of Alex (SuperElectronic)....


Post# 463425 , Reply# 34   9/14/2010 at 15:51 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Change of tack - will post a few more pics, to show whats been going on over the last few evenings.



Post# 463426 , Reply# 35   9/14/2010 at 15:52 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

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Post# 463428 , Reply# 36   9/14/2010 at 15:53 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

a bit grubby and rough round those once sidestripped edges...

Post# 463429 , Reply# 37   9/14/2010 at 15:55 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

August 1984, so its just turned 26 years old!

Post# 463431 , Reply# 38   9/14/2010 at 16:03 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

About 4 months ago I picked up a 9524 as a spares machine, but comitted a cardinal sin of machines you acquire for spares and gave it a clean.

Unfortunately for me, it cleaned up rather well, so will be staying intact and heading off to its new home in the coming months.

When I came to clean up the insides though, I quickly put the lid back on. Carbon dust everywhere and, not having a power supply in the garage, thought better of cleaning it by hand so it will have to wait till it heads to Wales.

Point of the above waffle is that we all know that Hotpoint motors can be a bit carbon hungry and, over the years, tend to spread it about the insides of the machine rather liberally.

Hence why, it was with trepidation that i lifted the lid off the 95842.

What greeted my eyes stunned me, for the inside of this machine is pretty much pristine!

Without a word of a lie, the picture below is as I found it...


Post# 463432 , Reply# 39   9/14/2010 at 16:05 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

...

Post# 463433 , Reply# 40   9/14/2010 at 16:05 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

...the motor

Post# 463434 , Reply# 41   9/14/2010 at 16:06 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

...solonoids, suppressor and fill pipes

Post# 463435 , Reply# 42   9/14/2010 at 16:07 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the back of the machine...

Post# 463438 , Reply# 43   9/14/2010 at 16:13 (4,943 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
finally for tonight...

doing a drum waggle test gives a slight movement in the bearings, which will have to be sorted at some stage in the future.

Taking the back off the machine confirmed the state of play with a slight stain confirming bleeding bearings.

This picture shows also the only clear carbon dust I could find, with a thin layer over the module cover sheets.

Will continue prettifying the machine and hopefully provide a further update at the weekend.

ta ta for now
Paul


Post# 463440 , Reply# 44   9/14/2010 at 16:17 (4,943 days old) by HooverJames ()        
Marvellous...

If I had that I'd shove our WML540 out and put that beauty in it's place. Where are Hotpoint's built at now because if the factory is closed then there won't be people there, that could mean machines left undiscovered?

James.


Post# 463528 , Reply# 45   9/15/2010 at 05:38 (4,943 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Fantastic, fabulous, cracking, great.

I would love to own this machine; it’s sort of what I’m aspiring to with my project machine, a sort of homage to this model. I had a Saturday job at the village store when still at school and the shop owner had one of these and I carried out a welding repair to the base plate, which had cracked under the shock.

I sooooo want one.


Post# 463529 , Reply# 46   9/15/2010 at 05:42 (4,943 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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I have just spotted that steam vent at the back of the soap draw, not seen that on a 95 before, suppose it’s to help keep the damp out of the sell, to protect those electronics.


Post# 463578 , Reply# 47   9/15/2010 at 13:10 (4,942 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Paul
Is this the machine, in the link at the very top of this thread, from Derby?


Post# 463585 , Reply# 48   9/15/2010 at 14:23 (4,942 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Lee.

Yep - this is the machine from Derby. Really couldnt let this one escape and the seller was really pleased that it was going to have a long term future, as a collection piece to be restored, rather than be treated as just any old washing machine.

The first time I looked at the back of the machine, I too noticed the unusual steam vent. A de luxe top of the range feature? I have never seen this feature on any other 95.

Another teaser pic below!

I am eager for the weekend, as I have to raid storage for a specific replacement part and I hope a) we have one and b) that its serviceable.

Keep your fingers crossed.
Paul
p.s in the piccy below, the top of the main front panel had been cleaned and came up pretty darn good too.





Post# 463877 , Reply# 49   9/17/2010 at 12:07 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
A few more pics....

cleaned up the door area and door seal and both came up lovely.

Note the different door hinge arrangement, from other 95's. Perhaps this was the earlier weaker design?

All other 95s I have seen have had the two plastic pieces that go over prongs on the hinge part attached to the machine, and which then screw into runners on the door...


Post# 463878 , Reply# 50   9/17/2010 at 12:09 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

front panel post cleaning.

only the scrape marks at the bottom right and a couple of blemishes to sort out...


Post# 463879 , Reply# 51   9/17/2010 at 12:10 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

left hand bodyside, precleaning...

Post# 463880 , Reply# 52   9/17/2010 at 12:11 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

half done...

Post# 463881 , Reply# 53   9/17/2010 at 12:11 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

sorted and again only a few small issues to correct...

Post# 463882 , Reply# 54   9/17/2010 at 12:12 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the right hand bodyside...

Post# 463883 , Reply# 55   9/17/2010 at 12:15 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

et voila...

Post# 463884 , Reply# 56   9/17/2010 at 12:16 (4,941 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Will post some more on Sunday.

Paul


Post# 464017 , Reply# 57   9/18/2010 at 11:22 (4,940 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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I can’t wait for some videos.

Post# 464048 , Reply# 58   9/18/2010 at 14:34 (4,939 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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PAUL

You really MUST come and stay in my garage with my machines for a few days, endless tea and cakes will be supplied :-)

It amazes me how well this and your other machines come up, by the time I have restored (mechanically) a machine im to fed up with it to spend hours cleaning it up just a kwik wipe over with mr muscle an thats it :-)

Gary


Post# 464291 , Reply# 59   9/19/2010 at 15:39 (4,938 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

No probs Gary.

Nowt like a bit of 'cleaning em up', then standing back and with satisfaction looking at the end result! My kind of therapy.

You will have to get in line after Mathew though. Heading across to his next month (hopefully) and I have got an A3060, A3586, A8546 and D6042 to get through first.

But will book you in for 'Round 2'.

So thats 'Gary', 'Saltash' and an 'A3190, A3110, A3060 (that shouldnt need much doing to it, as gave it a clean prior to delivery), A3308, D6042, D6144, A3794, A3138, A3256, A3258 and 3243H' potentially to deal with. Blimey - will need more that a few days to get through that lot!
Also I dont clean in artificial light and we are coming into winter time now, so less daylight. Best book two weeks off work then.

What cakes will they be? Can I have some iced buns too! (major sweet tooth).

Paul


Post# 464296 , Reply# 60   9/19/2010 at 15:56 (4,938 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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No cakes ta. Hes on a diet!

He will work for free.



Post# 464378 , Reply# 61   9/20/2010 at 04:57 (4,938 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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Well Paul seeing as you have been put on a diet by Twiggy, you can have the kind of diabetic cakes i have then.......NORMAL LOADSASUGER ONES! with no mushrooms :-) see i remember

Post# 464380 , Reply# 62   9/20/2010 at 05:07 (4,938 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Lol....

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OMG, now the food police!!! Dont worry Paul, Al will see us right!!!

Although theres plenty here as well, so dont go offering Saltash before here!!!...LOl

Looking forward to seeing the Micro in action!!


Post# 464384 , Reply# 63   9/20/2010 at 05:45 (4,938 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Fresh Foods

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Paul you are welcome to go to Mikes new residence in the outter parts of Chester (run down council estates bit) but from what i re-call after eating the food offered up there I was left with the feeling that most of it was... how should I say this?...a bit "sell by date" second hand stuff if you know what i mean...........where as down here we have loads of real bakeries that make fresh cakes daily..........up to you Paul matey ;-)

Post# 464608 , Reply# 64   9/21/2010 at 12:53 (4,936 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Proper Cornish cream tea, stuff the tea all have another cream cake, scone with lots of jam and clotted cream sitting on Mevagissey harbour.

Post# 464631 , Reply# 65   9/21/2010 at 14:22 (4,936 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Wiffy Harbours

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He he oh yeah Lee do that but dont sit to close when the tide goes out..........rotting spider crabs an bits of fish lay on the bottom, it is a feeding frenzy for the shitehawks and a bit wiffy too.

There is the model railway place just back from the harbour with massive layouts etc etc....and the narrow streets to wander up and down and get run over in (no passing room in some of them)

It is a lovely place a typical cornish place as any, not like St Ives which is full of wealthy middle class arty types who have bought up everything and anything and totally stripped the place of any character. ah well thats me rant over......bring on the clotted cream ;-)


Post# 464869 , Reply# 66   9/22/2010 at 15:41 (4,935 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
New car is playing Up! grrrrrrr

Didnt get to storage at the weekend, so having a frustrating week of inactivity Microtronic wise.

Hopefully get across to find those bits and bobs I need this weekend. Desperate to get it sorted out.

Paul


Post# 466174 , Reply# 67   9/28/2010 at 13:29 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
New car sorted!

Consequently popped into storage to pick up lid strips, side strips and BINGO - a replacement facia.

A little bit dinged on the left hand corner, but in far better condition than the machines existing one.

The replacemnet facias adhesive sticker has retained its brown colour throughout, rather than turning light bronze.


Have however literally just noticed something I never realised before now...

there were two versions of the 95840/842!

The replacement facia is from an early machine from 1983, a machine that actually contained an enamel outer tub!

The 95842 I have is from 1984 and has had two extra programmes added into its programming - Mixed Wash and Quick Wash....


Post# 466175 , Reply# 68   9/28/2010 at 13:34 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

As you can see closer up, the machines existing facia (lower panel) has to be replaced, as an index finger has at some stage slipped off the slow spin button and cracked through the facia.

That will have happened when the retaining lug at the back of the facia gave way on that bank of buttons.
Consequentally, when you push any of those three option buttons, the buttons simply press through the facia....


Post# 466178 , Reply# 69   9/28/2010 at 13:55 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The plan always was to transplant the machines existing pcb board and switch banks into the replacement facia as these, in theory, definitely work.

The 1983 board has previously lived in a shed and has sweated in hot summers and frozen in cold winters over many years.
As such, I need to do some repair work to this as the insulation tape ribbons, connecting the buttons to the board, have started to split. These will need resealing.

Also, come to think of it, the connections from the 1984 machine into a 1983 pcb possibly might not fit.

Below is the replacement facia, with button banks removed...




Post# 466179 , Reply# 70   9/28/2010 at 13:56 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

left part...

Post# 466180 , Reply# 71   9/28/2010 at 13:56 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

middle part...

Post# 466181 , Reply# 72   9/28/2010 at 13:57 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

right part...

Post# 466182 , Reply# 73   9/28/2010 at 14:00 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Then again, I say swap the boards over...

I just have to hope that the 1984 board is the same size as the 1983 facia, otherwise I might have to perform more surgery on this facia!

The 1983 pcb below...


Post# 466183 , Reply# 74   9/28/2010 at 14:03 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Amazing waht uses you can put....

an old AA membership card to!

The 1983 facia had suffered in the same was the 1984 facia - the slow spin bank of switches were floating around, as their retaining lugs had cracked.

Over the last couple of evenings, I have been doing repairs and strengthening...


Post# 466187 , Reply# 75   9/28/2010 at 14:16 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

I wrapped acetate around the screw lugs and then superglued the acetate sheaths to the existing plastic work.

Said old AA Membership Card was then cut up and bent into 'L' shape strips, with one side of the 'L' then superglued to the screw lugs, whilst the other side of the 'L' superglued to the facia.

Hopefully, being gentle when pressing the option buttons, these should survive the rigours of occasional use.
Then again, its 1980s brittle brown palstic work were talking about here, so I wont hold my breath that they will survive.
Have tried my best with it though.

The screw lug, in the middle of the picture, was totally detached at the base. So this and its partner will always be the weakest points...


Post# 466188 , Reply# 76   9/28/2010 at 14:21 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Thats all for the mo...

but if anyone comes across a late series 95840/842 facia, I'd be interested!

Paul
p.s the facia for the 9550A/W and machines onwards arent suitable, as they were equipped with a bloomin Time delay function and the option buttons were labelled differently. Grrrrrrrrr!
9550 below....


Post# 466195 , Reply# 77   9/28/2010 at 14:54 (4,929 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
where there is a will

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Great Paul to see your work in progress, all the little challenges that restoration projects throw up eh ;-)

But like others here you will not be put off and good for you.

superglue, hotmelt glue gun, araldite the list of "fixit" compounds goes on...... add a bit of tanacity and hey ho there yah go ;-)

Well done
Gary

Ps sorry you wont be in Bristol


Post# 466199 , Reply# 78   9/28/2010 at 15:10 (4,929 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya Gary.

Thoroughly satisfying slowly working through the issues, though have to fathom out what to do with that left hand piece chipped out of the facia. mmmmmmmmm....will have to raid the stationary cupboard at work and se what I can come up with.

I also have to fashion two or three facia retaining clips for the right hand side of the facia. Not a securing screw in sight (unfortunately), the facia being held on by three flimsy hooks, two of which have broken off.
The third remaining hook will provide a template of sorts for me to try and fashion two or three or four or five or six replacement others (stronger the better).

Was brave this eveining and removed the 1983 board for the 83 facaia. Tomorrow will see me try and get really brave and remove the 84 facia and transplant the 84 board across! Wish me luck, though i will probably bottle it. lol.


Gutted I/we cant pop down to Bristol. Unfortunately already occupied with friends coming up to stay.

Be sure to tell me all that goes on.

Paul


Post# 466298 , Reply# 79   9/29/2010 at 08:54 (4,929 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Paul

Thank you for posting all the progress with this restoration. I’m sure the PCB will transplant to the better facia just go carefully with those spring clips across the top retaining the board, it’s a shame that the facia on the 95’s are so weak and crack with such easy, you innovative repairs should last.

PS, if that broken facia and buttons are heading for the bin, I would be interested in it for my project machine.

Keep up the good work.
Lee


Post# 468131 , Reply# 80   10/9/2010 at 09:25 (4,919 days old) by richukbristol ()        

Hi lovely Guy, the Hotpoint looks great. It's been so interesting watching the progress you've made. Is there much left to do?. I can't wait for you to come down again and work your detailing magic on a couple of my machines.

Rich


Post# 468379 , Reply# 81   10/10/2010 at 14:43 (4,917 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi all.

Sorry for the wait - been sorting bits and bobs out.

Today saw me chopping the ends off two lid strips, as the 95842 has an extended worktop lid for working in the open, so normal length lid strips wouldnt fit.

Tomorrow will see me get the Dremmel out to cut off and grind down the lid strip attaching lugs, which are all in the wrong place for the holes on the lid.

Once all done, will temporarily attach all plastic work with blu-tac and post some pics.

Towards the end of week hopefully.

Paul


Post# 469041 , Reply# 82   10/13/2010 at 13:00 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi all

a final update before the mechanical investigations begin to ascertain as to why the Microtronic leaks.

But, until the machine is moved to a location with electric and a water supply, the final chapter will have to wait a bit.

Until then, here is the penultimate restoration chapter!

The new facia, having seen all its screw lugs repaired and strengthened, was fitted to the machine about a week ago. The electrics remain as per the machine i.e a MkII machine, but the facia is for a MkI machine.
I can live with it like this until a MkII facia comes along.

Will just have to remember that the machine will count through to 15 programmes, where as the facia descriptions shows only 13.

A massive improvement though, I am sure you will agree...


Post# 469044 , Reply# 83   10/13/2010 at 13:03 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

the control buttons and digital display.

This facia retains more of the browns of the New Generations, whilst the other facia had bleached heavily over the years and gone very bronze and brown.

This replacement facia is also 'turning' slightly, but nowhere near as bad...


Post# 469045 , Reply# 84   10/13/2010 at 13:04 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The right hand side with On/Off and Door Release...

Post# 469047 , Reply# 85   10/13/2010 at 13:05 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Over the other side and the powder drawer colours match very well with the 'new' facia.

Note that chip out the left edge - grrrrr!


Post# 469048 , Reply# 86   10/13/2010 at 13:09 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Yesterday morning saw me, at my works computer, playing with Microsoft Paint!

A wee bit of experimentation saw me produce a brown colour chart, which was printed off and brought home.

A small cutting of the best shade saw a fairly effective (from a distance) temporary repair...


Post# 469049 , Reply# 87   10/13/2010 at 13:11 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The bane of every New and Next Generation.

THE STRIPS!

Provided courtesy of a scrap 9513, the strips had all their retaining lugs dremmelled off and an alternative fixing method utilised instead - blue tac....


Post# 469051 , Reply# 88   10/13/2010 at 13:13 (4,914 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Will post the results tomorrow, but here is one final 'BEFORE' picture...

Post# 469058 , Reply# 89   10/13/2010 at 14:55 (4,914 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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Hello Paul

This is a rewarding thread to follow, like all your restorations, you are meticulous and thorough and this gives the results set out before us.
Well done, some times fiddling with a tiny part can be just as satisfying as a whole job.

The unwillingness to give in ! :-)

Well done Paul
Gary


Post# 469072 , Reply# 90   10/13/2010 at 16:54 (4,914 days old) by ultimafan ()        
hi Paul

such a great restoration! and truly a great machine! I never knew there were two models of the machine made with more programmes in the 84 version compared to the 83 one.

Keep up the good work ;)


Post# 469286 , Reply# 91   10/14/2010 at 12:56 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hiya Gary.

Cheers for the kind words. Glad you are enjoying the thread and OVER THE MOON at your new acquisition.

Cant wait to see an A3060 - A3062 - D6042 photoshoot!

Leave it till you are back on form again though.

Paul


Post# 469289 , Reply# 92   10/14/2010 at 12:59 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Ultimafan.

It was something I never knew either. It was only when I put the facias next to one another that I noticed the difference.

Am going to have to go and update the spreadsheet now.

You learn something new every day.

Paul


Post# 469296 , Reply# 93   10/14/2010 at 13:02 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Here we go then!

The 'AFTER' shot.

Will get around to touching up the edge of the lid soon, though might leave the grazes at the bottom right as a reminder of what it looked like (unless I get a good paint match!)...


Post# 469300 , Reply# 94   10/14/2010 at 13:06 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Weird, but Hotpoint never quite seemed to remedy the length of the left hand side strips.

My parents 95452 suffered the shorter left, as did my godmothers 95450 as well.

Strange how they seemed to get the right hand to fit flush with the facia, but seldom the left. A shame really cause, if the sidestrip was flush fitting, that chip out of the facia would be even more difficult to see...


Post# 469302 , Reply# 95   10/14/2010 at 13:08 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The powder drawer facia...

Post# 469303 , Reply# 96   10/14/2010 at 13:10 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The extended lid.

The side strips were handily broken at the back, so I hacksawed the ends off to make them fit...


Post# 469304 , Reply# 97   10/14/2010 at 13:11 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

A clean and tidy powder drawer...

Post# 469307 , Reply# 98   10/14/2010 at 13:12 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

From a distance but zoomed in - to give the Instruction Manual Cover perspective...

Post# 469308 , Reply# 99   10/14/2010 at 13:14 (4,913 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Full frontal!

Mechanical investigattions next, to find out where the leak is from. But thats for another time!

Cheers for viewing.
Paul


Post# 469469 , Reply# 100   10/15/2010 at 11:39 (4,913 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Bravo, bravo, more, more.
Fantastic stuff what a beautiful machine.

Hopefully the leak is not to a big thing to sort out.



Post# 470716 , Reply# 101   10/21/2010 at 13:39 (4,906 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Lee.

God knows when we will find time to water test it, but soon as leak is sorted and barring anything else being wrong, vids will follow shortly after.

Fingers crossed for a speedy repair of the leak.

Cheers
paul


Post# 673130 , Reply# 102   4/16/2013 at 07:23 (3,999 days old) by mk85 ()        

HI

I have one of these machines, Hotpoint 9513 - Very old.

The drum is not turning. Does anyone know what the problem could be?

I'm thinking of buy a new one - Would it be worth trying to get the old one fixed?

Thanks


Post# 673197 , Reply# 103   4/16/2013 at 13:50 (3,998 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
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Sounds like a belt or motor problem to me.
It would be worth trying to fix it, but don't go overboard, plus spares can be difficult to find!
Good Luck
Jacob



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