Thread Number: 30723
Pimp my Dishwasher |
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Post# 464382 , Reply# 1   9/20/2010 at 05:37 (4,960 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 464467 , Reply# 2   9/20/2010 at 18:15 (4,959 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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TopLoad, where is your sense of adventure! A new DW is a given but think of all the damage I can do with my plan! I'm thinking water leaks, shorts, sparks and maybe even flames could be in the offing. |
Post# 464475 , Reply# 3   9/20/2010 at 19:19 (4,959 days old) by deedub (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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Love your work. I think hotter water would help the cause also, perhaps you can install a secondary heating system to get it nice and hot! |
Post# 464612 , Reply# 6   9/21/2010 at 13:06 (4,958 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Look for a older Kitchenaid or Maytag, you won't be dissatisfied. |
Post# 464616 , Reply# 7   9/21/2010 at 13:17 (4,958 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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A fellow member advised that in a former living situation, he was cursed with a GE dishwasher that produced dishes that were dirtier than when they went in.
Yours could be that model. I'd say find a fun way to kill it off completely rather than trying to fix it, as you may be wasting your time. You can probably find a good deal on a machine on CL that will be a fun one to use, and that will clean your dishes like a dishwasher is supposed to. Presuming you've got some phosphated detergent. |
Post# 464674 , Reply# 8   9/21/2010 at 19:05 (4,958 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 464767 , Reply# 10   9/22/2010 at 06:25 (4,958 days old) by CUFFS054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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MTB, does yours leave stuff in the up-turned bottoms of cups? The dishes that get good coverage of spray do ok, but the lack of filter is stupid. |
Post# 464870 , Reply# 11   9/22/2010 at 15:47 (4,957 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)   |   | |
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scrape well, and I believe in scraping, but never rinsing. To me, rinsing is a waste of time and water, and defeats the entire purpose of the thing. Please check the email in your profile soon! Lawrence/Maytagbear |
Post# 464895 , Reply# 13   9/22/2010 at 19:01 (4,957 days old) by lovestowash (St. Petersburg, FL)   |   | |
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Cuffs...
my experience is that any dish with a "concave bottom" (like some of those at LJ's) is going to hold water, even if you can filter the debris... I avoid buying those...but if you already have them, give them a serious tilt in the rack...not enough to block the spray, but enough to keep them from holding water... that's worked for me, in dw's with and w/o a top spray...I hate to roll out the top rack and find waiting water, debris or not... be happy to give you a demo next time we're at the campground... George |
Post# 464986 , Reply# 14   9/23/2010 at 07:16 (4,957 days old) by CUFFS054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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Rumor has it that some of them hold fuzzy navels as well. See you this weekend? |
Post# 465059 , Reply# 15   9/23/2010 at 12:52 (4,956 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Cock your cups/cup your cocks, it's all good.
My '85 Thermador has no filter. I have to make sure all chunks are off the dishes before placing them in it, but the flip side is that there is no filter to clog or retain gunk that will be circulated again and again through the various cycles. Whatever yiblets can fit through the opening get "disposed" of when the machine drains. I've come to appreciate that system. I believe fellow member Nate (roto204) successfully pimped a GE (not sure if it was the funky one I referred to above) a couple of years back. You can probably find his detailed thread if you do a search for his posts. |
Post# 465178 , Reply# 16   9/23/2010 at 23:38 (4,956 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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The GE I had was a mid-seventies builder's grade model, and it was horrid. This machine would be better than that.
Even so, it may have the same pump port covered with a stopper. If it does, then adding the constant rinse is trivial once you have the parts. Roger and I did a pimping of a GE into a Youngstown Kitchens jet-tower configuration for the 2006 wash-in, but I don't have any pics of it (for shame!). That may be a touch more extreme than you're shooting for, though ;-) The other thing I did was rig a filter out of vinyl windowscreen stretched across a circular A/C register that fit over the round offset sump. (I called it the "Filter-Flo.") It caught food and prevented indefinite recirculation. It improved the performance, but at the cost of forever rinsing out a filter. |
Post# 465208 , Reply# 17   9/24/2010 at 05:43 (4,956 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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That GE in that last picture looked EXACTLY like the one I grew up with and it cleaned some of the NASTIEST dishes......I remember we were kids and we would put dishes in there with pancake batter dripping, not loaded properly etc, and everything came clean. I was always amazed. It was dark green in color though.
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Post# 465217 , Reply# 18   9/24/2010 at 07:36 (4,956 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 465271 , Reply# 19   9/24/2010 at 12:05 (4,955 days old) by CUFFS054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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GGary, looks neat (but what is it!) and/or how does it work? |
Post# 465849 , Reply# 20   9/26/2010 at 22:19 (4,953 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Thanks, Gary!!!
Well, here's how we did that... You can see the back where we initially planned to create a Frigidaire spin-tube by mounting the spray tower horizontally under the top rack. However, we wanted to work with PVC to preserve the, um, integrity of the GE design. It's hard to create a bearing surface out of PVC, because the material is a little thermally sensitive. So, we used the bearing for the lower wash-arm supplied by GE, and built up from there. The top is supported with a bolt and flat washer through the top of the machine, and that had to be oiled to keep it as low-friction as possible. There is a helical pattern of holes drilled in the tube, with four metal flanges screwed on at silverware-basket level and large holes drilled under them. The flanges are angled in, so that the hole allows water to shoot out, hit the flange, and fan the water outward at an angle. When it does this, the force of the exiting water results in an equal and opposite "push" on the tube, causing it to rotate. The tube would, when warmed up and moving, get going at a pretty good clip--probably about 200 RPM or so. The racks were modified (cut top and bottom to allow the tube to pass through), and the tines bent to allow the dishes to face the tower, a la impeller dishwasher. We used the secondary port on the pump to drive a tiny constant rinse we fashioned out of sheet metal and bolted to the roof off-center (since the spinning tower occupied the dead-center spot). It would spin slowly and send sheets of water down over the top rack. It worked pretty well--Plexiglas door and all--but was not a capacity champ, since all dish surfaces had to face the tower. |