Thread Number: 31346
lady kenmore having a bit of a problem getting going |
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Post# 473168 , Reply# 1   11/3/2010 at 08:17 (4,894 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 473169 , Reply# 2   11/3/2010 at 08:18 (4,894 days old) by Dustin92 (Jackson, MI)   |   | |
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maybe replace the belt? |
Post# 473206 , Reply# 3   11/3/2010 at 11:16 (4,894 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 473262 , Reply# 4   11/3/2010 at 18:05 (4,893 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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I figured it would be the belt as it started struggling to spin last night. ill have to see if i can source one and put it in. As for pictures ill post some as soon as I can find my camera. |
Post# 473273 , Reply# 5   11/3/2010 at 19:26 (4,893 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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well popped open the back belt has a good half inch of deflection but still looks and feel to be in good shape. was surprised by how clean it is inside. |
Post# 473274 , Reply# 6   11/3/2010 at 19:27 (4,893 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)   |   | |
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here is a belt for WP and KM belt drive washers I found. but this site will also let you put in your model number and can check for sure.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO cphifer5115's LINK |
Post# 473288 , Reply# 8   11/3/2010 at 20:22 (4,893 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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well tightened the belt still doesn't grab in right it doesn't seem like the agitator is locking in to the drive. |
Post# 473290 , Reply# 9   11/3/2010 at 20:37 (4,893 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 473297 , Reply# 10   11/3/2010 at 21:22 (4,893 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)   |   | |
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Post# 473595 , Reply# 13   11/5/2010 at 20:59 (4,891 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)   |   | |
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it couldn't hurt to put it on youtube. I am sure one of these experts in here will know what to do once they see it in action and hear the sounds it's making. I am wondering though if maybe the motor is getting the proper current going to it. I know one time my mom's washer was pluged into an old light circut that causes the motor to burn up.
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Post# 473597 , Reply# 14   11/5/2010 at 21:35 (4,891 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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oh motor is fine its all in the gearbox and associated workings motor has no problems running it. ill get the video out tonight and throw a link up. |
Post# 473631 , Reply# 16   11/6/2010 at 03:02 (4,891 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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well then :/. i have no fear and nothing to loose hows the transmission come out? |
Post# 473757 , Reply# 18   11/7/2010 at 01:42 (4,890 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Hi Duke,
What you have is a 1965 model Lady K set. They were very popular and very likely in production well into 1966. I don't know what to tell you about the loud squeal, except I would suspect the basket drive pulley. Are you still having that problem? If so, does it go away when the machine goes into spin? As to the transmission that does not properly engage, I have heard of this a few times. Try pushing down on the agitator and see if that firmly makes it engage. If it does, then the one or both (probably both) of the springs that push down on the drive gear have either rusted and broken or fatigued. On a healthy belt-drive transmission, engagement of agitate is accompanied by a loud slapping sound, which is made by the drive gear dropping down onto the agitator shaft hubs. These are two large, pinky-finger diameter hubs that protrude from the agitator shaft by about 1/2 inch. There is a strong spring above the drive gear in between it and the cover of the transmission, and another slightly smaller gear around the wigwag post. Both gears in concert act to put a great deal of downward force on the drive gear, and when the gaps in the drive gear meet the hubs in the agitator shaft, they come together rather forcefully and agitation is engaged and will stay that way until the wigwag cam bar activation causes the drive gear to be pulled back up (still under load of the springs) and become separated from the shaft hubs. When the springs begin to go bad, the engagement becomes less forceful, and eventually the moving drive gear will slip over the top of the hubs and cause a knocking or minimal agitation. If the transmission is smooth and quiet once it finally engages, I myself would not hestitate to take it apart and replace the springs. However I did see one once that had chewed up shaft hubs from so much slippage and the shaft had to be replaced (now NLA). IT IS NOT EASY TO REINSTALL THE AGITATOR CAM BAR WHEN NEW SPRINGS ARE INSTALLED. By far the easiest thing to do is replace the transmission for another one if you can locate one. Gordon |
Post# 473800 , Reply# 20   11/7/2010 at 09:08 (4,890 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Hi again Duke -
Well, I am glad we figured out the source of your problem. The machine sounds nicely healthy other than the broken spring issue. I recommend you put the agitator cap back on. It will allow air to escape from the centerpost and potentially flood it with water, which can damage the bearings and allow water inside the transmission. If the machine was run that way often, it might explain the rusted/broken springs in the gearcase actually. Once the cap and detergent cup are back on, it will be a lot easier to press down on the agitator. Do that from straight above the agitator if you can. GREAT video - that's what I needed to be sure of your problem. Now we need to solve the problem for you, which is going to entail either a repair of that transmission, OR a replacement. Just out of curiosity, have you tried to remove the agitator? Gordon |
Post# 473806 , Reply# 21   11/7/2010 at 09:36 (4,890 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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i only had the agitator cap off so i could get a good grip and not break any more of the little nubs off the scrubber. as for having tried to remove it yes and i failed miserably. |
Post# 474049 , Reply# 23   11/8/2010 at 16:20 (4,888 days old) by duked ()   |   | |
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well pushing down stopped working but i have a new way pulling up on it when its in extra slow then bringing it back up to full wth is up with this thing. |
Post# 474096 , Reply# 24   11/8/2010 at 21:04 (4,888 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Yes it sounds like you have a broken spring in your transmission. There is a 99% chance that a little water has leaked down the agitator shaft and the spring rusted and broke, the springs do not get weak in the HD transmissions that were made 1964 and later. The transmission will need to be rebuilt or just replace it with a newer [ water free ] one or you can still buy a good rebuilt one for only around $100. You will still have to figure how the water got in there and address that issue. Most likely you will need to replace the spin tube and the other center post seals at a minimum to have a good long term repair. You are right that when the agitator engages the agitator gear drops down on the pin thats pressed through the agitator shaft, so pulling up on the agitator may help a reluctant transmission to engage the agitator pushing down will never work.
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