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Thread Number: 31481
Goodbye, direct drive WP's |
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Post# 474876 11/13/2010 at 16:55 (4,905 days old) by goatfarmer  (South Bend, home of Champions) |
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| Post# 474880 , Reply# 1 11/13/2010 at 17:53 (4,905 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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was a long run...my local damaged freight store still has a brand new "estate"DD of 2008 vintage-it has minor damage to the top of the panel. | ||
| Post# 474881 , Reply# 2 11/13/2010 at 18:40 (4,905 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Post# 474894 , Reply# 3 11/13/2010 at 20:20 (4,905 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 474898 , Reply# 4 11/13/2010 at 20:42 (4,905 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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the new BDs are "impeller" machines-i'd guess the mechanism is a lot like a "hydrowave"GE with an inverter driven motor. | ||
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Post# 474899 , Reply# 5 11/13/2010 at 20:55 (4,905 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 474918 , Reply# 6 11/13/2010 at 22:28 (4,905 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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| Post# 474936 , Reply# 7 11/14/2010 at 03:17 (4,905 days old) by autowasherfreak () | ||
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The new Whirlpools will be like the Whirlpool World Washer is what I've heard, on the order of this one. | ||
| Post# 474937 , Reply# 8 11/14/2010 at 03:18 (4,905 days old) by autowasherfreak () | ||
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Which one had the longer run original belt drives, or direct drives? | ||
| Post# 474954 , Reply# 9 11/14/2010 at 06:30 (4,905 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Thunk-a Thunk-a | ||
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Post# 474968 , Reply# 10 11/14/2010 at 07:19 (4,905 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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| Post# 474987 , Reply# 12 11/14/2010 at 09:45 (4,905 days old) by amyswasher () | ||
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I guess I better keep my shredmore I have in the shed. I only keep it in case my LG craps out. | ||
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Post# 475093 , Reply# 14 11/14/2010 at 18:22 (4,904 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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THE NEW BD WP WASHERS
The new washer is based on the world washer design that came out over 20 years ago. It is being sold as an impeller machine now but a regular agitator design is also available. It is not much like a GE Hydrowave as the WP still has a transmission and a brake solenoid to release the brake and shift into spin. The new washer has been greatly improved in quality and durability over the WW and is much easier to disassemble and repair. I would wager that WP has a winner with this machine they really did thier home work on this one. The original BD washers were in production from 1947-1987 40 years, the DD washers came out in a limited fashion in 1981 and may make it to almost 30 years. I suspect that more DD washers were made than BDs or any other automatic washer in history and may go down as the most successful washer in history when everything is considered. Often when we think of DD washers we think only of the basic cheap models that everyone has had. But there are some really fun DD washers out there such as the LK electronic models, the three speed models, the catalyst cleaning machines and the neat Resource Saver washers. Now is the time to get these as they are plentiful and easy to fix.
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| Post# 475094 , Reply# 15 11/14/2010 at 18:29 (4,904 days old) by mtn1584 (USA) | ||
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@gr81nknox That was the exact washer I was talking about, except mine had a variable water level, and I had the exact same dryer. I had mine in "bisque." Thanks for the photo Mike | ||
| Post# 475099 , Reply# 16 11/14/2010 at 19:03 (4,904 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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| Post# 475100 , Reply# 17 11/14/2010 at 19:11 (4,904 days old) by autowasherfreak () | ||
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I still like the sounds of a belt drive machine better than direct drive machines, very relaxing almost hypnotic. | ||
| Post# 475129 , Reply# 18 11/14/2010 at 20:57 (4,904 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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Post# 475133 , Reply# 19 11/14/2010 at 21:02 (4,904 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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| Post# 475145 , Reply# 20 11/14/2010 at 21:54 (4,904 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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Yeah they are whirling in a circle as if floating along with the water. Is this effective cleaning? | ||
| Post# 475172 , Reply# 21 11/15/2010 at 07:14 (4,904 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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How fast do these machines spin? For the laundromat guys maybe a viable/safe option has presented itself here. alr2903 | ||
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Post# 475175 , Reply# 22 11/15/2010 at 07:28 (4,904 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP WW WASHER VIDEO | ||
| Post# 475208 , Reply# 23 11/15/2010 at 11:45 (4,904 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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| Post# 475242 , Reply# 24 11/15/2010 at 13:28 (4,903 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
De-evolution
I feel somehow that we're taking steps in the wrong direction. At some point did we forget how to build a top-load washer? I wonder what's next, maybe we'll try to hook an engine to the washer, it'll have to be a 400hp V8 and do 1/2 load to the gallon. Or better yet maybe washers will just work on osmosis and because we think it's washing it must be... oh wait!
Say what you will, I will sorely miss the DD washers. I'm am just absolutely disgusted with these new machines, mostly I think because these are "just appliances". If you care how the machine washes or take enjoyment of any sort watching the machine run, there is nothing in it for you period. I recently had a chance to play with a portable WW and this particular one didn't even have a spin only cycle. I also do not like the noise the motors produce, instead of the woo-woo or clunka clunka it like a nylon zipper going up and down. It sounds like some sore of robotics going on in there. I guess I should just face the fact that I'm just not able to like these new HE TL's yet, and won't have anything especially nice to say about them. I hope they grow on me, but I fear that if that happens, I'll pretty much be done with the hobby. Annoyed at modern appliances, -Tim | ||
| Post# 475417 , Reply# 27 11/16/2010 at 06:43 (4,903 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Hydrowave | ||
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Post# 475428 , Reply# 28 11/16/2010 at 07:44 (4,903 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WPs NEW TOP LOAD WASHERS
I am glad that WP chose to make an all new TL washer in this country rather than just abandoning the top load market. Frigidare and SQ are likely to stop making TL washers all together in the next three years or so. The world washers have been around for more than 20 years and have had no motor problems and very few control problems and the drive belt in the new washers has been beefed up to a polly-vee belt and will likely out last the washer. This is the same type of belt that takes the stress of constant reversing heavy wet loads in FL washers and how many people do you know that are replacing many belts on the new FL washers? I don't think our company has sold even two FL washer belts in the last ten years.I know we may not like the new machines as well [ me included ] but I predict that it will be a very successful design for WP and will be more durable than any washer WP has ever made.
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| Post# 475498 , Reply# 30 11/16/2010 at 12:44 (4,902 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Only time will tell...Something common is bound to break on these machines->otherwise Whirlpool may have shot themselves in the foot again. Hopefully it's better than the load of Calypsos they dumped out. | ||
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Post# 475625 , Reply# 31 11/16/2010 at 20:09 (4,902 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Been sorely tempted | ||
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Post# 475688 , Reply# 32 11/16/2010 at 23:22 (4,902 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH) |
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End of WP DD. | ||
| Post# 475692 , Reply# 33 11/16/2010 at 23:37 (4,902 days old) by autowasherfreak () | ||
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Bob, that was so bad it was good, LOL. | ||
| Post# 475743 , Reply# 34 11/17/2010 at 08:14 (4,902 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN) | ||
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Is the entire DD line dead, or is the DD design being phased | ||
| Post# 475863 , Reply# 35 11/17/2010 at 15:15 (4,901 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa) | ||
Right now, the "off" brands are still DD. Estate, Roper, Inglis, Amana, & crosley (independent group) are still DD for now.
Estate is going away shortly. The kitchen appliances are already subbing to Amana. The Estate laundry is still available, but for how much longer, I do not know. WP has been blowing out the Maytag DD and it is looking like they are about gone. Some models have already dried up at the RDC's. Only time will tell if the new machine is a winner. So far, I've had one returned out of the 3 I sold. Hopefully that one was operator error. | ||
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Post# 475989 , Reply# 36 11/17/2010 at 23:37 (4,901 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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