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Thread Number: 31629
How does your washer handle Sudslocks? |
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| Post# 477125 , Reply# 1 11/23/2010 at 14:28 (4,895 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
Well..... | ||
| Post# 477126 , Reply# 2 11/23/2010 at 14:33 (4,895 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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Brilliantly! It's a Maytag! Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 477132 , Reply# 3 11/23/2010 at 15:55 (4,895 days old) by dj-gabriele () | ||
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My CRAP Whirlpol AWO/D 3080 if senses a sudslock during the spin, simply halts operations for half an hour then resumes filling half to the glass with water and draining right away, so far it happened only twice | ||
| Post# 477138 , Reply# 4 11/23/2010 at 16:59 (4,895 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 477202 , Reply# 6 11/24/2010 at 07:01 (4,894 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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It sudslocks sometimes but don't most washers? | ||
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Post# 477211 , Reply# 7 11/24/2010 at 09:06 (4,894 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York) |
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| Post# 477228 , Reply# 9 11/24/2010 at 10:47 (4,894 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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My Primus really does not suds lock. It will just continue to fill the drum with water and tumble the clothes in one direction until the water conditon is satisfied. The suds just by pass the dump valve through the drain pipe. | ||
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Post# 477244 , Reply# 11 11/24/2010 at 11:23 (4,894 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Our Electrolux from 2006... I don't really know because it practically never suds-locks. It does have s slight tendency to water-lock, though. It usually does its three tumbles, a spin burst, three more tumbles and then revs up rather quickly to full spin. It doesn't bother about water- or suds-lock during the burst but if it happens during the second ramp up, it'll stop draining and wait for the drum to stop before draining and spinning resumes. The next rinse will have more water.
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| Post# 477255 , Reply# 12 11/24/2010 at 12:32 (4,894 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
V-Zug  | ||
| Post# 477257 , Reply# 13 11/24/2010 at 12:42 (4,894 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK) | ||
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Gary Must be that Tesco Value washing powder again! | ||
| Post# 477267 , Reply# 15 11/24/2010 at 13:13 (4,894 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Tesco Value washing powder | ||
| Post# 477269 , Reply# 16 11/24/2010 at 13:29 (4,894 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.) | ||
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Tesco Value Surely not! I much prefer the Easy range of detergents. Made proudly in glorious Consett, co.Durham I do believe! Gotta support my local businesses and all that ya know! ;) | ||
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Post# 477285 , Reply# 17 11/24/2010 at 14:42 (4,894 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hey.... | ||
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Post# 477287 , Reply# 18 11/24/2010 at 14:52 (4,894 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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V-Zug...
Well av never been soooo affronted in all my life!!!!...Mind you the Zug is that good it probably would say that...LOL..er still want you amp picking up...Lol
Jon, you are quite right the biggest cause of sudz lock I find is that the machine starts to spin with soapy water catching the drum... and the machines that go up to a fast spin and wobble tend to cause it more!!! The Zug & Miele along with the tol Gorenje do the slow ramp up with excellent stability control and a fast flowing pump...this allows excess foam to be reduced considerably, in fact the Zug does a 2min interim spin which literally sucks the sudz out of the drum...then switches on the water valve as its coasting down so all the drum gets a sloshing of water...The Foam Detection allows extra rinses + spins until sudz are cleared. INCOMPATABILITY WARNING: This Picture May Cause Offense.....We Apologise...It Will Never Happen Again !!! 
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Post# 477293 , Reply# 19 11/24/2010 at 15:08 (4,894 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 Calypso senses oversudsing by excess motor current during spin. It runs a rinse/suds-kill sequence, up to 3 times. Goes into pause mode with SL error if unable to clear the condition. I've noticed it run the suds routine on two occasions that I can recall ... the first time was when running a test cycle after finishing the refurbish/repairs on it, caused by a very small dose of Tide Coldwater Powder, LOL. F&P has an oversuds fault code, but it goes into pause without running a recovery routine. Suggestion is either wait for the suds to dissipate, or reset for rinses as needed. I've never seen an oversuds fault happen in 11 years of using F&P machines. Not sure how it senses the condition, I assume by motor current, the water level sensor could also be involved. | ||
| Post# 477305 , Reply# 20 11/24/2010 at 15:54 (4,894 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.) | ||
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Panasonic front loader Seems to cope fine. It appears to do a combined static drain and spray fill. | ||
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Post# 477421 , Reply# 23 11/24/2010 at 23:59 (4,893 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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What Dustin Said | ||
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Post# 477449 , Reply# 24 11/25/2010 at 10:53 (4,893 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Sometimes towels in the W1918 and W1986 will cause extra suds. If I catch this, I partially pull out the dispenser drawer, insert a hose and add some water to flush away the suds while the pump is on. | ||
| Post# 477464 , Reply# 25 11/25/2010 at 11:56 (4,893 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys) | ||
hotpoint 95622
Sudslock, one of the biggest headaches I have had to consider greatly when programming my project machine. One thing I found is the if the machine went into distribute from the start of the draining it was a huge problem on the first rinse, I over come this by tumble draining then distributing when the tub was complete empty, then a short sharp spin stop and allow to drain then repeat, with each rinse increase the time of the second spins.
If you can bare the tediousness of this video is shows the first rinse and the small sudslock. CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint95622's LINK | ||
| Post# 477468 , Reply# 26 11/25/2010 at 12:15 (4,893 days old) by HooverKeymatic (England) | ||
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Great responses guys! Keep them coming! :) | ||
| Post# 477541 , Reply# 27 11/25/2010 at 19:47 (4,893 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.) | ||
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lol, MIke You'll notice I'm holding them at arms length, don't want it too close to my person! | ||
| Post# 477912 , Reply# 28 11/27/2010 at 18:36 (4,891 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
One could argue..... | ||
| Post# 477913 , Reply# 29 11/27/2010 at 18:40 (4,891 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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I agree....
....with Logix.
Our Zanussi made Westinghouse follows the 3 tumble, spin routine, but you have to be quite heavy handed to make it suds lock at all....though it does tend to do it more with 'quick wash' engaged than a normal cycle. This is due to more water being let in without draining at the 32-34 'minutes remaining' mark which, along with standard agitation, tends to make more foam. | ||
| Post# 477936 , Reply# 30 11/27/2010 at 20:25 (4,891 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
My Affinity will continue through the wash cycle and the suds will overflow automatically into the drain hose. When it goes into the first spin, it will stop for a few minutes,the pump restarts and it goes into the spin mode.My last Frigidaire front loader would bellow suds all through the dispenser try and it would cause a mess on the machine and my floor.
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| Post# 479148 , Reply# 32 12/3/2010 at 07:24 (4,885 days old) by Northernmary (Huddersfield - West Yorkshire) | ||
Miele Premier 500 
this is my machine handling a suds lock with one daz tablet
NorthernMary CLICK HERE TO GO TO Northernmary's LINK | ||
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Post# 479153 , Reply# 34 12/3/2010 at 08:03 (4,885 days old) by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany) |
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My Miele W 435 normally handles them brilliantly, it slows down and then accelerates very carfully and slowly again.
But sometimes when doing a smallish load, it just ignores the sudslock and behaves like in Northernmary`s video. I find that very frustrating, considering the price I paid for it. However I found out that when it is tilted a bit backwards things are going much better than with a perfectly leveled machine. | ||
| Post# 780378 , Reply# 35 8/31/2014 at 06:41 (3,518 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK) | ||
Sorry to rejuvenate an old thread... but this is probably the problem im having on my maytag...
www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... It will abort the cycle after trying to spin 3 times during the rinse stages as a "check water outlet" | ||
| Post# 780423 , Reply# 37 8/31/2014 at 16:11 (3,518 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool) | ||
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| Post# 780436 , Reply# 38 8/31/2014 at 17:13 (3,518 days old) by iej (.... ) | ||
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The Samsung Ecobubble 12kg just displays a message about Removing Suds and just seems to sit there for ages while the suds naturally go away. It then does a slow spin and a rinse. | ||
| Post# 780566 , Reply# 39 9/1/2014 at 04:30 (3,517 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Tesco
This is a bit ironic as I was taking the piss out of Tesco powder back then, but nearly two years ago Mat (Cardiff) recommended Tesco powder as being a good cleaner but also having very low suds, I had found that waitrose powder had the same qualities.
It took me a long time to actually buy some Tesco powder, as I had always used Persil/Daz/Ariel all of which cleaned well but produced too many suds in all my machines. Once I tried it out and found that its cleaning power is as good as the expensive powders and also no suds lock on towels or anything I haven't looked back it is now nearly two years down the line, and whilst my washing powder collection is dull as there are only two types of powder there Tesco Bio/colour they are all I need. I forgot to say about Robs tip using fabric conditioner helps, Mike told me this aswell and indeed it does help with sudsy powders | ||
| Post# 780570 , Reply# 41 9/1/2014 at 05:12 (3,517 days old) by iej (.... ) | ||
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We'd a De Dietrich machine that would just stop for up to 15 mins then, pump, fill, tumble, drain until it was happy the suds were under control when it would move on to a slow spin before completing the cycle. It seemed to work. How do they detect suds ? | ||
| Post# 780649 , Reply# 42 9/1/2014 at 13:08 (3,517 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
Oh... this is my kinda thing :-P
When I get a new machine, the first thing I do is a suds test. I achieve this by doubling up the recommended dose of detergent. I'm impressed by both my Hoovers as they both came up smelling of roses having created some severe conditions.
I tried with the Hoover Nextra years ago where I almost triplicated the detergent load. As expected, the machine filled with bubbles, and it sudslocked on the interim spins, however the spin was halted and it was followed by a couple of minute pause. This situation triggered the emergency water level, which is not an additional rinse, but just a high water level rinse which should theoretically help to dilute the detergent further... and it did! This behaviour was repeated twice and, by the end of the cycle (3 rinses altogether), the suds were all gone. More recently I tried another sudsy experiment by using high sudsing top loading washer detergent in it... again, it got really messy inside... but only inside... until it was all clear (I used the extra rinse facility this time and the washer carried out 5 rinses). I tried a similar experiment on the Hoover Dynamic where I quantuplicated the recommended dose of detergent, and she too, came up trumps... and most astonishingly... with only 1 high water level rinse followed by a normal medium water level one. I was so proud :-P | ||
| Post# 780817 , Reply# 44 9/2/2014 at 04:13 (3,516 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Tesco Powder Update
Further to the comments I made about Tesco powder being very low suds, I have taken two pictures of a load on the first rinse just to show how few suds there are.
The first picture is of the machine having just filled with water after pumping out the wash water, the second is the load tumbling. As you can see suds are not a problem with this powder Why the brand leaders cannot be like this puzzles me Gary This post was last edited 09/02/2014 at 06:58 | ||
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