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Post# 478002   11/28/2010 at 05:35 (4,897 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        

Hiya folks,

Have a Maytag Centennial -maytag.com.au/products_MDC1305AAW... which has the corkscrew type agitator which I find terribly harsh on all clothes...

Was wondering if there were any other types of agitators that I could get to suit my machine - without the corkscrew?

I'm a huge fan of Speed Queen washers - and like their 'plain jane' style agitators and was wondering if there were any like that which may suit my machine?

Any suggestions for suppliers in Australia also - would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers
Ste





Post# 478025 , Reply# 1   11/28/2010 at 10:22 (4,897 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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i used to have a simlar maytag centennial washer here in the states and i was able to change out the cork srew agitator out to this on that in that link. it's a two piece agitator with a lint filter in the top half of it. and it realy catches the lint realy good.

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Post# 478029 , Reply# 2   11/28/2010 at 10:29 (4,897 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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and here is the link to the fabric softener dispenser that will fit that agitator.

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Post# 478128 , Reply# 3   11/28/2010 at 16:14 (4,897 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
I think I've

seen some Youtube videoes with those in them? Many thanks Chris - however do you know if there is any solid vane type ones? The flex vanes types are good - but I'd like to see if there are any other options before ordering from the US...

Chris are you able to confirm if the following videos (probably from a member of this site) are the same agitator?





Appreciate your help!
Cheers
Ste


Post# 478133 , Reply# 4   11/28/2010 at 16:41 (4,897 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hi Steve,

If you go with the straight vane agitator, you'll need to start underloading the machine slightly. They still work fine, but all the cleaning happens at the bottom of the tub and there then isnt the corkscrew to assist the load to circulate. If you load normally, it'll just stop circulating.

Having had the Straight vane in a 24" machine and the Corkscrew in a full size machine, the corkscrew is less rough as the clothes constantly circulate, rather than sitting on the bottom getting beaten before slowly moving around.

The DD machines are generally rough compared to the long strong aussie machines, all changing to the straight vane agitator will do is slow the rollover down.

Just another perspective. They clean great, but it's easy to overwash.

Love the landcruiser by the way, we've got a 2009 Sahara that loves beach trips.

Nathan


Post# 478135 , Reply# 5   11/28/2010 at 17:01 (4,897 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I've never understood why so many people think the auger itself is a cause of roughness. All it does is rotate 90° or so on the backstroke (or frontstroke, whichever) to promote the load circulating down to the lower fins where the cleaning action occurs. It doesn't even come into play on the low water level. Rollover is what everybody wants regards to their agitators, no?

Flexing fins reduce aggressiveness ... being as they flex under a heavy load.


Post# 478141 , Reply# 6   11/28/2010 at 17:32 (4,896 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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yes you can get a str8 vane agitator that is one piece. the link below is the part your looking for part number 63377 if you search on ebay you will be able to find the same part for a lot cheaper. But, I must say since i used to have the same washer, it doesn't not have any kind of lint filter on it from the manufacturer. Also it is true you will have to watch how you load the machine so you still have roll over, but i can tell you I was able to watch 8 large bath towels at one time in the machine and still had great turn over.


also there is a fabric softner dispenser that fits this agitator part number 63594


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Post# 478142 , Reply# 7   11/28/2010 at 17:33 (4,896 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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pic of softner dispenser

Post# 478144 , Reply# 8   11/28/2010 at 17:36 (4,896 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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I have a video on youtube using the excat str8 vane agitator in the maytag centennial i used to have. below is the link

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Post# 478164 , Reply# 9   11/28/2010 at 20:12 (4,896 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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It's the washing machine, not specifically the agitator. I ought to know, I had a DD Kenmore (aka Lady Kenmore (Shredmore)) for 20 years. How long are you setting the washer for wash times? If you are setting the machine beyond 8 miinutes for wash on cotton/sturdy or 6 minutes on casual/wrinkle free/permanent press you are beating your washing to death. If washing is too soiled to get effectively clean in that amount of time in these machines, then soak for a while before completing the wash phase. Me, I ended up washing everything on gentle except for towels, underwear, and jeans. And only fill the machine about 3/4 full of washing when doing anything on gentle or you won't have any rollover.

Post# 478167 , Reply# 10   11/28/2010 at 20:27 (4,896 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Thanks for the input guys!

I appreciate all opinions - however I probably should clarify for DADoES, as I don't believe it's the 'screw' so to speak that is rough on clothes - I believe the whole design concept in my particular machine is rough in general.

The fast stroke - combined with an agressive (merely in my opinion) based agitator tends to be really really rough. Maybe I'm just used to a smoother, straight vane agitator like in the older Speed Queens. (They didn't have flex-vanes either) I find they still have wonderful turnover - without having the literally beat the you know what out of everything...

I often find large bed sheets jammed into the bottom of the Whirltag bowl - just because the bottom of the agitator doesn't promote roll-over. They'd be twisted into such a tight mess that I'd have to re-reinse the load again... I never had this problem with other (Speed Queen or any other) machines...

However - as I said - I'm all ears and am wanting to hear all opinions so I can make an informed choice about what to get...

(Currently thinking to just get another Speed Queen!!!) However husband can't justify the expense when there's nothing wrong with the Whirltag.

Chris - or anyone else - know of any other options without the 'flex vane' fins on the base? Sorry - I'm not up to speed with the correct terminology.

I've taken the screw part off the existing agitator - and it still works well - but not on full loads - exactly as Nathan observed.

Maybe I should just go and purchase a Speed Queen??

Nathan do you know if an old model Agitator from say an Aussie version of a 207 would fit??


Post# 478170 , Reply# 11   11/28/2010 at 20:45 (4,896 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hi Steve,

It's a very different mounting system to the proper maytags, the centre post is much taller in the Whirlpools.

I've never had an issue with Sheets balling up in the bottom, they should move down the post in the middle and then come back up around the sides of the tub. (Think like a big O) Not backwards and forwards like in a long stroke machine. Are you dropping them in, or wrapping them around the tub?

Nathan


Post# 478176 , Reply# 12   11/28/2010 at 20:56 (4,896 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Definately dipping!!

However our linen is heavy - I think all 1250 Thread count - and king size...

Often they will gown down the middle as you say Nathan - rarely then do they come back up... It's like they're too heavy to push back up the outside of the tub - then they just sit in the bottom getting mashed into a big twist. When it does this - I can hear the transmission working hard, making a horrid metallic clanking sound, heard from the other end of the house!!

However this sound is not uncommon from what Maytag have stated - that it is normal to do that under heavy load...???


Post# 478185 , Reply# 13   11/28/2010 at 21:30 (4,896 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

The direct Drive clanking is part of the experience :) My understanding is that its gotten louder in later models as they've used a thinner transmission oil.

For sheets that big, maybe you should look at a Miele or Speed Queen FL machine. That's a lot of heavy fabric to try and wash in a TL like that. Does it get any better if you only wash 1 at a time? Just to try it out and see?


Post# 478196 , Reply# 14   11/28/2010 at 22:04 (4,896 days old) by cphifer5115 (Jackson, TN)        

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as far as i know all the vanes at the bottom are flex vanes on all the DD machines that whirlpool built.

Post# 478199 , Reply# 15   11/28/2010 at 22:08 (4,896 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Do not wrap the sheets around the agitator. Simply pick one sheet up by the middle of itand lift off the gorund and place in the machine. Do not wrap around the agitator. That should take up about 1/2 of the side of the agitator and bowl. Pick up the other sheet the same way and place opposite in the bowl. Pillowcases on the other two quarters. If you're adding anything else to the wash load, you are overloading the machine. These are Whilpool produced products and design, nothing like the Aussie Maytag A207. Completely different beast and approach to washing laundry.

Post# 478201 , Reply# 16   11/28/2010 at 22:32 (4,896 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I routinely washed a set of queen-size sheets in my KA with three pillow cases and several shirts (sometimes 5 or 6) to make a full load. Never had a problem with poor performance.  Just sayin' ...


Post# 478205 , Reply# 17   11/28/2010 at 23:10 (4,896 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Wow - the knowledge here is awesome!

I would never have guessed that about the change in transmission oil being used. How on earth do you find out about stuff like that Nathan???

Appnut - as mentioned earlier - I'm not wrapping any items around the agitator - merely dropping them in around it. I wish I had one of the old models - then I'd be in Washer Heaven!

DADoES - I wish I had your luck - as I'm just trying to do the same - however I seem to be having nothing but trouble! I'm just saying that in my particular machine (Who knows - maybe something else could be causing the problem???) I find the action particularly rough and noisy. But then again - if I knew that before I purchased - I wouldn't have chosen this machine. I was also unsure as to if these machines were identical to those in the US - I remember seeing different models at Home Depot last winter - however nothing the same as mine.

Nathan as you've suggest - I've tried washing the sheets individually - however I must admit I get frustrated at this thought - considering by Aussie retail standards it's supposed to be somewhat 'Heavy Duty' (notice you don't see that anywhere these days!) and I should be able to fill the machine (not overfill of course) and wash an entire load without any problems. And considering the steep price tag (in excess of $1,200) I'd expected a better built and quieter machine.

It's a shame - as I would have opted for something different if I knew this would be the outcome, especially coming from a 15 year old Speed Queen to an Electrolux Front Loader (Had 6 of them in 6 months due to fault) then buying the Maytag. Speed Queen was fine - if not noisy - but otherwise still going strong... Regret getting rid of it!

It's also very odd - as we wash other bulky items - and probably not quite as heavy - without too much fuss.... I'm thinking with all this info that my bed linen is just simply too heavy for it??

How does everyone else go with heavy linens?


Post# 478215 , Reply# 18   11/28/2010 at 23:59 (4,896 days old) by appnut (TX)        
and I should be able to fill the machine

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I hear ya. I grew up with machines that allowed me to match very closely the proper water level to load size in the 1964 Norge15, the 1970 Kenmore 800 (belt-drive Whirlpool product), my 1978 GE FilterFlo, and my mom's equivalent GE Filterflo. And I had the same expectation for the Lady Shredmore. I'd fill the machine loosely up to the top of the bowl, right under the lip of the bowl, and the machine would have so much extra water in it while agitating. That drove me nuts, just too much wasted water for the load, so I added more to get what I considered a "normal" amount of water, rollover, and laundry in the machine. But it was just too harsh on fabrics loading it like I used to do with other machines. Numerous people here told me I needed to give it more room of circulation so it wouldn't be so harsh. I also started using gentle 90% of the time and like I said, only filling the machine with laundry about 3/4 full at most to have sufficient rollover. Just a huge waste of water for what I was getting washed each load like that. And my water bills showed it. All in all, just went wayy too much against the way I was raised to fill the machine without overloading. If you see Roberts video on the load of darks in his 1964 Norge, that's bout what a load looked like when I did laundry in our Norge15. Now I will add, my mom always under utilized capacity, except when she washed sheets. She'd always start the machinne to filling, add detergent, and then go off and find stuff to put in the machine. Sometimes she'd have to turn the machine off after it had filled all the way up. Those scenarios, she wayyy underloaded for a full wter level. My dad knew she under capacitied all the time wasting water, drove him nuts. He always liked it when I did laundry. Was done far more efficiently. Personally, I have no regrets moving to a front loader. I hope I never have to go back to a regular type top loader. If I did, the only ones I would consider would be a Speed Queen or the F&P with the regular type agitator. I found DADoES' to be fairly reasonable on fabric care when I did the 6 or 9 loads of my laundry at his house at the 2006 wash-in. I put more in his machine than I did in the Shredmore by that time, per load. And didn't worry about fabric damage.



This post was last edited 11/29/2010 at 01:16
Post# 478240 , Reply# 19   11/29/2010 at 04:47 (4,896 days old) by twinniefan (Sydney Australia)        
Heavy sheets

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Hi Steve,
Iknow this is probably not much help to you, but in my L.G. T.L.we drop the sheets or doona covers in 1 on each side of the drum and I use the ''silent" cycle ,although much longer wash time, (approx 75 mins.)it is a combination of part vigorous agitation and part gentle agitation,(bear in mind though this is a pulsator type machine, not a full size agitator.)and I tend to override the machines electronic water level selector and add extra water up to the next level just to add a bit of extra buffer during the wash cycle.
I would tend to agree with Appnut,try using a shorter wash cycle or if you have to use the gentle cycle.
Remember the trusty old Hoovermatic wash time of just 4 minutes used to be sufficient for most things.
Hope this helps.
Regards from the other Steve.


Post# 478278 , Reply# 20   11/29/2010 at 09:48 (4,896 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Streakers:
If you can tell me how to go about shipping the agitator above to you from the US, I have one sitting in my shed that you are welcome to.


Post# 478336 , Reply# 21   11/29/2010 at 13:33 (4,896 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hi Steve,

Let me know if you want to try out the Miele and see how they fit and wash. I have to say I'm a bit curious myself :) I can fit 4 queen size 500 threadcount sheets and 8 pillow cases in a load, so it shouldnt be a problem.

Cheers

Nathan


Post# 478411 , Reply# 22   11/29/2010 at 21:22 (4,895 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Shipping

Gee Supremewhirlpool - I have no idea who to use for shipping - let alone what the costs would be! I can only assume that US mail would be able to send things to Australia??

Thankyou so much for the offer - however I'm of no help in regards to a carrier?

Perhaps someone else might be able to chime in and provide some extra info for us??

Steve - you know funny you should say it - but I find I still can get better results out of a wringer or twin tub machine - even with the bigger items... However using the delicate agitation doesn't really help - there's no turn over then at all. Funny - I think I'll have to buy cheaper sheets!!! LOL

Nathan - thankyou for the offer - I will keep that in mind if I can't get this sorted...

Maybe I'll just have to use the Samsung twinnie I've got in the garage!!!


Post# 478414 , Reply# 23   11/29/2010 at 22:06 (4,895 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Oh and Nathan,

We should all go 4wding one weekend! We're part of a Gay 4wd Enthusiast Group which has a lot of fun! If you're on facebook - feel free to add me to see the pics of the mud-slinging fun! Cheers Steve Brazil

Post# 478415 , Reply# 24   11/29/2010 at 22:13 (4,895 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
US Postage

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Hi Steve

I think USPS (United States Parcel Service) would be your best option: i've had items shipped from the states at fairly reasonable prices.

Also, if you hate the Whirltag so much, i could always sell you an older Wilkins Servis with the long stroke wash action, just like the Speed Queen. I've got one of the last true long stroke Maytag's too in storage, but don't think i want to give that one up! Lol

Cheers
Leon


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Post# 478430 , Reply# 25   11/30/2010 at 00:24 (4,895 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Wilkins!

Oh Leon thankyou so much - however I'd hate to use an old machine as a daily driver - I would hate to think it broke and I couldn't fix it!!!!

But would definately be fun for those loads when I want something a little different....

Want to email some piccies and a price?

Cheers
Ste



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