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Thread Number: 31783
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Post# 479417 12/4/2010 at 18:32 (4,889 days old) by chachp  (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Well I picked up the machine today from Habitat for Humanity. When I turned it on it's back to see the bottom this is what I found.
The inside is in great condition and the racks are near perfect. How bad does this look (Pics 7, 8 and 9)? What do ya'll think I should do at this point. I have done nothing but wipe it down. Should I go ahead and put some water in the bottom and see if I can determine there the lead is? Would one of you know where the leak is by looking at the photos? I'd sure appreciate some advice. CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK | ||
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| Post# 479429 , Reply# 1 12/4/2010 at 19:18 (4,889 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati) | ||
i bought my aunt a g.e. potscrubber 
in the 70's and it lasted a long time! i'll bet there is some life in yours yet.
it would be my guess the leak is around the pump seal and with that horizontal motor you might not have any motor damage. i would imagine pump seals are still available. i use partselect.com and repairclinic.com quite a bit. and there is always larry in parma at modern parts house. love the pics, tub looks great, love the green color on the silverware basket. if you are up to it i would pull motor and pump and take it all apart and clean it up. and replace that seal. i have replaced pump seals on those a few times and it's not that big a deal. that's my 2 cents. lets see what some of the other members say. | ||
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Post# 479446 , Reply# 3 12/4/2010 at 20:32 (4,888 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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GE Potscrubber! | ||
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Post# 479515 , Reply# 4 12/5/2010 at 07:38 (4,888 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Hi Steve!
I know it's been a while. My Kitchen Aid has been running great and has been a great second machine. Thanks again for your help with that.
On to another challenge. I put some water in the diahwasher and let it sit for a while. I hooked up the drain hose and it drained fine. So I filled the bottom of the machine and chose the Rinse and Hold and off she went. Lots of interesting sounds in there I may just have to see if I can rig up a Plexiglass door for it. The timer seems to be fine. It clicks and clacks and advances a lot like the Kitchen Aid. However, there was a small drip only when it was draining in the general area of the staining and rust. I'll see if I can make a small video of the drip. The machine is in my utility room on a tile floor so I think I am going to take your advice and put a small pan under the drip and just run it like that for a week or two. I want to make sure everything else is working before I invest in the pump but so far so good. I have to run to Home Depot for a fitting to hook up the water line but is seems like a fun machine. I still love the Kitchen Aid but have to admit the thought of having a second dishwasher with a wash arm under the top rack does remove some loading restrictions. My everyday dishes are huge and thick and enough concave that they just don't work in the Kitchen Aid unless I put nothing above them. I have to angle them to the front and even at that they don't fit that well. I'm eager to see how they fit in this machine. I find myself have to swap dirty dishes between the Boschmore and the KA and with this I may not have to. I entertain quite a bit and it will be nice to have both of these flexible options. Steve, how did you find the part number for the pump? I have been looking on line for a User Manual or Parts List or Wiriing diagram or anything for this machine and so far I have come up with nothing. | ||
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Post# 479603 , Reply# 5 12/5/2010 at 14:07 (4,888 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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FRIST GE PLASTIC TUB DW
These are interesting machines we have the other slightly cheaper version at our warehouse. The machine you have has had more use than you think and defiantly needs a new pump seal at a minimum. The good news is that GE has used a similar pump and motor in most of thier DWers since 1967 and good used assemblies are a dime a dozen. If you want to use this as a daily driver I would look for one of the newer square motor assemblies that has the capacitor on it. The newer motor and pump use 1/3 the power and the machine will rinse even better with the smaller pump housing.
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Post# 479632 , Reply# 6 12/5/2010 at 16:14 (4,888 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Cool machine!
Wow - I have never seen a GE Potscrubber without the centre tower. Bet this baby will scrub baked on stuff from casseroles loaded on the top rack with ease! Those racks look gorgeous and how cool that the upper one is adjustable. I don't what it was about the GE's of this style that made the pump so likely to leak....
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| Post# 479633 , Reply# 7 12/5/2010 at 16:15 (4,888 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL) | ||
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Easy said and done Ralph, Like John has said, these pumps are basically the same since the 60's and the link above appears to be the service kit to replace them all. There were even some on there for less that 20 bucks so shop it on ebay if you want and see what happens. | ||
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Post# 480623 , Reply# 8 12/9/2010 at 20:07 (4,883 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I am no longer a virgin!!
OK so now that I have your attention! I installed my first dishwasher pump. It wasn't nearly as difficult as I thought it would be. I went with the drain pump/motor assenbly because from what I was told and what I read it was the best way to go. I picked one up for $70 (thanks Steve!!). The other reason I went with this option is because it had the install instructions.
So anyway, I cannot believe how quiet this motor is compared to the other. When it's draining you barely hear anything at all and when it's washing you hear all these great water sounds. I have got to find out how to make a plexiglass door for this thing. Thanks for all your help. The only other issue I have is I think the gasket needs to be replaced. I noticed some rust on the bottom of the door and a few drips on the floor from that area. Other than that everything else seems to work. The soap dish opens as it is supposed to. I have ordered a Use and Care Manual from GE. I am eager to read about the cycles. Thanks again all. The recent pics start at #10. CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK | ||
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Post# 480629 , Reply# 9 12/9/2010 at 20:55 (4,883 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 480630 , Reply# 10 12/9/2010 at 20:56 (4,883 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Potscrubber ll! | ||
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Post# 481121 , Reply# 12 12/12/2010 at 06:13 (4,881 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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UPDATE
Well this machine is running like a top. I have resolved all the leaks. I fixed the door leak by adjusting (thanks Google) the door latch and the new Pump Assembly has resolved the leaks underneath. I still can't get over how quite the machine is compared to how it was.
I have not received the Use and Care yet but bigalsf sent me what they sent him which is a guide to loading and using soap but not what I was after. When I called they didn't tell me the Use and Care was not available but they did tell him that so we'll see what they send. I am beginning to really love this dishwasher. I have been such a hard core Vintage KA fan for so long I never opened my mind to another. I thought all GEs had that awful tower up the middle. It's cleaning really well so far although I haven't done a real Bob load yet. In the next few days I'm sure I'll have one. All that is left for me is to make a Plexiglass door so I can see what's going on in there and hopefully post a fun vid or two. Anyone have any suggestions on how to start? - Do I get a big piece of paper and trace one out and then get it cut? - The gasket on this machine is on the door so do I trace the door or try to trace the inset of the machine itself where the door fits in? A sheet of plexiglass that big is $40+ from what I can tell so I wouldn't want to have too many rejects. | ||
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Post# 481147 , Reply# 13 12/12/2010 at 10:23 (4,881 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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GE Potscrubber2! | ||
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Post# 481150 , Reply# 14 12/12/2010 at 11:05 (4,881 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I agree!
I am seriously considering moving my Boschmore to the utility room and replacing it with this machine. It would go better with my kitchen than the new SS job. I want to use it for a little bit first and make sure it's OK. This is a dishwasher I can put in the kitchen because the other half can only seem to deal with a machine with a multilevel wash and no tower. He just couldn't get the hang of the KA with only the lower wash arm. I wish I had taken pictures of how that thing was loaded. He kept trying to put the big dishes on the side rather than down the middle. One day he was so frustrated he just set the stack on the rack and left it. He would try to adjust the rack higher and of course they still wouldn't fit. It's hard enough to get him to do dishes in the first place so I want to keep it simple.
I can scan the manual and I'll send it along to whomever wants one. | ||
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Post# 481160 , Reply# 15 12/12/2010 at 12:00 (4,881 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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We had the lower model Potscrubber II in our new house in Denver. We moved in in August 1977, and the GSD950 (I think it was) was selected over the standard builder model (those dial-in-the-door GEs with the greenish tinted porcelain tubs that people so dislike here). We had a KA KDS-17A in our previous house in Michigan which my Mom loved. It had replaced a BOL 1967/68 Hotpoint one-knob wonder which with daily use limped along for about 7 years. The GE was selected in Denver as the best alternative to another KA which our builder could not get for a decent price as his appliance supplier did not carry KA.
We loved the GE - the forced air drying was great, especially in Denver - you could turn off the element heat, and still have dry dishes when the cycle was done with such low humidity out there. We never had any complaints with the machine, though it proved the door wasn't totally spill-proof when I put about two tablespoons of Palmolive dish soap in there to "boost" performance - suds everywhere just like out of an episode of "I Love Lucy" or the "Brady Bunch". | ||
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Post# 481176 , Reply# 16 12/12/2010 at 13:09 (4,881 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Chach, glad thins are wiorking out so well. Don't be so hard on your other half. Not many really know how to load a dishwasher. I feel about vintage KitchenAids the way Peter feels about any dishwasher with a tower. I never thought towers did all that bad, except for Hotpoints simply bercause they lacked the "oomph" to get into the corners. I vey rarely had any problems with cleaning of the top rack, even corners, with any GE. I think those one-level wash wonder KAs are useless for day-to-day use unless you enjoyw washing pots, pans, and bowls by hand. It's so easy to make those appear relatively "full" when they aren't. Trust me, I've seen decades of tha evidence and it drives me nuts. Couldn't live with one. The only KA I could tolerate now is a 19. I keep my water heater at 120 or slightly lower and need water heating. And vintage requires 140 or higher. And I agree with Tomturbomatic, KA should have kept the water circulating during the heating phases to improve washiing results. AndrewInOrlando agrees with his own actual experience.
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Post# 481276 , Reply# 17 12/13/2010 at 04:17 (4,880 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I agree Bob!
As crazy as it sounds I have acutally chosen which dishes I would use for a gathering based on whether or not I thought I'd be using the KA as an extra dishwasher that day. I like to entertain and have a few sets of differnt kinds of dishes. My favorite are these dishes by Southern Living that are over sized and a litte concave. Just enough that I could not get them in the KA without tipping them forward. I would have to raise the upper rack so high my glasses wouldn't fit (they too are a little oversized) and because of the shape of the plate I couldn't put anything above as the water was blocked.
The older sets of dishes that I have all fit well in there so I guess maybe the machine was designed to fit what was popular at the time. I will always love the single arm Kitchen Aid because that's what I grew up with after a short stint with a Youngstown Jet Tower. But for a daily driver I have to go with one that has a multi level wash. I still love the look of a fully loaded KA with the plates loaded down the middle I guess I just don't want to live with it anymore because there are other options. I don't know if you rmember this or not Bob but we met at a WashIn in Tuscon a few years back. This KA that I speak of was my first Vintage machine and I won that eBay auction while I was at the WashIn. I remember all of us standing around the computer as the last few seconds counted down. That must have been before I knew about auctionsniper.com. | ||
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