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Post# 81352 , Reply# 1 9/2/2005 at 18:32 (6,804 days old) by fnelson487  (Palm Springs, CA) |
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My Absolute Favorite Dishwasher
Replaced a brand new TOL KitchenAid tall tub with this KDS-17 which is running now. Washes great and dries too. Every dishwasher has its loading quirks. Gansky in Omaha has a KDC-14 that he loves as well. It's all a matter of what you get used to. These machines were built like Sherman tanks. Amazing, my almost 30 year old machine, still looks great and washes like a trouper. Bought another one just for a backup.
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Post# 81367 , Reply# 3 9/2/2005 at 21:24 (6,804 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Tolivac - I have history with the KDS-17 | ||
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Post# 81368 , Reply# 4 9/2/2005 at 21:32 (6,804 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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BTW Rinso | ||
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Post# 81412 , Reply# 6 9/3/2005 at 07:35 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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I think you are thinking of the KDS 15 | ||
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Post# 81440 , Reply# 8 9/3/2005 at 12:34 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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I Have One Of The New KitchenAids
The KDS-17 replaced the new tall-tub design KitchenAid (TOL SS)now sitting in my basement. My only gripe with the new ones is the lack of flow-through drying. The new KitchenAids wash great and hold everything but the kitchen sink. It would take me at least a week to fill the thing. They run long (well over an hour) and inevitably left the dishes wet. I think that, like the Mieles, you are supposed to adjust the rinse agent dispenser but ended up leaving the machine open to dry the dishes or using a dish towel. I don't know about the Whirlpool machines, but KitchenAid brands their machines for Kenmore as well. I think that the Whirlpools may be different. (Shouldn't talk about that here) The old KitchenAid design was unique. The KDS-17 was the pinnacle of the single wash arm design. Required some loading engineering not to block the top, but you got used to it. Cleans like nothing else and leaves the dishes bone dry in less than 40 minutes, unless you used the "Party Cycles" which cleaned even quicker. They stumbled a bit when they added the upper wash arm, but perfected that design by the 21 model which I had for years in California. Glad I can still find these machines in great shape. Mine is a brushed chrome machine. Love it!! I also have a KDS-14P in my laundry room. The old cast iron single wash arm and much smaller wash chamber. They wash as well and even faster. They really take some loading engineering. Of all that I have had, the POD KDS17 is my favorite. | ||
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Post# 81441 , Reply# 9 9/3/2005 at 12:43 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Here's An Add Touting the Tilting Rack | ||
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Post# 81444 , Reply# 10 9/3/2005 at 13:15 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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OK - Here she is in all her chrome glory! | ||
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Post# 81445 , Reply# 11 9/3/2005 at 13:18 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Inside Ms. Tilty-Top | ||
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Post# 81456 , Reply# 12 9/3/2005 at 13:48 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Forgot to Mention | ||
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Post# 81469 , Reply# 14 9/3/2005 at 17:33 (6,803 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Your KDs-17 is beautiful, Fred! I always thought those chrome panels were so elegant. Although a little harder to accomplish on the 17 than your 14 series KA, you can remove the upper rack completely to wash larger items which was not possible on later versions with the center wash arm. Have you ever washed vac parts in your machines? My Kirby dealer wants to buy a dishwasher for that purpose - a vintage 17 would work perfectly for him. I have a KDS-16 in storage, but I think it's spoken for already.
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Post# 81475 , Reply# 16 9/3/2005 at 18:33 (6,803 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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I Have Never Seen a 15 in Person
I was wondering whether or not those 15s were somewhat adjustable since the 14s have two levels available for the upper rack (not tiltable though). Between the two knobs on either side of the upper rack of the 17 the advertising literature claims it to be a 9-position upper rack. I never upgraded the 18 (replaced it for a short time with reverse rack TOL Maytag electronic which blew up). Those original reverse-rack Maytags were great, but very noisy. Greg - I don't' wash my vacuum parts in the dishwasher, but Charlie does. I would probably set up a separate one in the basement. I have a KD-5 top-loading portable as well. Charlie also uses the dishwasher to wash car parts!!! Both he and his partner are very fastidious so I am surprised by that. They just bought a new KitchenAid like Kenmore and Charlie put a bunch of vacuum attachments in there. I asked if Todd went nuts, but he didn't. I guess after 15 years, he's used to it. Is that 16 built-in or convertible? I bought a 17 convertible (in Harvest Gold) which you will see in a few weeks. Just like new and purrs like a kitten. It's in the laundry room with the 14. When my friends from California came in and we had dinner, I ran all three machines (two 17s and the 14) at the same time. What a blast!! | ||
| Post# 81549 , Reply# 17 9/4/2005 at 16:44 (6,802 days old) by air-waycharlie (Whispering Glades) | ||
Vacuum Part In The Dishwasher
Fred and Greg, Yes, I do run vacuum parts through the dishwasher but they usually are vacuumed or brushed off thoroughly before they go through. I use the extra heated cycle and any really delicate parts go in the top rack and are removed to be hand dried. As far as car parts go, the last time I did that, I ran the hubcaps to the Olds 98, (1965 Town Sedan), and used Dawn dishwashing liquid. Long story short, DON'T do that! It ultimately wrecked the dishwasher from the soap not any dirt which was only finite grit. Now when I run things through the dishwasher that might be deemed, "questionable", I make sure I am home alone! And, the new Kenmore seems to be handling things fine. Charlie | ||
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Post# 81735 , Reply# 19 9/5/2005 at 17:13 (6,801 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA) |
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Cookie Sheets and Other Tall Items
Tomturbomatic - I think that putting the cookie sheets in the 18 series and later would work since the tubs were taller to accomodate the second wash arm. The upper rack on the 17 and earlier really swoop down from the center towards the left and right walls and I don't think I could maneuver cookie sheets into anything but along the sides. The 18 and later did not have as steep a slope on the upper rack. One of the things I like about the 17.
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