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Post# 482550   12/18/2010 at 17:59 (4,875 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

hello all, was wondering if anyone is familiar with the newer GE tall tub dishwashers, the bf and i are looking to replace our 1 year old frigidaire with a new dishwasher that is QUIET and cleans well. i have read many reviews and they are all posotive. the house i moved from i bought a maytag tall tub back in 2007 and LOVED it, the house we recently bought already had the new frigidaire but is getting on my nerves!!!! it is so LOUD! it cleans okay but i HATE how it alternates from the bottom rack to the top, we want stainless steel interior and i like the idea of nylon coated racks, the model we are looking at is rated at 52 decibles which is VERY quiet. our frigidaire is rated at a whopping 61 decibles.

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Post# 482551 , Reply# 1   12/18/2010 at 18:05 (4,875 days old) by toploader1984 ()        
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Post# 482559 , Reply# 2   12/18/2010 at 19:09 (4,875 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Think this will be fine. Has all the basics. Not sure how heavy amount of soil you put in your machine, i.e. if you BobLoad it not only capacity wise but also food soil wise. There has been some discussion in older threads about GE dishwashers having pretty small holes into the pump and thus not much food soil gets past it to get to the hard food disposer. I've read where AndrewInOrlando has had to remove some food debris at the end of the cycle form the bottom of the tub. YMMV. Did you also consider whirlpool-produced Kenmore Elite or Maytag which does not have the filtes, but still has the soft food disposer like I have?

Post# 482586 , Reply# 3   12/18/2010 at 20:17 (4,875 days old) by toploader1984 ()        
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we both usually just scrape the food off and load, my mom will actually rinse and rub the dishes with her hand or a cloth before loading them in the dishwasher, she thinks a dishwasher is just for sanitizing. the current frigidaire i have will actually clean a casserole pan with backed on cheese, although nothing will outclean the maytag i had. yes i do sometime bobload my dishwasher, we were considering a kitchenaid, the new whirlpool built maytags and whirlpools i am not too crazy about they are among the louder machines, the maytag model i looked at for the same price as the ge had a plastic tub and was rated at 57 decibles which isn't as quiet as i would like.

Post# 482682 , Reply# 4   12/19/2010 at 12:37 (4,874 days old) by aladude ()        

We got a PDWT500RBB Profile tall tub in May and are extremely impressed. No prerinsing, ever, and normal wash with no enhancements unless it's a special occasion.

Post# 482729 , Reply# 5   12/19/2010 at 16:40 (4,874 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
GE Tall Tub!

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I have the 7700 from 2002 and I am satified. When I redid my kitchen in 2001 I bought the kenmore tall tub (really sucked) - I gave away my WP power clean (stupid) for that. So to make a long story short I had sears switch after a hassel to the GE. I am very satified. Today you take a chance with anything you buy. I did get the model with the digital display. You may want to do at least that upgrade. Me personally I dont need the SS interior! Keep us posted.
Peter


Post# 482767 , Reply# 6   12/19/2010 at 19:08 (4,874 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
My two cents worth - just one opinion in many....

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If I could do it over again, I would NOT repeat the selection of my 2003 PDW7800. It was top of the line or nearly so back then, and I don't think GE was doing many stainless interiors yet, but the plastic tub is more than satisfactory. Unless a consumer has really lousy water service, I don't know why stainless is necessary. My family has had 9 or 10 Whirlpool / GE dishwashers since 1977 between my Mom, myself and my sister and we've not had a single issue with the tub that would justify or require stainless. One of Mom's was in service daily from 1987 until 2004/5.

On the other hand, I think there are better options than a GE tall-tub dishwasher. Previous to my current machine, I had a 199? GE Potscrubber 1200 for ten years - my most favorite dishwasher of all time. I liked it better than our KDS-17A even. My use habits didn't change AT ALL from the 1200 to the PDW-7800 (to me, PDW means Pretty Darn Worthless) nor did my detergent, but the results went downhill from stellar/perfect to worse than leaving dirty dishes out in the rain.

Since my machine sits for 5 to 7 days between uses, anything that goes in there in the first few days needs to be either nearly clean already or whatever is on the dish or pot is going to dry on there and NOT come off. The 1200 never had a problem with this, nor did my entry level Whirlpool Power Clean from the late 80s.

Recently I have had more success with the GE by selecting the "added heat" button, which helps dissolve the dried on traces. I am using extra detergent too, but I simply refuse to hand-wash items to compensate for a dishwasher's shortcomings.

My machine was an $800-something machine if purchased retail (it came with my new construction house). I wouldn't be surprised to hear of complaints on BOL appliances, but a near TOL?

I recently bought a new Kenmore dishwasher with the PowerClean module - it's in the garage waiting for the day when I have time to do the install.

Overall though, I think there are better choices out there than a GE tall tub. You may want to check the archives here for some of the previous posts on the subject.

Gordon




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Post# 482770 , Reply# 7   12/19/2010 at 19:14 (4,874 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

If you were happy with the 2007 Maytag, why don't you just go with another Maytag?

Post# 482777 , Reply# 8   12/19/2010 at 19:26 (4,874 days old) by appnut (TX)        
If you were happy with the 2007 Maytag, why don't you ju

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Allen, he's concerned about noise issues and the GE has a lower decibal rating than Maytags in his price range. Gordon, I too had a GE GSD1200 (I'm assuming yours had the rapid-advance timer and all push buttons). yes, it was a kick-ass dishwasher. Personally, if I have doubt something is oging to come clean, I'd always opt for added heat equivalency. My dishes accumulate over a 3-7 day period like you. but geneerally my Kenmore Elite with Smart Wash usually defaults to a medium heavy soil level (meaning a 140 degree main wash), but not always equivalent to Pots/Pans whereby it has 2 full post-wash rinses instead of purge and rinse. And I basically have no complaints. I did try a couple of things last week that I dind't think would come clean, and they didn't totally, even with the TurboZone. But, that's extremely rare in the almost 4 years I've had the machine.

Post# 482781 , Reply# 9   12/19/2010 at 19:36 (4,874 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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I will say this though for the GE....

I was going to edit my previous post, but instead I think this warrants a new reply....my current GE is so incredibly quiet mostly you just hear the motor hum and a hint of water splash noise.

I think part of the lack of water noise is not much is really going on in there, but the machine is incredibly quiet. I'll give it that one! So if you're not demanding on a dishwasher and it won't sit unused for many days, you may like the GE.

Gordon


Post# 482784 , Reply# 10   12/19/2010 at 19:45 (4,874 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

"the model we are looking at is rated at 52 decibles which is VERY quiet. our frigidaire is rated at a whopping 61 decibles."

Wow... here the cheapest dishwashers are 51-52dB, average being about 48, TOL being anything between 40 and 44! I guess quiet(er) dishwashers have become the norm here over the past 15 years or so.

Jon


Post# 482785 , Reply# 11   12/19/2010 at 19:55 (4,874 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Gordon I've been doing some studying on this particular model and the rewst of the GE line in this series. What I find "intersting" is the fact, again, because of energy Star requirements, the Normal cycle uses the least amount of water, other than rinse & hold. china/Crystal/Light uses more water even and so does the heavy/pots & pans. So here again, we're seeing the cycle referred to as normal ends up being the dumbest down. Kind of like on the Miele uber big washers, the normal cycle doesn't use the heating element to maintain or heat the water. And the same with the Whirlpool produced front loaders, normal/casual doesn't use the heater unjless you opt for stain treat which will gradually heat the water to 122.

Post# 482786 , Reply# 12   12/19/2010 at 19:58 (4,874 days old) by toploader1984 ()        

i think i will like the GE, too bad whirlpool makes maytag now otherwise i would buy my maytag quietpower 300 again, for 100 dollars MORE the WP made maytag had a plastic tub and a whopping 58 decibles, for a machine that it over $500 that is just rediculous. i read many reviews and alot of people don't care for WP and kenmore machines, HOWEVER i will admit kitchenaid is a good machine but can be pricey. we considered bosch but i do not care for the manual clean filter. all i have to say is no matter the choice ANYTHING is better than my current frigidaire. a good rule of thumb for dishwashers is for every 3 decibles the noise level doubles, my current frigidaire is 62 decibles.

Post# 482787 , Reply# 13   12/19/2010 at 20:00 (4,874 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jon, also remember, your dishwashers don't have "grinders", just filters, which does lend itself to a quieter machine. The new generation of stuff here with filters have a range of 43 or 44 dB to 48 dB. I was looking at the KitchenAid web site last night, they are still making some models with "grinders" (thank God!!). The lowest level noise on those is 48 dB. My Kenmore Elite that I got almost 4 years ago was either 52 or 54 dB and it's more than quiet for me, almost too quiet. I think I'd go nuts if I couldn't hear some washing noise in a machine. BTW, I also noticed on your Miele how far out front the spray arm sticks out from under the top rack (the photo). I don't think any U.S. brand has a wash arm that sticks out that far in front when in that position. No wonder corners with very tall glasses aren't a problem in a Miele.

Post# 482860 , Reply# 14   12/19/2010 at 23:18 (4,874 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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GLD4400 is the one I owned in Florida and it was not only cheap but very quiet and NO PRE RINSING!!!! I think HD has it now for $389.

Post# 482864 , Reply# 15   12/19/2010 at 23:41 (4,874 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I love my GE Tall tub, it cleans anything I throw at it. All in all it's fairly quite, but I added a bit of insulation and mounted it on thick rubber pads. The Pads really cut down of the transmitted vibration to the floor. I bought a large thick Fernco coupling at HD and cut it up.


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