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Post# 483241   12/21/2010 at 19:48 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        

Here is our Dishwasher. Was finishing unloading it and decided I would just post a few pics for the heck of it.

Look ma, Its a Whirlpool! Model DU900.

Obviously as you can tell it doesn't fit in with the rest of the kitchen. White with an almond dish washer. :P

Im guessing it is about 10 years old or so. My great grandma had it installed. A


At that time the kitchen was fully furnished with dark brown painted cabinets, that same gold fleck formica counter top. A 1970s fridge, BROWN SHAG CARPET (Yes in the kitchen) from 1974. Fluorescent ceiling,

And baby blue walls.

:P

So here it is after we remodeled the kitchen.





Post# 483242 , Reply# 1   12/21/2010 at 19:49 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        
Innards

Here she is. I actually like this machine, but its falling apart.


Pretty large capacity.


Post# 483243 , Reply# 2   12/21/2010 at 19:50 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        

Here is the sprayer-thingy-forthelife-of-me-cant remember what its called.



Post# 483245 , Reply# 3   12/21/2010 at 19:51 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        

Look ma, broken prongs! Wow this thing has been through hell it seems. These are breaking like clockwork, and I am quite gentle with it. They bend super easily.

Post# 483246 , Reply# 4   12/21/2010 at 19:52 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        

The tag...


HEY LOOK! YOU CAN SEE THE NEW CASCADE RESIDUE ON THE SEAL!

Ugh I hate that stuff. Look what it does to the dish washer! Also makes the racks and walls feel powdery and dry, not glossy and smooth like it used to.


Post# 483253 , Reply# 5   12/21/2010 at 20:23 (4,871 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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When that wash system came out back in the 80's it was called PowerClean. The wash arms we called Thunderbolt because of the design but also because of how the way the jets of water come out and wash the load. The tower in the middle is called JetStream. Very powerful wash system and lots of water movement. These machines were not quiet by any means. I had a Whirlpool Quiet Partner 2 in my house in Omaha that at the time was top of the line. That dishwasher could wash anything I threw at her. I did like the silverware basket in the door plus mine had the cutlery basket that was above the silverware basket on the door.
You could get a new lower rack. I wouldnt get rid of this classic.


Post# 483256 , Reply# 6   12/21/2010 at 20:26 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        

Dont worry! its not going anywhere!

I really do enjoy it. It cleans very well I think. Despite our cascade non phosphate troubles at the moment, I have always enjoyed this machine.


My grandma has the very TOL model of this style. With lots more features and settings. Love hers! Hers does seem a bit quieter, but it is in a solid wood cabinet. Might mute the sound a bit.

I do find that its not obnoxiously loud though. I've heard louder machines!

Many thanks for the info!


Post# 483262 , Reply# 7   12/21/2010 at 20:43 (4,871 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Brandon, nope it's not a boring dishwaher. One of the best cleaners ever made. glad it won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Incidentally, my siter that moved from Dallas had this very same model in the house she sold last spring.

Post# 483264 , Reply# 8   12/21/2010 at 20:50 (4,871 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        
Not a quiet machine...

No kidding. We had this model, in black, in our old house. The kitchen was open to the den, and I refused to have it running when I was trying to watch TV or talk on the phone. I used to wait until we were ready to go to bed before I started it.

Post# 483267 , Reply# 9   12/21/2010 at 20:58 (4,871 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Oh if your having issues with the nonphosphate Cascade try the Finish Powerball Tabs or even the Cascade All in One Tabs...those do very well. The powder Cascade seems to have major issues. Also Omaha does have hard water so that might factor in to your results. If Nebraska isnt one of the 17 states that have banned the phosphates...Massachusetts is one of those states...check out your local Big Lots they carry the phosphated Cascade. I buy mine in Maine where it isnt banned...yet.

Post# 483270 , Reply# 10   12/21/2010 at 21:01 (4,871 days old) by washernoob ()        

Hmm... The noise comment is quite interesting. Maybe I will film it sometime. We have no problem talking in the kitchen when its running or watching TV in the room just next to the kitchen. You hear this slushing sound and sometimes a gargle but nothing super loud.

Post# 483286 , Reply# 11   12/21/2010 at 22:01 (4,871 days old) by gr81nknox ()        
Power Clean

Was it called power clean or power wash? And is that the same washing system that Kenmore called(and I think stil does) Ultrawash? My parents had a Kenmore Ultrawash from 1995(second model down from TOL) and the interior looked nearly identical to the one in the picture here. Not the quietest machine, but certainly would clean anything put in it. I have a much newer ultrawash machine in my house and while it cleans pretty good too(and is much quieter), there are times it doesn't get a few things off the dishes unless I choose the pots and pans cycle. By contrast, the older Kenmore at my parents house has never been used on anything higher than nornal wash and it never left anything on the dishes.

Post# 483288 , Reply# 12   12/21/2010 at 22:09 (4,871 days old) by gr81nknox ()        
Serial # FG4701634

Based on your Serial number, the machine was built late in 1997.

Post# 483306 , Reply# 13   12/21/2010 at 23:45 (4,871 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes, it was called the Whirlpool PowerClean dishwasher. The Kenmore equivalent was the UltraWash.

Post# 483372 , Reply# 14   12/22/2010 at 06:53 (4,870 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
JetStream

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I've always wanted to see one of these models in action...I have a hard time understanding out the JetStream tower really works. It appears to simply be one big jet that shoots into the bottom of the top wash arm and I wonder how it could actually go in with enough force for the jets from the top wash arm to be effective. I compare this to taking a garden hose with a jet nozzle, and shooting the water into a sprinkler instead of attaching the hose to a sprinkler.

My current dishwasher is similar in the interior, but I have the electronic panel, (no dial), and instead of the JetStream, the top wash arm fits into a feed from the back of the tub that comes up in a flat tube. It's nice to have a completely open lower rack. Overall it works well and is quieter than my last model.

My last was a Whirlpool all white interior similar racks, but a square silverware basket, and a single tower, no top wash arm, and a plastic lower arm. It had the same dial, and no buttons and other than being loud it actually worked very well. Probably didn't have to replace it, but the new one is a bit quieter.


Post# 483375 , Reply# 15   12/22/2010 at 06:58 (4,870 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Whirlpool Dishwasher!

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This is not such a boring DW! I had the more TOL portable made in 1992. It offered a adjustable upper rack and extra cycle or 2. I didnt mind the silverware basket in the door. I was stupid when I did the kitchen in 2001 I got rid of it and I regret it. To make a long story short I got a GE tall tub but nothing will supass the performance of the WP powerclean. If I were you I would replace the racks and if possible get the adjustable upper rack and you would probably like the loading.
Nothing will out clean this dishwasher.
Peter


Post# 483421 , Reply# 16   12/22/2010 at 10:41 (4,870 days old) by gr81nknox ()        

Sorry for the confusion, I did a little looking online last night and Powerclean is the Whirlpool system thats been around for years. Interestingly, I was doing some Christmas shopping at Sears this morning and stopped by the appliance department as I needed a water filter for the fridge. The new generation Kenmore Elite DWs(they have the new square Kenmore badge and square buttons)calls the system Powerwash. When I first saw them I feared Sears had gone with LG or someone else on their DWs as they have done with alot of their refrigerators and laundry. Upon looking inside one, it was clear that the new machines were Whirlpools. The salesperson said that KM is now using Bosch to build a few of their machines, but most of the new Elites were WP. The non-elite models still had the old badge(rectangle with the swoosh over it) and had the ultrawash as well as quietguard nomenclature. I will say, the new Elites are nice looking. I prefer an exposed control console and the new design looks modern and upscale. They look almost identical to the Kitchen Aid models.

Post# 483447 , Reply# 17   12/22/2010 at 12:27 (4,870 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I loved my portable version of this Whirlpool DW so much, when I had it in a rental apartment, that I had it installed permanently when I bought an apartment.

Even when I chose to use a short cycle (programme) of W-R-R it was a dynamite cleaner!

Now if I could just get past WP for killing Maytag and KitchenAid, I'd be happier. LOL


Post# 483546 , Reply# 18   12/22/2010 at 16:46 (4,870 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I had this model when i lived in B'More and it was one of the best dishwashers I ever used. The cutlery and silverware basket on the door really makes the lower rack more capable of handling huge,packed loads. I am parcel to the GE tall tubs but this particular W'pool was a great model for real dirty loads.

Post# 483549 , Reply# 19   12/22/2010 at 16:48 (4,870 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I had this model when i lived in B'More and it was one of the best dishwashers I ever used. The cutlery and silverware basket on the door really makes the lower rack more capable of handling huge,packed loads. I am parcel to the GE tall tubs but this particular W'pool was a great model for real dirty loads.

Post# 483574 , Reply# 20   12/22/2010 at 18:18 (4,870 days old) by appnut (TX)        
goose865--new Kenmores by Bosch

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I saw these online the other night when I was parusing new products. These are the Bosch models with the base that isn't stainless Steel tub and the rest of the sides are. The economy, prive-value models so to speak.

Post# 483630 , Reply# 21   12/22/2010 at 21:13 (4,870 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well the Jetstream Column is rather simple. During the wash cycle the bellows on top of the lower arm cap expands to mate with the bottom of the column. The water under pressure gains velocity since the column is tapered. The jet comes out the top and the middle arm has a receiving cup under it in the center. It floats since its self centering to make sure the wash arm gets the full amount of water into it. In my Whirlpool I also had the tower on the upper rack that would send a jet of water into the deflector disc at the top of the tank. The jet was angled in such a way that the water coming out the tower would shower on the top of the load.
The PowerClean module is also simplicity in design. It uses a 1/3 hp motor that spins at 3450rpms. Water enters the machine and as the water enters the pump it passes thru a course strainer, then into the lower intake area and pulled into a macerator that pulverizes food particles, then the water is pulled thru a sizing plate. Water passes thru that plate and up into the impeller where the water shot out horizontally where the water hit a wall and is moved upward. The food in the water is then sent over the wall and into the soil storage area or dead zone. On the pump cover there are vanes that catch the water and force it into the center and out thru the lower arm and into the Jetstream tower and upper arm. This happens over and over. When the dishwasher stops to drain it reverses the motor and a check ball drops and lets the soil drain out of the module and down the drain.
Newer PowerClean II modules had a fine filter over the storage area. They cleaned well. But this was when Whirlpool ended 2 rinses and went down to a purge and then a final rinse.


Post# 483641 , Reply# 22   12/22/2010 at 22:42 (4,870 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
JetStream

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Does anyone have video of a JetStream dishwasher in action, I'd love to see it. (

Post# 483644 , Reply# 23   12/22/2010 at 22:49 (4,870 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Ever the skeptic...

Post# 483738 , Reply# 24   12/23/2010 at 10:44 (4,869 days old) by gr81nknox ()        
jetstream column

Thanks for the thorough explanation of how the system works. Amazing concept and they work so well. The purge versus 2 rinses also explains why the Pots and Pan cycle on mine cleans better. I pulled out the manual and in the cycle diagram only on the P&P cycle, it actually does 2 rinses, all of the others do the purge and then final rinse. I guess this helped it get it's "energy star" rating. Do the newer models have a shorter heated dry cycle? Even with Jet-Dry and heated dry on, the dishes still have some water on them unless they sit in there for a long while after. Again, using the mid-90s KM at my parents house, the dishes are almost too hot to touch immediately following a cycle.

Post# 483838 , Reply# 25   12/23/2010 at 17:51 (4,869 days old) by appnut (TX)        
gr81nknox

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Go back and re-read your manual. I"m assuming it's a PowerClean dishwasher that's not a Tall Tub. Read what it says what happens when the Hi-Temp wash option is selected. It SHOULD say this option adds heat, time, and water to the cycle. Which translates to the purge is converted to a full fledge rinse. Heavy soil would be WWPRD. With high temp it would be WWRRD. Normal wash would be WPRD and high-temp WRRD

Post# 483876 , Reply# 26   12/23/2010 at 21:37 (4,869 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        

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Actually, in mine, the Normal Wash with Hi-temp is RWRRD. The first R is quick. In the Heavy, the manual says to include detergent. I put a little detergent in the open dispenser on the Normal w/Hi-temp anyway,


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