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Post# 81609   9/5/2005 at 00:44 (6,807 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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RJ's Imperial Seventy developed some trouble a few days ago. Spin solenoid. Upon investigating, I found the pump is also dripping. There's a floor drain under the machine so leaking hadn't been noticed. It has been mentioned that pumps (among other parts) for belt-drive Whirlpools are getting scarce, but I had no trouble finding both a wig-wag and pump at RepairClinic.com. But weeeooooo, a wig-wag is $25, and a pump $45 (3-port with a rubber plug for 2-port use). That's $75 for parts (with shipping). If the typical consumer also had to pay trip & labor and local taxes, that could easily double the cost, if not more. $150+ for a pump and wig-wag! I remember when pumps were $16!




Post# 81610 , Reply# 1   9/5/2005 at 00:46 (6,807 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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By the way, this is the first repairs ever on the machine. LA7800XPW1.

Post# 81622 , Reply# 2   9/5/2005 at 07:09 (6,806 days old) by Mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)        

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Hi Glenn:

I know, I cringe sometimes when I order for the Maytag's. But then I think, well hey, sooooooooooooooooooooo what.

Steve


Post# 81648 , Reply# 3   9/5/2005 at 10:49 (6,806 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Interesting, this being the first repair. Hopefully it will be the only repair!

I have a couple of brand new 3-port pumps and wig-wags on hand from eBay. eBay offers parts pretty cheap, much cheaper than new if you can believe that! If you're interested let me know!


Post# 81663 , Reply# 4   9/5/2005 at 11:50 (6,806 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Parts Availability

I have noticed that Ebay has a lot of washer parts too. I plan on keeping my Whirlpool TL for at least 25 years, if the tub doesn't rust first. It seems that the DD Whirlpools are pretty easy to work on, and I've only done one simple repair on a washer before. Do it yourself is definitely the way to go! I wonder how many washers are tossed just because they need a simple repair?
Whenever we get ready to move again, we will make sure we have a home that has a laundry room big enough to house multiple washers. I would love to have a Fridgidaire 1-18!


Post# 81667 , Reply# 5   9/5/2005 at 12:34 (6,806 days old) by Goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Many washers are tossed that need simple repairs,or nothing at all. I picked up a newer matched set of Kelvinators the other day behind Lowes. They needed nothing,both worked fine. I don't know how many DD Whirlpools I've picked up that need a drive coupler replaced. Sadly,(or lucky for me!),it's a throw away society.

kennyGF


Post# 81671 , Reply# 6   9/5/2005 at 13:40 (6,806 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Awwww, Austin, I wish I had thought to check if anybody around here has some spare parts, but we already ordered them from RepairClinic.

Post# 82840 , Reply# 7   9/11/2005 at 21:15 (6,800 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        
#%@#$*!

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I got the pump changed and the old wigwag pulled, no trouble, but now I can't get the #%@#$*! new wigwag pressed all the way down onto the sector gear shaft. There's not enough working room to get much leverage on it. I don't recall having that much trouble with it years ago. Am I missing a trick, or have I gotten too weak and wimpy to do the job?? Only thing I can figure is file out the mounting hole just a bit.

Post# 82842 , Reply# 8   9/11/2005 at 21:22 (6,800 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I felt the same way about pressing the drive coupler on in my DD...LOL! But that was before I saw Leslie's post about using a deep socket.

I wonder what could be the problem? Whirlpool/Kenmore didn't vary the diamater of the sector gear shaft or wig-wag, did they?


Post# 82844 , Reply# 9   9/11/2005 at 21:33 (6,800 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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The shaft is split for a tight fit. Apparently it's too tight. I lubed it with Vaseline and don't feel any burrs on it. I can get the wigwag rocked/jammed down enough to barely see the hole beginning to appear. Refuses to go any further. If I had the tranny out I could beat the idiot thing down with a hammer, but there's no reason a tranny should need to be pulled to change a simple wigwag.

Post# 82847 , Reply# 10   9/11/2005 at 21:37 (6,800 days old) by fixerman ()        

If the pump leaked it may have sprayed some water onto the transmission and other parts corroding them a bit. If the shaft had a little corrosion it could make it difficult to put on. Use some steel wool on it. Lube it first with some wd40. Sometimes you have to work it bach and forth while pushing it on. Just will take some work. Also be sure the bore in the wigwag is clean with no burrs.

Post# 83891 , Reply# 11   9/18/2005 at 21:48 (6,793 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Got the repair finished this evening. Just a slight bit of grinding with a Dremel tool inside the wigwag mounting hole, and it slipped into place. The 20-year-old belt has a surprising lack of wear. Snugged it up, all appears well. There's a bit of oil drippage on the floor, but I suppose that's not unexpected after this length of time.

Question: The wigwag plungers should of course not be lubed, but should the guides and cam bar slots have a touch of grease? The guides have the plastic inserts ... so perhaps not? I'm thinking that might cause them to stick.


Post# 83918 , Reply# 12   9/19/2005 at 09:06 (6,792 days old) by fixerman ()        

The cam bars should be greased. A dab on the bottom where they meet the transmission case and a dab on the plunger slots. Use silicone grease.

Post# 86627 , Reply# 13   10/2/2005 at 22:51 (6,779 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Interesting and distressing development. Again, suddenly this evening, no spin. I haven't yet investigated, but either the wig-wag has gone out again, or there's broken or disconnected wire.

Post# 86640 , Reply# 14   10/3/2005 at 00:41 (6,779 days old) by fixerman ()        

Check for broken wire near wig-wag. They often break inside the insulation so you can't see it. Also the lid switch operates the solenoid. The timer can be the culprit too. Put the machine in spin and jiggle the timer knob.

I remember when pumps were about 5 bucks. I thought that was pricey. Of course this was in the late 60's. Anyway I would avoid buying anything from Repair Clinic. Prices are extremely high.


Post# 86642 , Reply# 15   10/3/2005 at 00:52 (6,779 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Already tried by-passing the lid switch. I *know* the spin solenoid was bad on the original wigwag, checked it. The machine *did* spin with the replacement wigwag. Solenoid, wigwag wires next to check, then timer. And the console wiring harness -- the console got broken loose some years ago from grabbing it when moving the machine. The owner tends to still dislodge the console when moving it, which pulls the harness plug loose.

Post# 86816 , Reply# 16   10/3/2005 at 19:30 (6,778 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Speaking of pumps,for some odd reason,there were about 7-8 new Whirlpool BD 2 port pumps at the local St Vincent de Paul thrift store. $4.00 each,wasn't thinking,and walked right by them.
Going back tomorrow......


Post# 87039 , Reply# 17   10/4/2005 at 20:42 (6,777 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        
What *are* the odds??

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Confirmed, the spin solenoid on the new wigwag has gone dead on the 2nd load after replacement. Are there any extenuating conditions that could cause that to happen?

Post# 87069 , Reply# 18   10/4/2005 at 21:40 (6,777 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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yes

Bad quality control department
cheap labor
made in Malaysia of Ugandan parts


Post# 87073 , Reply# 19   10/4/2005 at 21:44 (6,777 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

The outer tub could have a slight leak. Check the round opening in the baseplate above the wigwag. Sometimes water will drip on the spin solenoid and short it out. Was the replacement wig wag an FSP part. I find aftermarket parts somewhat inferior to OEM.

Post# 87117 , Reply# 20   10/5/2005 at 07:22 (6,776 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        
or . . .

if anything is causing the solenoid to not be able to pull completely in when energized. A bent plunger or cam bar ? They sometimes do bend. Maybe just a bad part. I agree with Coldspot66, I like FSP parts much better than aftermarket. But even they can fail occationally.

Ed


Post# 87510 , Reply# 21   10/7/2005 at 12:44 (6,774 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I don't recall the packaging of the replacement wigwag, but it appeared to be FSP. The box/packaging is still over there, will take a look. Should FSP or a part number be stamped on the wigwag itself, or just on the packaging? There was a plastic wire bushing included. We did get the parts from RepairClinic.com, they claim to have a one-year warranty.


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