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Post# 81842 , Reply# 1 9/6/2005 at 12:48 (6,805 days old) by gansky1  (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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European models are sometimes a little 'shallower' than American models. I've seen where, if there's room on either side of the appliance, people will build it out a little bit to accomodate a dishwasher. How far the counter extends over the front of the d/w will be a consideration as well. With that cool new Mobile Maid, why would you want anything else? ;-) | ||
| Post# 81854 , Reply# 2 9/6/2005 at 15:46 (6,805 days old) by Michaelman2 (Lauderdale by the Sea, FL) | ||
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Hey Dan...I don't know how large of a load you will need to wash..but how about a Briva that will fit into the existing sink. That will do 5 place settings also large pans and when not in use you can use the top as counter space. | ||
| Post# 81976 , Reply# 3 9/7/2005 at 00:55 (6,805 days old) by shanonabc () | ||
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The briva looks cool | ||
| Post# 81983 , Reply# 4 9/7/2005 at 05:28 (6,805 days old) by kenmore1978 () | ||
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counter depth I imagine some trim pieces could be applied to take up the extra 2 inches and cover the part of the dishwasher tub that protrudes out. | ||
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Post# 82111 , Reply# 5 9/7/2005 at 20:05 (6,804 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 84388 , Reply# 7 9/21/2005 at 19:59 (6,790 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Dan, KA sources those from Fisher Paykel. There are some racking differences between the two brands. Also, the biggest difference is this: On the F&P, the "eco" option lower the water temp set points in the cycles. With the KA, the lower temps are default and the high temp option raises the temps to pretty much what the F&P's default modes are. DADoES has a set and has had them for about 2 or 3 years. Some love 'em some hate 'em. Bob
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Post# 84439 , Reply# 8 9/22/2005 at 05:42 (6,790 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Dishwasher drawers
I thought about the drawers when I bought this house and decided against them mostly because of my lifestyle and how I use the dishwasher. I cook with a lot of large bowls and pans all of which I put in the dishwasher. I thought that with the drawers I'd end up having to run a cycle for one large bowl and a few other things which seemed like a waste to me. My last dishwasher was a Bosch with the hidden controls and I really liked it. So much so, when I bought this house I put in a Kenmore Elite that was made by Bosch. It has the exact same cycles and interior, and the upgraded racking. The main difference I have found is the outside styling has more of a Euro kind of look to it. It's turning out to be a great dishwasher. The look was what sold my partner on this one as compared to another Bosch. Price wise it was about the same as the Bosch equivalent. I really do like the look of it, but the peformance is what is important to me and this one delivers. I think it really depends on how you use the dishwasher. Of course if you keep that great KitchenAid as a backup, you could have the best of both worlds! You really will pay a premium for the KA or F&P drawers unless you can get a pretty hefty discount through someone. | ||
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Post# 84441 , Reply# 9 9/22/2005 at 06:03 (6,790 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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BTW! | ||
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Post# 84461 , Reply# 10 9/22/2005 at 09:38 (6,790 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 84462 , Reply# 11 9/22/2005 at 09:57 (6,790 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I really wanted a Miele dishwasher but I live in a very small city in Central Arkansas. I was worried about getting it serviced if I had a problem. This dishwasher had a look very similar to a Miele which we liked. Having had a good experience with the Bosch, I decided to take a chance on the Kenmore Elite made by Bosch. I guess I thought I would get the best of both worlds. I did a little more research and according to the Sears website this dishwasher only needs a depth of 22 7/16". The Installation guide says 23 9/16". Either way I think it will fit well in a 23" space. I didn't think to measure the depth of my cupboards before the machine went in but I don't have any reason to think they are not a "standard" depth whatever that might be. Here are a couple of photos so dalangdon could see how well it fits into a standard cupboard. When the installer was putting it in, he could have pushed it back a little further if he wanted. He had to pull it out a little bit to get it to be flush. My point is, I think it could fit well in the smaller space dalangdon has at about half the cost of the dishdrawers. There is a photo of the front of the machine as well so you can see what I mean about having the look we wanted. CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK | ||
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Post# 84527 , Reply# 13 9/22/2005 at 15:44 (6,789 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Measure again and again, according to the F&P website and the installation instructions the Dishdrawers are 23-7/16"wide. On the Bosch website you can see that Bosch dishwashers are 23-9/16"wide. If you really need an 18 inch dishwasher and you have the money for it, you should have a look at the Miele 18" machines. They have a third rack for flatware which means that there is more space in the bottom rack. In general they hold more than other 18" dishwashers. They come with a pricetag though. | ||
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Post# 84535 , Reply# 14 9/22/2005 at 16:05 (6,789 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I had one in a rental in Chicago for a couple of years and it was OK if that's all you have room for. I agree with the suggestion to get the Miele if you can because of the third rack. Mine had the silverware basket in the middle of the lower rack and that took valuable space. The biggest issue I found with the 18" was it would not accommodate larger bowls and pans. But again, the 18" is better than none at all in my opinion. I think mine was a Westinghouse and as I recall it cleaned well. | ||
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Post# 84549 , Reply# 15 9/22/2005 at 17:40 (6,789 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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If you want to go American (read: save $).... The GE 18 incher is all SS on the inside and seems to be OK even though it is a Chinese import. Good thing is, with a GE badge, parts will theoreticaly be avaialble for a long while to come. Also no annoying cutouts or towers as the Frigidaire and other badges of that persuation have in their lower rack. When I got rid of my 18 incher that came with the house. (RIDIULOUSLY small and ran it many times a day) I had to move a cabinet over a mere 2.5 inches to get it to fit. Still it was worth the effort to have a std 24 incher, IMHO. | ||
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Post# 84562 , Reply# 16 9/22/2005 at 18:43 (6,789 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 84627 , Reply# 18 9/22/2005 at 22:06 (6,789 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 86753 , Reply# 21 10/3/2005 at 14:35 (6,778 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Your new Bosch Dishwasher.. | ||
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