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Thread Number: 32321
Kitchen Aid Superba Monteray 21 dishwasher |
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| Post# 487355 , Reply# 1 1/8/2011 at 17:07 (4,850 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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left panel pic 
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| Post# 487356 , Reply# 2 1/8/2011 at 17:07 (4,850 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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right side pic 
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Post# 487367 , Reply# 3 1/8/2011 at 17:26 (4,850 days old) by Jetcone  (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Ooo Thats a nice machine
Looks like you have Granite countertops, these weren't designed to mount to granite at the top as far as I am familiar with them.
You'll need to jerry-rig a "side mounting kit" from some other machine to attach to the sides of the machine to the cabinets or find someone with a stone drill and there is a way to attach to granite but I'm not sure on that. I think you drill two holes, and fill them with something that hardens so you can screw into it. Maybe Stevenet will know, hey Steve??? On mine the kick plate is a two step affair you mount the lower inner black piece and then the trim pice mounts to that and the frame. Do you have a picture of your kick plate for this machine? | ||
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Post# 487368 , Reply# 4 1/8/2011 at 17:28 (4,850 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I wonder if that was only sold in CA | ||
| Post# 487376 , Reply# 6 1/8/2011 at 17:48 (4,850 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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The kick plate This is the kickplate, any help on installing it properly would be greatly appreciated. I don't have the screws so I'll have to get the right ones at Home Depot. 
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| Post# 487377 , Reply# 7 1/8/2011 at 17:49 (4,850 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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The bottom of the dishwasher Here is where the kickplate should go: 
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Post# 487378 , Reply# 8 1/8/2011 at 17:49 (4,850 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 487380 , Reply# 9 1/8/2011 at 17:55 (4,850 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 487390 , Reply# 10 1/8/2011 at 18:53 (4,849 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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KA MONTERAY 21  | ||
| Post# 487393 , Reply# 11 1/8/2011 at 19:09 (4,849 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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So the question of the day Is it really a whirlpool, it doesn't say hobart on it anywhere and the motor sounds like a whirlpool if that makes any sense. | ||
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Post# 487395 , Reply# 12 1/8/2011 at 19:25 (4,849 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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KA MONTERAY 21 | ||
| Post# 487397 , Reply# 13 1/8/2011 at 19:32 (4,849 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Front Lower Panels on KA
Are a Bitch to put on. I need to do some service on three of my machines, but I just dread taking those lower front panels off.
There is a knack to getting them on right. I'm to the point where I think I'm going to figure out some other way to attach them. Some people think they are a breeze, but none of mine just snap into place. Ughhhh. I can't think of a worse way to waste an hour or two. | ||
| Post# 487399 , Reply# 14 1/8/2011 at 19:42 (4,849 days old) by wigwag (San Diego) | ||
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no luck on the panel I'm with you top loader, can't get it work, I put a chair in front of the machine so the kids don't get under there! | ||
| Post# 487402 , Reply# 15 1/8/2011 at 20:05 (4,849 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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They are beyond tricky
stevet will be one of the people here that can guide us through this proceedure.
I LOVE KitchenAids but those Lower Panels... are one of the strangest desings I've ever seen. It seems like once they're put on in the factory , that's it. And then get into the Lower Panels on the Regency Models with Chrome trim... Get ready for a few cocktails. LOL | ||
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Post# 487405 , Reply# 16 1/8/2011 at 20:07 (4,849 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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Up until last weekend, I would have agreed that the lower panels are a PITA to put on and have them stay on. I always fought with my KDI-21 because the top of the panel would pop out and sag on one side.
My opinion changed when the ISE Classic Supreme project got underway. Nate showed me how the panels attach, and it really is a breeze. Tilt the top end in and hang it on the lip as in the shot with the white arrows above. The straight tabs on the bottom of the panel rest on top the frame edge on each side, just in front of the springs. The L-shaped tabs screw into holes in the frame. I had to bend the tabs to line up with the screw holes, but once I had those tabs secured to the frame, that panel wasn't going anywhere. It was a quick and easy operation. Love the Monterey. Fake burl wood makes an otherwise timeless Superba look very dated. | ||
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Post# 487445 , Reply# 18 1/9/2011 at 00:19 (4,849 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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These instructions aren't for the Superba, but for the next model down. A lot of the information is the same, so you may find some answers about the filter and draining in the link below.
And yes, KA machines are notorious for the accumulation of crud at the bottom of the door, so it's a good idea to clean down there once in a while. Enjoy your Monterey. It's better than anything you would buy new today, or three years ago. The 21 series is essentially still a Hobart machine even though Whirlpool took over during that run. Even the 22 series machines still look like Hobarts inside the tub. Not until the 23 series did things look different in the sump area. CLICK HERE TO GO TO rp2813's LINK | ||
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Post# 487490 , Reply# 19 1/9/2011 at 08:30 (4,849 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Ralph | ||
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Post# 487502 , Reply# 20 1/9/2011 at 09:44 (4,849 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Jon, ya have to go to the KitchenAid web site. Attached is the link which should get you to the page whereyou enter model number. But be warned, they only have from the KUD21 series onward. Nothing before that which I have been able to find. KUDS21, KUDI21
CLICK HERE TO GO TO appnut's LINK | ||
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Post# 487504 , Reply# 21 1/9/2011 at 09:48 (4,849 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Your Manual | ||
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Post# 487511 , Reply# 22 1/9/2011 at 10:24 (4,849 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT) |
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Bob | ||
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Post# 487516 , Reply# 23 1/9/2011 at 10:58 (4,849 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Quick/Glass My KUDS220T4 has a Quick/Glass cycle (four Wash Selection buttons instead of three). Consists of a very quick rinse (fills and recirculates only for duration of the fill increment, 1.5 mins), shortened main wash, purge and rinse, dry. The dry period is aborted and cycle time is cut from 34.5 mins to 18 mins if no-heat dry is selected. Sani Rinse has no effect. Otherwise they're largely identical. | ||
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Post# 487526 , Reply# 24 1/9/2011 at 12:05 (4,849 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 488088 , Reply# 25 1/10/2011 at 21:30 (4,847 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay) |
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21 vs. 22 Series
Well, the control panels definitely look different (some may say uglier and no longer classic) on the 22's.
Also, it's been lamented here numerous times that the 22's only offer one rinse after the main wash (the one when the dispenser opens) before going straight into drying. 22's are supposed to be quieter than 21's. I'm not 100% sure, but that might be the difference between an Emerson motor and a Hobart. IIRC, some 21's are known to have received Hobart motors. There may be other mechanical and/or design changes I'm not aware of. Steve's the guy who has the straight scoop on this. | ||
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