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Post# 490875   1/22/2011 at 21:24 (4,814 days old) by electronicontrl (Grand Rapids, MI)   |   | |
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Seller says harvest gold, though they are almond. And the dashboards light up.
A806 D608 CLICK HERE TO GO TO electronicontrl's LINK on Chicago Craigslist |
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Post# 490904 , Reply# 1   1/23/2011 at 03:01 (4,814 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 490914 , Reply# 2   1/23/2011 at 05:22 (4,814 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)   |   | |
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Post# 490920 , Reply# 3   1/23/2011 at 07:34 (4,814 days old) by angus (Fairfield, CT.)   |   | |
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"The Mrs. demanded new Maytags"? Boy is she in for a surprise... |
Post# 490923 , Reply# 4   1/23/2011 at 08:02 (4,813 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 490941 , Reply# 5   1/23/2011 at 09:26 (4,813 days old) by washernoob ()   |   | |
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Are those really 1979s? They look much older than that! Didn't know maytag held onto the lighted panel machines for that long. |
Post# 490949 , Reply# 6   1/23/2011 at 10:12 (4,813 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 490956 , Reply# 7   1/23/2011 at 10:53 (4,813 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 491019 , Reply# 8   1/23/2011 at 16:06 (4,813 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 491071 , Reply# 9   1/23/2011 at 18:46 (4,813 days old) by autowasherfreak ()   |   | |
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I bet she won't like them. |
Post# 491106 , Reply# 10   1/23/2011 at 20:18 (4,813 days old) by Combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 491113 , Reply# 11   1/23/2011 at 20:41 (4,813 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 491334 , Reply# 12   1/24/2011 at 22:54 (4,812 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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This is a reasonable price for these.
I disagree. These machines are AT LEAST 31 years old and will need some TLC for proper operation and long term reliability, which will quickly add to the already high purchase price. It *may* be a good deal for one here in our little group who is both knowledgeable and capable of "freshening" them up. WAY overpriced for typical ignorant buyer! And the new WP built MTs will last just as long as these did Thanks, I needed good laugh! You mean, they'll hold up like This One and This One quickly dried clothes You're quite the comedian today. You mean, THAT design where the intake and exhaust are both located on the rear bulkhead, just a few inches apart? THAT design which will fry items in the back while leaving items up front (and in the middle for bulky items) nice and damp? I have lived with a KM dryer for 30 years now and personally know their severe weaknesses. At least Maytag, along with just about every other manufacturer, had enough brains to incorporate intake/exhaust airflow designs that were polar opposite of the drum. |
Post# 491421 , Reply# 14   1/25/2011 at 13:01 (4,811 days old) by Kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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So, as you've said prodingly several times before, you've lived (maybe "suffered" would be a better term) with your 1981 Kenmore dryer for 30 years.....if it's so bad, why keep suffering? I mean, you are clearly a man with the means to use something else, and you have plenty of MTs of several designs, so why keep using it?
Also, I know full-well that you're a very smart guy, so you are surely aware of how market forces work and how they apply to consumer products. When a product doesn't work or isn't accepted by consumers, it doesn't stay on the market long....right? One could look at the story of the MT Neptunes as a prefect example of market forces at work. So, employing that line of reasoning, why is it that a 1966 standard capacity WP/Kenmore dryer is for all intents and purposes mechanically nearly identical to a flat-back 5.9 cu. ft. dryer from 2011, 45 years later? If they didn't work or had "weaknesses" that "fry" clothes, they would be have been gone in about 7 years like your Neppies, no? :-) |
Post# 491514 , Reply# 15   1/25/2011 at 20:09 (4,811 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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There is no evidence that the new MT TL washers and dryers that are being sold today won't outlast a pair of 1979 MTs, only time will tell. Just as with new cars reliably has never been better with new appliances. People are having far less service calls and keeping machines far longer than ever. I have been involved with servicing appliances longer than you [ Dan ] have been alive and you are far too young to be so silly.I often forget to remember that you are so young and have very little practical experance with other brands of washers & dryers other than MTs. Its like Ronald Reagan said we won't hold your youth and inexperience against you LOL.Almost everyone on this site agrees that the 29" WP dryer is the best performer ever and at least as many would put a WP built washer as their favorite machine as would put a MT helical drive washer as their favorite , Just remember who went out of business.
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Post# 491534 , Reply# 17   1/25/2011 at 21:41 (4,811 days old) by spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)   |   | |
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Post# 491641 , Reply# 18   1/26/2011 at 12:26 (4,810 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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John, over my years in the field (and I have a few...), I have found the Maytag laundry has held up very well compared to many others. I have had all the above in my laundry room (or in my shop) and have had a chance or three to listen and examine. Now, granted that all brands have their strengths AND weaknesses, the Maytag laundry ran quieter, lasted longer and was built heavier than most.
BUT... It's almost impossible to compare brand vs. brand, let alone machines within the same brand due to design or quality changes over the years. Comparing MT Dependable Care washers from the 50's with the later models manufactured just before discontinuing the line, comparing the Dependable Cares as a whole against the other Maycor platforms such as Amana, Norge/Magic Chef, Neptune, etc. can lead to possibly heated debates. And let's not even get into the belt driven vs. direct drive Whirlpool topic. How about asking the Frigidaire boys about the likes/dislikes between Rollermatics, WCI designs up thru to the Electrolux era laundry. Speaking of Frigidaire being bought out by Electrolux, Maytag did not 'go out of business'. It still exists as a division of... All that being said, I do enjoy the healthy debates that will always go on here due to the passioned people here. Everyone will always still have their favorite brand, design, year and model and will defend it tooth and nail. I think the namecalling, cheapshots at age or level of education/other criteria can be done without on ALL sides. Sometimes I think there is a bit of mutual 'button pushing' between Dan and John that is enjoyed. Ahhh, but maybe that's the fun of it... By the way, out of all the machines I've encountered in my 20+ years in the fied, my MAH Neptunes have ruled the roost longest in my laundry room... RCD |
Post# 491659 , Reply# 19   1/26/2011 at 14:31 (4,810 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 492760 , Reply# 21   1/31/2011 at 01:31 (4,806 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Wow, I didn't expect this explosion, but..
Ahh where to begin.... if it's so bad, why keep suffering? 2 reasons: #1 Nostalgia. I grew up with that dryer and I even (faintly) remember when my parents bought it. #2 It's the only gas dryer in my collection, so I keep it in order to run 2 dryers at the same time (my house is equipped with both 220v and NG). Got a hold of a gas DG306 HOH but that didn't work out due to its more than 2 hour cycle times, even after a complete tear down and rebuild. BTW, that poorly designed gas dryer was around for a couple of decades ;>) It was probably one of the main reasons that Maytag decided to implement the SOH design. I have no qualms at all with the WP/KM design from a mechanical aspect. My biggest issue is the airflow design with bulky loads, or extremely light loads. There is no evidence that the new MT TL washers and dryers that are being sold today won't outlast a pair of 1979 MTs. People are having far less service calls and keeping machines far longer than ever. You obviously didn't click on the two links I posted. Take a look on craigslist and you'll find plenty of broken WP/KM washers/dryers that aren't even close to the 5 year mark. I was talking to one of the guys at parts counter a few weeks back and he said WP has been using Chinese parts (particularly motors) in their appliances for the past few years now. I can't confirm nor deny that statement since I haven't been into a new WP washer/dryer, but that could very well be the reason for early failures. Just remember who went out of business Yeah, by Ralph Hake, a former Whirlpool CFO who PURPOSELY destroyed Maytag in as little as 4 years. By driving the company into the ground, Maytag became an easy takeover target, triggering Hake’s golden parachute payments. This, of course, is on top of his multi-million dollar annual pay package. |
Post# 492784 , Reply# 22   1/31/2011 at 07:59 (4,805 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Everyone should keep in mind that if you have a dryer gas or electric that is taking far longer than it should it may be dangerous to keep using it. Older dryers do not have the safety fuses that more recent models do and can be a fire hazard if they are not operating properly. Dan I am sorry that you didn't succeed in fixing your HOH DG306 gas dryer, but I wouldn't continue to run down Maytag about it. We sold more than 100 MT HOH gas dryers in the 1970s and never took one back or had any seriously slow ones. If fact the only ones that we did take back were two electric ones that actually caught fire and were returned to the factory. The electric HOH dryers were a more dangerous design because of the over 1600 degree heating element being barely 2" from the clothes and no real option for a lower heat setting.
Dan looking at your two links of people getting rid of fairly new machines is silly and doesn't prove a thing. It is equivalent to looking at the obituary page in the news paper and citing the deaths of two children as evidence that people aren't living as long today, and we all know that is not true. I believe that people in general keeping most appliances and cars longer than anytime is history. One can always come up with examples other wise but thats not statically accurate. |
Post# 492801 , Reply# 23   1/31/2011 at 11:11 (4,805 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)   |   | |
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Those 2 examples of W/P Kenmore washers that didn't "hold up" probably had broken couplers..or lid switches. An easy and inexpensive fix. |