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Thread Number: 32711
Speed Queen FL w/ Heater |
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| Post# 492885 1/31/2011 at 18:57 (4,832 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Post# 492926 , Reply# 1 1/31/2011 at 20:53 (4,832 days old) by appnut  (TX) |
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| Post# 492987 , Reply# 2 2/1/2011 at 08:04 (4,832 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Post# 493087 , Reply# 3 2/1/2011 at 16:16 (4,831 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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With the way manufacturers have dumbed-down water temps (hot is warm; warm is cold), there's no way I'd buy a new front-loader without a heater. I suppose it will improve the washer's energy-use score if it doesn't heat. No sanitize cycle either, I presume.
If the hot water temp isn't dumbed down, then there's no problem; you can control the temperature of the hot water at your household water heater. | ||
| Post# 493096 , Reply# 4 2/1/2011 at 16:39 (4,831 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Not Speed Queen | ||
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Post# 493098 , Reply# 5 2/1/2011 at 16:42 (4,831 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 493243 , Reply# 6 2/1/2011 at 23:16 (4,831 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Malcolm let us know what SQ | ||
| Post# 493277 , Reply# 7 2/2/2011 at 06:39 (4,831 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Availability | ||
| Post# 493319 , Reply# 8 2/2/2011 at 10:02 (4,831 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Got A Response
Well, it appears that due to increasing energy requirements, the Boosted Hot model has been discontinued as it will no longer meet the Energy Star qualifications. It seems that domestic machines that have a heater in them will begin to phase out over the next 2 to 3 years. And detergents that are formulated to work in cooler temperatures will begin to dominate the market.
I guess it makes sense. The Government has gotten the machines down to using as little water as possible. Now they will target the water heaters too. I wonder if these requirements played into Bosch pulling out of the large capacity market seeing as how they proclaim they guarantee a target wash temperature.
Malcolm | ||
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Post# 493332 , Reply# 9 2/2/2011 at 10:42 (4,831 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 493338 , Reply# 10 2/2/2011 at 10:52 (4,831 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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New Model | ||
| Post# 493359 , Reply# 11 2/2/2011 at 12:38 (4,831 days old) by mtn1584 (USA) | ||
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Oh Malcom........................................... Do you think you are going to get away with putting up info on NEW Speed Queen washers without any sort of follow-up, pictures, or anything DUDE????? That is wrong man, just plain wrong!!!! LOL Mike | ||
| Post# 493393 , Reply# 13 2/2/2011 at 14:13 (4,830 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Is it a requirement that all washers have to be Energy Star rated? Why don't the washer mfgrs just sell units that are labeled "Non Energy Star"? I'd bet they'd sell a ton. | ||
| Post# 493737 , Reply# 15 2/3/2011 at 17:26 (4,829 days old) by toploader1984 () | ||
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because the government want to control everything, tell us what to buy.... free country? freedom of opinion? NOT ANYMORE. | ||
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Post# 493748 , Reply# 16 2/3/2011 at 18:58 (4,829 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Energy Star
We've been through this before.
Nothing forces appliance manufacturers to comply, but since they are getting "free" money from the government, they take it. This versus the uncertain prospecs of spending sums on R&D and other costs associated with bringing a product to market that may or may not sell enough units to recoup costs. Consumers have been "brain washed", if that is the proper word to look for the ESL as something good. Add to this various rebates and incentives, and it comes to a decent enough money savings for persons to pull the trigger. IIRC, the only state with laws or proposals to mandate resource saving washing machines is Californina (surprise). | ||
| Post# 494009 , Reply# 21 2/4/2011 at 19:20 (4,828 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Funny... We happened to find ourselves in a Chinese restaurant one afternoon during the week. It was a group of us from the office. Well, the restaurant would close a 2 pm after the lunch rush. We didn't get there until 1:45 and were not aware that the restaurant closed so early. The agreed to serve us without hesitation. Well, shortly after 2 pm before we had gotten our lunch, a plate smashing argument ensued in the kitchen and eventually spilled out into the dining room. Of course all the shouting was foriegn to us. But we felt very embarrassed to be there at the time. Makes me wonder just how many people have accidentally been in a restaurant when this kind of thing has happened.
Malcolm | ||
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Post# 494139 , Reply# 22 2/5/2011 at 14:20 (4,827 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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What I don't quite understand is why consumers aren't given a choice. Take Bosch/Siemens for example: they make dryers that use 50% less energy than other A-rated dryers, their new dishwasher uses 1.7 gallons to clean 140 pieces. BUT the consumer still has a choice! On their washing machines, one can either use the regular cycle or add ecoPerfect or speedPerfect as an option. ecoPerfect extends the 60*C cycle to 3:25 hrs but uses very little energy, while speedPerfect takes slightly more than an hour - I think. It's the same with their dishwashers: wait three hours for the Eco cycle or add varioSpeed and it's done in one hour. Still, these are super-efficient appliances but the consumer has the choice of whether to take advantage of it or not.
Too bad US manufacturers don't have this much trust in the intelligence of US consumers: :-( | ||
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Post# 494256 , Reply# 23 2/5/2011 at 23:09 (4,827 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Too bad US manufacturers don't have this much trust in t
It's very apparent with U.s. versions of front loaders. We aren't trusted enough to have3 full understanding of spin speeds or water temperatures. Spin spees are referred to as low, medium, high, ex. high and no spin rather than actual RPM designations. Like on the uber-sized Mieles for the North American Market the water temps are cold, warm, very warm, hot, and santary rather than 80 or 85, 100, 120, 140, and 153 degrees.
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| Post# 494326 , Reply# 24 2/6/2011 at 04:59 (4,827 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Post# 494400 , Reply# 25 2/6/2011 at 10:10 (4,827 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 494617 , Reply# 26 2/7/2011 at 06:41 (4,826 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Laundromat
I went to the Laundromat yesterday morning to wash my comforter. The dog sleeps on the bed so the comforter needs more cleaning than usual. Anyway. My usual mat was so busy that I opted to go to another a little further away. I hadn't been to this one before so I knew it would be an adventure.
I put the comforter in a mega-loader 80lb Dexter. $5.75 per wash. I thought that was quite reasonable compared to the charges at my usual haunt. I had already decided that I was gonna double wash it. So, 11.50 for washing. Did a good job. Very splashy as it was underloaded, for sure. Anyway, in the row of machines I was in, there were four machines. 2 - 80 pounders and 2 - 50 pounders. All were running except mine when I got there. The other three machines were being used by a young Jamaican man. When he unloaded his machines, I could tell there was no rhyme or reason to how they were loaded. And I noticed that all four of them were running the same program. "Hot/Regular" The odd thing, when he carted his mountain of wet laundry to the dryers, he sorted by color as he was loading them up. He used 9 dryers. NINE! I thought to myself, this guy must be washing for a small army. Anyway, I couldn't help but notice how beige his white clothes looked. Shortly thereafter, a couple hispanics and their two young children came in with three baskets of clothes. The jammed everything into a 50 pounder and had to lean on the door to get it to latch. She selected "Hot/Regular" for her program of choice. Then, her husband turned up with the largest bag of "Foca" detergent I had ever seen. They put three cups in the dispenser as the machine was filling. The suds kicked up quite a mess. Bubbling out the top of the machine at first. Oddly, the bubbles died down quickly. Must have been some serious filth in that load. My comforter was finishing up its second wash so I was scouting for a big dryer. I happened to look back and they were dumping more foca into the dispenser on the machine. Ugh. I moved my comforter to a dryer, fed it six quarters, and let it rip. By this time, their machine was starting the final rinse. This woman used the same 1 cup measure to dispense a full cup of fabric softener into that machine. Meanwhile, the machine I was using had a new customer. An older man with three dog beds which looked like they belonged to outside dogs. He loaded up and pulled out a ziplock freezer bag full of some blue liquid. Not sure how much was in there, but he used every drop. The suds were dark brown. Sickening. This was part of the reason I decided to double wash my comforter. So that was my Sunday morning adventure. Malcolm | ||
| Post# 494695 , Reply# 27 2/7/2011 at 14:26 (4,825 days old) by mysteryclock (Franklin, TN) | ||
Laundromat
Yeah, that's why the last time I took something to use the big mega-machine at the laundromat I ran an empty/hot load of nothing but Charlie's Soap (big dose) and Lysol liquid, to clean out the machine before I put anything in there. Added $5.25 to the cost, obviously, but still ended up cheaper than taking it to a pro and having ~them~ stuff it into some nasty machine.
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Post# 494857 , Reply# 28 2/8/2011 at 07:38 (4,825 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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| Post# 494892 , Reply# 29 2/8/2011 at 12:13 (4,825 days old) by DanManTN (Tennessee) | ||
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| Post# 494906 , Reply# 30 2/8/2011 at 13:03 (4,825 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Most people I know do sort
But they over load the washer...I hate that!!
And speaking of manufacturers getting the energy star rating; that's fine, but I still don't understand why they don't include some cycle to use more water. Look at the Electrolux Wave Touch for example.....If you dig deep, there's is an "add more water" option. I was hoping Whirltag would do this with their newest updated front loaders hidden deep in the menu.....About everything you could want is there (except add more water) based on the manual....... | ||
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Post# 495285 , Reply# 33 2/9/2011 at 16:19 (4,823 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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