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Post# 494276 2/6/2011 at 02:44 (4,821 days old) by peteski50  (New York) |
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Post# 494277 , Reply# 1 2/6/2011 at 02:45 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494279 , Reply# 3 2/6/2011 at 02:47 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494280 , Reply# 4 2/6/2011 at 02:48 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494281 , Reply# 5 2/6/2011 at 02:49 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494282 , Reply# 6 2/6/2011 at 02:50 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494289 , Reply# 13 2/6/2011 at 02:58 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494290 , Reply# 14 2/6/2011 at 02:59 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494291 , Reply# 15 2/6/2011 at 03:00 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494292 , Reply# 16 2/6/2011 at 03:01 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494293 , Reply# 17 2/6/2011 at 03:02 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494294 , Reply# 18 2/6/2011 at 03:03 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494295 , Reply# 19 2/6/2011 at 03:04 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 494301 , Reply# 20 2/6/2011 at 03:22 (4,821 days old) by nanook (Seattle) |
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Post# 494338 , Reply# 21 2/6/2011 at 06:58 (4,821 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Thanks for all the great brochure scans---in this and the other threads, as well.
We had the all-pushbutton Lady Kenmore (circa 1973 or '74). It wasn't quiet by today's standards, but it cleaned normal loads very well, and of course the Roto Rack was always fun to load and play with. Loved the water temp and cycle indicator lights. Ours rusted out and was being held together by some hardening goop that my stepfather put over the numerous rust holes. I replaced it with a TOL KitchenAid shortly after my mom passed in 1985. | ||
| Post# 494347 , Reply# 22 2/6/2011 at 08:06 (4,821 days old) by cyclemonitor () | ||
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Now let's do 1967
Does the picture look Very Mad Men!
Don Draper....overlooking his family...depicting life in the 60's | ||
| Post# 494354 , Reply# 23 2/6/2011 at 08:28 (4,821 days old) by cyclemonitor () | ||
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Post# 494356 , Reply# 25 2/6/2011 at 08:31 (4,821 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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Our other neighbors across the street had the very, most Top-Of-The Line L/K D/W, all push-buttons (just like their 1950's 40" Hotpoint Range) & in white!
When new people moved into the house the old Lady Kenmore was the only original OLD appliance there, besides, the Coldspot upright freezer; the range, fridge, dryer & washer got replaced (& the washer, TWICE!) & the Lady Kenmore got put out on the street, 'cause we heard when the new people turned it on, it flooded the kitchen! (The newer Tappan range/microwave combo in wheat also got thrown out, too...) The washer & dryer moved w/ the old people who lived there, though... -- Dave (w/ More Appliance Memories!) | ||
| Post# 494357 , Reply# 26 2/6/2011 at 08:32 (4,821 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 494372 , Reply# 31 2/6/2011 at 08:57 (4,821 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 494383 , Reply# 33 2/6/2011 at 09:28 (4,821 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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| Post# 494394 , Reply# 34 2/6/2011 at 09:54 (4,821 days old) by kenmore700bill (Lodi NJ) | ||
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| Post# 494409 , Reply# 35 2/6/2011 at 10:40 (4,821 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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How much the front-loading portable's buttons sugggest the keyboards of the Lady K
and how the top-loader looks so much like a washer that it's funny and the TOL thick butcher-block top with a loaf, of bread--what a stunning, "come hither" dishwasher, but that guy all aloof from his family--what a telling cultural moment that! You and David have created dishwasher heaven here at Aworg. What a great Sunday morning newspaper you guys have made. | ||
| Post# 494435 , Reply# 36 2/6/2011 at 12:26 (4,820 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Very nice! Peter & David, Thanks so much for such great scans! The Lady Kenmore's were such great looking dishwashers! Brent | ||
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Post# 494579 , Reply# 37 2/6/2011 at 22:52 (4,820 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Thanks for posting these. In the '67 brochure, I see they had Shaded Doeskin and Shaded Slate Blue in addition to the more common colors. Remembered Doeskin, but I had forgotten what Sears called their version of Whirlpool's Edged Sapphire - it was Slate. Wish they had run that color longer than the just a couple years. | ||
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Post# 494605 , Reply# 38 2/7/2011 at 03:08 (4,820 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Not a Hoover ...
Mike
The rotating rack Hoovers where not made by Hoover, only labelled as such. They were in fact made by Zanussi, who also made the Hoover fridges and freezers (and fridge freezers). The video is of some fun we had at ChesterMike's a couple of years ago. I dont recall the 80cm dishwasher from the 1980s but there have been some wider dishwashers appearing on the market now although these seen to be not so tall and for building in - there is nothing new in the world as there is an American dishwasher that pops up on the POD (was up a couple of weeks ago if I remember right) demonstrating this concept right back in the 1950s. Given that some of todays 60cm footprint dishwashers run to 14 or 15 place settings you must have a LOT of dishes - how old is your Miele? CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK | ||
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Post# 495758 , Reply# 40 2/11/2011 at 17:51 (4,815 days old) by turquoisedude (.) |
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Post# 495764 , Reply# 41 2/11/2011 at 18:14 (4,815 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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 We had the 7214 in the house in Houston. It was the successor to the 1968 Waste King and the last dishwasher my parents got before theymoved out of the house was the GE GSD1200, which replaced the rotorack in like late 1987 or first half of 1988.
Does anyone have the 1970 or 1971 model ine up of rotoracks? Since we have the 1969 and 1972 line up. | ||
| Post# 1077064 , Reply# 42 6/14/2020 at 11:01 (1,405 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hadn't seen any of these DW's before, Pete; they're fabulous.Thank you. Look at the size of some of those the select-o-dials, and so much mind-boggling variety--Christ ! --it's like a million different dishwashers. And with Sears gone, will we ever see Kenmore again? Or is Kemore already gone?
This futuristic one on the left is the bomb! ;'D
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| Post# 1077065 , Reply# 43 6/14/2020 at 11:08 (1,405 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Cool that they made an all pushbutton dial-free one, just like the '59 rapid advance washer--even in the portable.
This is so much fun. You scanned your butt off, Man.
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Post# 1077067 , Reply# 44 6/14/2020 at 11:33 (1,405 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine) |
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I had that same Lady K for many years and it worked perfect until the 2 screws on the bottom of the door wore holes thru the porcelain tub and started leaking. Only drawback was no air dry just a 12 or 24 minute heated dry. The timer was behind the indicator lights and had a motor that rewound after the cycle ended.
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Post# 1077069 , Reply# 45 6/14/2020 at 11:48 (1,405 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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Mickey, Kenmore dishwashers and other appliances are on Sears.com and at Sears Hometown stores. There is one of those stores in Bowling Green, OH, near where my sister lives. The closest to me is in Connersville, IN. | ||
| Post# 1077073 , Reply# 46 6/14/2020 at 12:47 (1,405 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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It was the Golden Age of dishwashers. We should gather up every one we can, and have John add a third floor to the museum.
Tom, our Sears was a beehive of activity; every other house had a Kenmore, and now it's a ghost town. What a dramatic sea change. I'll check out your citations, and see what survives in Western New York. Thanks. | ||
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Post# 1077210 , Reply# 48 6/15/2020 at 10:18 (1,404 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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The guy sitting aloof on the sofa had gas. His family put him there and he is holding onto the arm of the sofa to stave off a rapid pressure equalization.
I remember seeing a LK Combo in Doeskin; such a beautiful machine in an elegant color. | ||
| Post# 1077305 , Reply# 49 6/15/2020 at 23:42 (1,403 days old) by Awooff (Peoria, Illinois) | ||
Gas on sofa | ||
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Post# 1077475 , Reply# 50 6/16/2020 at 23:13 (1,402 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Kenmore Roto-Rack Brochures Nice collection of brochures, you have to wonder if the happy Lady in reply #11 is having an affaire with the Sears repairman, knowing the terrible reliability of D&M built DWs it certainly could have been quite an affair, LOL
I will always remember my 8th grade Algebra teacher who was badly burned with problems from a Sears Kenmore DW [ who otherwise loved her Kenmore appliances ], She would go up to people in Her Sears store who were looking at KM DWs and whisper over their shoulder [ Buy A Kitchenaid Dishwasher ]
In reply#30 the specs still list boosted water temps for the LKM BI of 155 or 180, I wonder if the 240 volt model was still available ?
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Post# 1077491 , Reply# 51 6/17/2020 at 06:09 (1,402 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I can't imagine what you would need 180F wash water to clean.
Those KM dishwashers were not built well, but they did offer features that other dishwashers did not, like a separate water supply to the Roto Rack for great flexibility in loading. | ||
| Post# 1077527 , Reply# 52 6/17/2020 at 13:08 (1,402 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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My dad had plenty of offers from women customers, including that they couldn't afford the service call, and could he accept another form of payment. We'd hear abouth them at dinner. My mom would call him out for sharing sometimes, so he'd change the subject to desert, and tell us he baked it in his van. | ||
| Post# 1077528 , Reply# 53 6/17/2020 at 13:10 (1,402 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Oh, once, it wasn't a female. A 17, or 18 year old guy. Not for money. My dad replied, sorry, don't go that way. The kid said, I won't tell your wife. Of course all these incidents were reported to his manager. | ||
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Post# 1077991 , Reply# 54 6/20/2020 at 16:36 (1,398 days old) by electronicontrl (Grand Rapids, MI) |
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Thank you | ||
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Post# 1078028 , Reply# 55 6/20/2020 at 18:45 (1,398 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Wash Rinse Rinse Wash Rinse Rinse Dry | ||
| Post# 1078234 , Reply# 57 6/22/2020 at 11:26 (1,397 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Interesting. | ||
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Post# 1078236 , Reply# 58 6/22/2020 at 12:05 (1,397 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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3 Finel Rinses | ||
| Post# 1078240 , Reply# 59 6/22/2020 at 12:16 (1,397 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Post# 1078256 , Reply# 60 6/22/2020 at 13:52 (1,396 days old) by Bigalsf (Salt Lake City) |
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Tappan made their own machines originally, but then farmed them out to Whirlpool, D&M, and then finally Frigidaire/Electrolux. | ||
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Post# 1078265 , Reply# 61 6/22/2020 at 15:03 (1,396 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois) |
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I bought my Mom the 1967 version of the Lady Kenmore with the butcher block top and the color was Coppertone. It washed well and the roto-rack always produced clean glasses etc. She used it until 1978. I still have the butcher block top, I just couldn't see throwing out all of that thick wood. | ||
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Post# 1078267 , Reply# 62 6/22/2020 at 16:08 (1,396 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Tappan Dishwashers I believe when Tappan ceased making their own dishwashers, they became produced by D&M. At some point in time, probably 1983 or 1984, they farmed out their dishwasher production to GE. The house I began building in Houston in Fall of 1984 had a Tappan kitchen and the dishwasher was definitely a GE Potscrubber. On Pots & Pans cycle, it had 3 post wash rinses, just as my GSD1200 did on Potscrubber & Normal Wash. I went to a wedding reception in Houston in around 1982 or 1983 and the kitchen where the reception was had a D&M produced Tappan. | ||
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Post# 1078475 , Reply# 65 6/24/2020 at 07:04 (1,395 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Three final Rinses Great information Alan, We had a WP SAU500 that we bought in 1975 that replaced the 1966 Kenmore [ D&M ] that came with the new Sears kitchen that my parents had installed in the family home in the fall of 66.
The WP DW did not replace the KM till late in 1977. My parents moved to a new house in 1975 and it came with a brand new Kitchenaid KDI-17 DW, My Mom took one look at it and said how is it going to work with only one wash arm ? She also did not like the messy filter design of the KA, so I said I could change it as I was working for a MT, WP, KA appliance dealer by this time. I took the KA out and installed the new WP and brought the new KA back two the store and sold it to someone that wanted a KA DW.
In 1977 my Dads job transferred my Mom and younger Brother Phil to Minnesota. the housing market was poor and the house in Ohio did not sell right away so Dads company bought the house to facilitate the move.
When I heard that I went out to Ohio with a slightly used HG GE DW and grabbed the WP brought it back to Maryland and junked the now 12 YO rusty D&M DW. The WP never had a single problem for 10 years and worked great, when we Remolded the kitchen in 1988 I installed two new WP DU8000XR DWs that are still working great.
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Post# 1078480 , Reply# 66 6/24/2020 at 09:28 (1,395 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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Fun! Thank You! I recollect roto-racks and the heating-delay cycle. If you loaded them properly and used the heating delay, you could get really, really clean pots and pans. My mom found a trick - she'd begin by advancing the cycle to the deep-heat rinse, put in warm, not hot water (portable, obviously) and set it to do the hygenic rinse. Detergent went in by hand. By the time it had raised the temperature to where it needed to go, the machine had scrubbed things genuinely clean. She then did the rinses again with hot water and that was that - super cleaning. And, yes, the roto-racks did break glasses regularly. | ||
| Post# 1078715 , Reply# 67 6/26/2020 at 10:00 (1,393 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Many thanks, Gentlemen and best wishes for a Happy Friday
Am guessing that mine was not a D&M, since the consensus was that they were not great performers; the Tappan I had, however, was. Have owned this house for just over a quarter century, the former owner was here for three years, I rented for a year, so now we're at 1990. The people who remodeled the place were here for maybe 5. So we're at 1985, plus or minus. I CAN pin down the exact date, but I'll need to do more work.
It had two arms, but then one day when I ran it with he door open, there was a plastic cylinder with a tipped cap and a one-eyed slit that rotated, spraying water around the tub. It was a fun little octopus. Does that help identify and help fix the year, more or less, when Tappan was made by either, Whirlpool, General Electric, DM, or Frigidaire. I love this stuff, but my deep regret is that I junked the machine just a few years ago when the door latch finally failed after many band-aids, before I knew that Alan wanted it, alas, replacing it with one of his finds.
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Post# 1078716 , Reply# 68 6/26/2020 at 10:09 (1,393 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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D&M were not all bad | ||
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Post# 1078721 , Reply# 69 6/26/2020 at 10:48 (1,393 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Mikes 1985 Tappan DW
Hi Mike, it sounds like you had a D&M-FD hi-bred design.
WCI had both FD and D&M DW plants and designs and they started to put them together in the 80s, They were better than the D&M machines, but WCI completely disbanded both designs when Electrolux took over ownership and they brought out a plastic tank DW that was European in design. John L. | ||
| Post# 1078723 , Reply# 70 6/26/2020 at 11:21 (1,393 days old) by Mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hello John !
Forget to say that the one-eyed slit fist cylinder popped up off the lower wash arm. Hybrid it is then--it sure worked swell. On the Mega cycle it heated either the pre-wash and the wash, or both, then the final third rinse. The dishes came out brand spankin' new. LOL.
Alan is really interested in this machine. My hope is to find another one to send to him. It was a built-in; myself, I prefer the portables like your fabulous Frigidaire at the museum. | ||
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Post# 1078729 , Reply# 71 6/26/2020 at 13:05 (1,393 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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