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Mini basket water level detection : how does it work ? |
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Post# 496359 , Reply# 1 2/14/2011 at 05:47 (4,811 days old) by jamiel  (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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yes. water fills the outer (regular) tub to a very low level,(governed by the water level switch just like a regular load) then when agitation starts, it's pumped into the minibasket. there are some small holes in the minibasket bottom to have a certain amount of water drip through so there is at least a little filtering of the washwater going on. the spin is thrown out the sides of the minibasket (has slots near the top)
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Post# 496364 , Reply# 2 2/14/2011 at 06:58 (4,811 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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GE MINIBASKET OPERATION The holes in the bottom o the Minibasket are there to let heavy soils such as sand leave the wash basket and be flushed away. The wash water is constantly being filtered by the regular lint filter which forms the lid of the Minibasket, the filter-lid also keeps small light weight items from being thrown over the top of the Minibasket when the washer spins the water out of the Minibasket. It was a very clever feature and some users really liked them. Overall the filter flow washers were very crude washers that used an excessive amount of water. And to me any washer design that with the first off-balance load allows the inner tub to go crashing against the outer tub as it rubs the porcelain coating of both to me is pretty poorly designed. If I had bought a new one of these I would have made them change both damaged tubs every time it did this. This design flaw plus the way the top was sealed to the top of the outer tub caused many outer tubs and washer tops to rust through let alone all the stinky washer complaints. Mold & stinky washer complaints are not just a new FL washer problem. | ||
| Post# 496383 , Reply# 3 2/14/2011 at 09:33 (4,811 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
Mini Basket
The other design, which I have is the SpotScrubber model, with is solid on the bottom. Don't wash anything with sediment/sand in these as it collect in the bottom. Identifiable by being a light blue shade and were made from what I gather from 86-93. A neat idea where the Filter-Flo turns off leaving a super-concentrated detergent solution in a half full mini-basket. Since there are no holes in the bottom, the solution stays in there. The cycle compensates for the holy soapy article by offering 2 rinses.
John is right, these machines are the most water hungry top-loader (as my water bill reflects) that walks the planet. The reason is the aforementioned suspension system. The outer-tub is the entire diameter of the cabinet and fixed to it, so the smaller tub swings around inside that area. This might be acceptable for a solid-tub machine, which I feel is a design that these machines were based on, but in a perforated tub machine, the machine has to fill that suspension clearance with water. It's not usable washing space to the washer so it's a waste. I also have several crash scars near the top of my outer tub, luckily not rusting through. I enjoy these machines, I had one as a kid (my 1st automatic) and all of the coin laundries here had them when I was growing up. Sometimes you like something not for how good it is but how it makes you feel, and that's where I stand with the GE's. I also have sense enough admit a design flaw and these machines were riddled with them. It doesn't mean I'm going to toss out my washer, it simply is what it is. -Tim | ||
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Post# 496412 , Reply# 4 2/14/2011 at 12:17 (4,811 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC) |
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Tim -
Your comments above reminded me of a fun day with my washer buddy back when I was just getting started with repairing and rebuilding. I worked on washers for fun, however for him it was a business and career. He enjoyed what he did and enjoyed having someone around to share it. We had a standard capacity GE, I believe it was a late 1970s machine, that I had taken on trade for a re-done KM. He liked GEs so I gave it to him in trade for (one guess) a black panel Kenmore. He gave me so many machines over the years it really wasn't a trade.... Anyway, we were running the GE on a full-water test after he fixed the clutch, and we drained the water into a standard cap. Whirlpool. The water from the GE filled the WP, and there was water leftover, quite a bit if memory serves. Ever since then I have considered the GEs to be water hogs. Each machine has it's drawbacks though, so we never really gave that a second look. I remember too the "battle scars" as he called them, that would wear into the sides of the outer tub in the GEs. Does this cause eventual rust through? Gordon | ||
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Post# 496439 , Reply# 5 2/14/2011 at 15:12 (4,811 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I have a few I am playing with, and although they use a lot of water, I can't seem to create a suds lock with these machines, and the rinse is always clear, but none the less, they may have some flaws, what machine doesn't, but I love the minibasket/miniquick cycle option, the full speed pump, and during the spin how the water flows up an over to flush out the entire machine, I never had mold/mildew issues, of course Mom always washed/rinsed in warm water, and left the lid up while not in use......I just didn't know back then what great machines they were for the most part, but having a BOL wasn't much fun, always hoped for one with a few more options growing up....but live and learn....not to mention how much better the roto-swirl agitator was than the straight vanes....go figure
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| Post# 496444 , Reply# 6 2/14/2011 at 16:16 (4,811 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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GE's Gordon: The outer tub scars will eventually rust through and leak. My original SpotScrubber doner machine had suffered from that. My current machine doesn't have any bad marks, the tub in general is rusting evenly and nothing is bad yet. I will at some point grind it down a bit and epoxy it, but it seldom smacks the tub.
Martin: You CAN sudslock a GE. Here's how: Get a mini-basket and set the water-level accordingly. Put in a half-scoop (red cup) of Kirkland's Institutional Detergent (Super Concentrated!). Let it rip and suds will come out of the lid. When spin starts the spin speed slows to a crawl and it takes all of the spray rinse to flush the machine enough to get up to a faster speed. Usually enough suds leftover to have a 2nd wash in the rinse. I didn't do this intentionally and I'm sure the clutch didn't like it, but it was neat in that "Ouch that has to hurt" kinda way. Perhaps I should make a video...
-Tim | ||
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Post# 496465 , Reply# 7 2/14/2011 at 18:51 (4,810 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Tim
under extremes like that it probably would suds lock, but under normal load conditions, wether 1/2 or full load, I have doubled and tripled the amount of detergent, even added a half bottle of dawn, got loads of dense suds, and it pulled thru every time........ but in a Maytag or Whirlpool, even a half cup too much of detergent will make it sudslock, and you need at least 2 rinses to get it all out.....at least thats the way it works for me....so for these machines, I stick with Sears Ultra Plus, fortunately you can add four, five or 10 scoops, and never get suds during the wash or rinse....which is also great for FL's...... but thanks for your input just the same....... | ||
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Post# 496469 , Reply# 8 2/14/2011 at 19:16 (4,810 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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SUDS LOCKING GEs | ||
| Post# 496504 , Reply# 9 2/14/2011 at 23:01 (4,810 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Luke, I am Your Father (GASP, GASP...)
I should have worn my respirator mask! ha!
Yes Martin, I know what you're saying about the "normal" water level washes, a whole scoop of the same detergent doesn't even phase the wash-water on 3/4 - full levels. I was very surprised nonetheless about the suds-lock situation as I have NEVER experienced that even with Gain, with is very sudsy. With the machine in SpotScrubber mode, I put a whole scoop in the basket and it doesn't sudslock because the Filter-Flo shuts off and that frothy concoction stays in the mini-basket. I see now just why the SS machine has a solid mini-basket and cuts the filtering. The agitator with that little bit of water is ridiculously aggressive and could whip suds from anything.
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Post# 496583 , Reply# 10 2/15/2011 at 10:28 (4,810 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I used to SpotScrub all the time for grimy work clothes and stains that wouldn't come out in the regular wash.....
my formula: 1/2 load of water, and 2 cups detergent, and 1 cup of color safe bleach....the agitation was aggressive.....no stain had a chance....... but I would always have a suds lock condition in a MT and WP.....the GE FF never did.....but maybe I never over powered the detergent enough to kill it but thats also like my SQ ST, I use a high suds detergent, and watch the overflo rinse wash away the suds before the first spin, and then take off spinning with nothing in its way, I'm probably slowly killing it, but just amazed at how nothing gets in its way, it handles any load with ease....this is what we miss in these new machines...... | ||
| Post# 496595 , Reply# 11 2/15/2011 at 11:20 (4,810 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
Lots of fun and great info here Finally understand how the Spot Scrubber works. Thanks, had been dying to know.
In the older GE I have, the old motor (now replaced) did a trick I'd love to see again and share with fellow water drama lovers. What happened was that it would ramp up to full speed very fast, and even with GE's sensational pump power, the water would be whirling back into the tub in great arcs from the outer tub. In a very sudsy wash, it was quite a spectacle. And the GE would get it all out without a blink.
Always wondered if anyone else had this experience. The new motor has a slower ramp up and the water works are no where near as dramatic.
Here's what's on the to-do list: the GE has a long generous spray rinse, but most of the water shoots into the outer tub. have studied this many times with the hood up. Worse, during mini-basket loads, which is what I most often do in the GE, none of the spray rinse water hits the load. | ||
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Post# 496656 , Reply# 12 2/15/2011 at 14:19 (4,810 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Mike
I had the same issues of water spraying into the outter tub, simple 5 second fix that can be reversed, pop the top, and take the water flume, and flip it back on itself, it will stay that way and cause the water to spray on the load as it hits the splash shield.....caution: don't turn on the water with the top up....if needed, with the top up, use a cable tie and strap the lid switch so the machine will run with the lid open..... but no water will ever hit inside of the minibasket, its supply of wateronly comes from the filter flo during agitation only!....do you have the seperate mini-quick cycle option?....this has a long spin/spray to flush out any suds from the outter tub..... now as far as the water splash over during the spin, it has nothing to do with the new motor, your clutches may be wearing down or not engaging quick enough to spin the tub faster with a full tub of water.....I have 2 that do this with ease, also agitation kicks in high by the second stroke...and I have 2 machines that are slower to react so to speak.... 2 models I have offer the "extra rinse" switch added to the Regular cycle, but theres also the "ExtraCleaning" cycle, which still has 2 rinses automatically, but spin/sprays in the first 2 spins, which is nice for towels, theres no suds to be found at the end... show us some pics of your machine......any other help needed, just ask 
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| Post# 496668 , Reply# 13 2/15/2011 at 15:36 (4,810 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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God, how easy. Thanks. Wish I had asked you you a long time | ||
| Post# 496671 , Reply# 14 2/15/2011 at 15:40 (4,810 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Post# 496680 , Reply# 15 2/15/2011 at 16:09 (4,810 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Mike
Any help I can be.....just ask or email me....were always here...... not all pumps are created equal....theres a few that are somewhat normal...and a few that are very powerful, during filtering it can throw the water out of the pan, and during spin it can jet propel the hose up and out of the drain or sink...been there... one thing I miss about newer style tubs with lesser rows of holes, during spin with an empty tub, at top speed the holes would whistle........but yet with the high water pressure I have, during fill the air gap whistles at high pitch, anoying as all hell, removing it and replacing it with plastic pipe keeps it quiet....nothing we can rig up to solve a problem..... | ||
| Post# 496718 , Reply# 16 2/15/2011 at 19:16 (4,809 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA) | ||
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Spotscrubber filtering cutoff How does the Spotscrubber system cut off the Filter-Flo circulation? Does it have some mechanism of disengaging the pump? | ||
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Post# 496723 , Reply# 17 2/15/2011 at 19:47 (4,809 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 496725 , Reply# 18 2/15/2011 at 19:58 (4,809 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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SpotScrubber vs. Mini-Wash | ||
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Post# 496726 , Reply# 19 2/15/2011 at 20:01 (4,809 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Spin Sprays & minibaskets Or the lack there of. that's why I didn't use the MB for very long, rinsing was pathetic since there was no utilitarian spin spray other than the clear the pump of the suds residue. I simply used the mini-quick cycle and the lowest water level. Sometimes, if it was just one or two items, I simply use the minibasket waterr level setting and throw the two pieces in the big tub. | ||
| Post# 496792 , Reply# 20 2/16/2011 at 07:56 (4,809 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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SpotScrubber The SpotScrubber came with a light blue mini-basket with no holes in the bottom. The machine had a dedicated timer and cycle for the SS to work. The SS cycle on the dial was used in conjunction with a ~1 minute timer on the control panel (labeled "SpotScrubber"). When the SS cycle is selected and the dial on the control panel is set, the smaller timer runs for it's time and then activates a solenoid that is mounted at the rear of the machine. The Filter-Flo flume hose on the SS model is a unique collapsible rubber hose (not harder rubber like the normal machines) that passes through a bracket with a solenoid attached. When activated, the solenoid had a flat plate attached that "crushes" the Filter-Flo flume hose thus stopping any circulation. Some pressure remains at the end of the cycle and when the machine cuts off, a small blast of water shoots out of the Filter-Flo flume from the solenoid releasing, it's kinda cool. The SS cycle includes an extra rinse built-in and the machine does have a Mini-Quick cycle as well. It's an 86 model, and the lower of the 2 SS models (8500).
Mickey: My washer did the same thing, my clutch goes insufferably loud and I replaced it with a used (matching) motor/clutch and relay. It is smoother sounding, but takes much longer to get up to speed. Mine used to spray over into the inner tub when spinning on the higher water levels, especially with a lot of suds.
Bob: The machine to my knowledge only came with the solid-tub mini-basket and matching blue large diameter filter hat. The manual goes pretty in-depth and mentions and depicts only that basket. The machine has a separate cycle for SS and the Mini-Quick, the SS is colored in silver on my machine ('86 model 8500) and the Mini-Quick is just before it in orange. The machine has Regular, Perm. Press/Knits, Mini-Quick, and SpotScrubber. 3 dials in the center (4 temps, variable water level, and SS) and 3 button on the left bank (F/F, F/S, S/S) for the speed. I will post a few pics if you'd like. I don't think they call it the "Mini-Wash" by name on this machine.
-Tim
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Post# 496795 , Reply# 21 2/16/2011 at 08:05 (4,809 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Bob
there were 2 of the so called largest minibaskets, difference being the SS one did not have holes at the bottom, water did not drain out, so the concentrate of water and detergent would work to remove stains, plus the added scrubbing, only during spin did the water get thrown out, very much similar to a solid tub machine so for water level, set to mini-wash, cycle modifier was set to SpotScrubber, and SpotScrubber Cycle was used......combined together for one purpose.... but the minibasket could still be used as usual for tiny loads, using the regular cycle or Mini-Quick if available...... as far as water level PreSet.....the selector is turned and releases the cam from normal water level selections to a PreSet screw inside.....sometimes adjustments need to be made......keep in mind once the minibasket is filled the filter flo should continue and not run out of water, that is all that is needed, any more is a waste.......I had to adjust one this past week, it added too much water, about 7 gallons is the normal amount, thats approx 5 gallons for the minibasket, and 2 for the overflo and replenish......(at first I had enough water to fill the minibasket 2 1/2 times) the way I corrected it for the least amount needed was allow the unit to add water, agitation started, once the minibasket filled and overflowed, I stopped the machine and quickly pulled the basket out and dumped out the water, I then replaced the minibasket and started the machine again, the filter flo filled the basket 1/2 way and ran out of water.....this was enough to complete it purpose, once filled there should be a small amount in the inner tub barely touching the agitator, like I said any more would be a waste, any less and the pressure switch would reset to add more water normally not needed, just somewhat a fine line of not too much or too little..... and you do have many options with the water levels, miniwash-with or without the minibasket, and then theres small thru ex-large......plus the combination of speeds and cycles of your choice, the possiblities are endless, this is what I would consider a VersaTronic machine...although some may disagree And I am the first to say I disliked these machines when I grew up with one, THAT WOULDN"T DIE!...was a BOL machine.....and the pan that was in my way of viewing the wash...has come back to bite me in the ASS as a few of the best machines I own...........and to top it off, my cousin allowed me to do her wash--and she owned the same freakin model machine!!!---GOD has a sense of humor! | ||
| Post# 496815 , Reply# 22 2/16/2011 at 10:53 (4,809 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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GE's that won't die--too funny--sturdy little bugger
Bob, got so tired of the long flush to nowhere, I just click the finger-friendly valve switch that supplies water to the washer, and shut it off for mini-basket loads during the spray rinse. I've been using Tide HE lately because it smells so good, almost like the old Dash, so oversudsing is not a problem.
Tim, so good to hear more about the spotscrub--wont'be be scratchin' my head about that one any more. Another fun thing about the Mini-quick button is that you can use it for any load: it cuts increment time by two-thirds, from 3 minutes to 1. In total agreement with Martin about the versatility of these machines; they'll do anything. Here's the mini-basket water level setting without the basket, which may be the lowest water level available on any automatic top-loader. EDIT: forgot to add--about GE's being water hogs. If you look at the huge gap between the inner and outer tub in reply 13, that's quite a bit of water--just noticed this morning. Haven't read how much is out there, but if you use Tim's or Martin's numbers, could it really be around 8 gallons or more? That's a lotta H2O. 
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| Post# 496830 , Reply# 23 2/16/2011 at 11:39 (4,809 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Water hogs
Hi Gordon
With the very tight curve of the aluminum drain hook and the rather short hose, and the fact that the garage GE drains into a conduit, while the basement GE drains into the sump pump, I have actually never done any of my suds-saver, water tricks into tubs or other machines with the GE's--very, very unusual for me--so I really had no clue as to GE's water usage, but after what you said yesterday, and after posting and studying the photo for the first time, I'm stuck now on a new and interesting problem/fascination. Next full load will go into the GE in the basement (garage babies are all hibertnating) and the spin-off will be conducted into the Lady K. Visimatic. I wonder if how much she'll be able to take before I have to engage her powerful pump. | ||
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Post# 496834 , Reply# 24 2/16/2011 at 12:02 (4,809 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Mike
if theres one thing I have learned is to measure just about everything, just to compare, before and after, one way or the other, the mind is always working..... for the miniwash, a gallon here or there should not matter, five gallons is a different story.......I just kept adjusting my machine until it triggered the pressure switch to stop the machine and add more water, and turn the screw enough just to eliminate this......drain into a five gallon bucket, and I filled it 1 1/2 times...roughly 7 to 7 1/2 gallons and yes these machines are so called water hogs....but I can't complain even if these were my only set and daily drivers....between the capacity and ability to handle a variety of loads, and multiple cycle variations, if there were only one machine this would be it....and I feel the same way about Whirlpool/Kenmore Dryers....this give me the best of a mix/match set, others may think otherwise.... thinking of measuring.......wash a load of towels in your machine, after the last spin, reset it to spin again and put the drain hose into a jar, see how much more water comes out!.....sometimes I can get almost 4 cups more, thats a lot of moisture for a dryer to remove, somewhat a downside on just about any toploader....food for thought, and it may be all in my mind, but do a warm rinse instead of cold, clothes seem lighter, fluffier, and more water removed....could be an illusion...but just a preference no matter what....my heart belongs to Speed Queen solid tubs.....you would think there would be more found in my area, we had 2 SQ dealers in one town, one guy is a friend of mine.....and yet their scarce.... I like Tide powder with bleach.....a very potent detergent that I have come to trust to get out the stains everytime, the first time thru.........If your gonna pay for water, plus heating it, and electric for the machine---your gonna want to get it right the first time, your not saving if you have to wash it several times with a cheaper detergent.....but for normal loads Sears UP works just as well, we all have our formulas one way or the other that work best for us, trial and error, shared ideas, it all comes out in the wash! not too many machines had that miniquick button, most have the special cycle..and their great for a small load, my partner tries Miniquick on a full load, not good results..............can you get us a pic of your machines control panels? | ||
| Post# 496845 , Reply# 25 2/16/2011 at 12:27 (4,809 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hi Martin
I do the same thing with extra spins in the Unimatic for heavy winter stuff. The WP dryer takes from 20-25 minutes to dry a double-spin unimatic load. Amazing & priceless.
Full disclosure: The uni in use has a Mallory timer making the spin 7 minutes, so that's 14 for the double spin, not the ususal 5, then 10. This is the best I can do right now, sorry. My machines have the four switches on the left for speed & temp, a water level knob, a second rinse knob, the mini-quick cycle shortener switch, and the main dial. 
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| Post# 496852 , Reply# 26 2/16/2011 at 12:38 (4,809 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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another shot of the enormous outer tub | ||
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Post# 496864 , Reply# 27 2/16/2011 at 13:57 (4,809 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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You have the model my brother had in 77......that switch was a neat idea for the time......the four switches offer a great variety, all of mine have 3 selections for wash/spin.(norm/fast, norm/slow, gentle/slow) and my choice would always be fast spin no matter what the agitation....beggars can't be choosy....
I never had it happen, but I have seen machines get ruined from socks or underwear jamming the pump and burning out the motor......I could never understand how this happened, the most I ever came across was stockings getting caught under the agitator.....but I could see this from the minibasket as you described.... clothes retainer---is yours removed or just missing? I'd like to find a four vane agitator like yours, just to change out for some fun....this is one of my play toys, with the most options 
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| Post# 496873 , Reply# 28 2/16/2011 at 15:40 (4,809 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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very nice--what year ? You can see the controls and everything else in this flick, right after my babbling about the Visimatic. It won't take long, I promise. Since the taping of this, the Visi has been fully restored--so happy! CLICK HERE TO GO TO mickeyd's LINK | ||
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Post# 496875 , Reply# 29 2/16/2011 at 15:52 (4,809 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Post# 496881 , Reply# 30 2/16/2011 at 16:16 (4,809 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Excellent videos Mike....I have seen them before and didn't know that was you.....you have a nice collection there.....
for some of the hoses you have with the leaks......not sure if this helps, but I have on several occasions used auto-type hoses for replacements, some have been exact matches, worth a shot, you never know! I would like to see a full load in that vista-matic....funny how the agitator in that one has vanes all the way up, yet in the automatic their only half way up... Thanks again Martin | ||
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Post# 496911 , Reply# 31 2/16/2011 at 18:51 (4,808 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Maybe I'm being dense, but there is one thing I cannot seem to get my mind around. OK, on SS setting, the water stops coming in after a minute or so and the water is held in the mini-basket for the concentrated stain cleaning/scrubbing. But, what blows my mind is, did I get reality correct? That being, when the regular mini-wash settings are used and the SS action does have that valve clamp off the filter-flo flume, is there neough water sloshed out of the holes in the top of the MB tub to keep replinishing the pump for constinat water circulation? And what about the lack of little holes in the bottom for heavy sediment. Being a former MB user it just blow my mind at the concept of water being sloshed/flung out of the top holes while activating to keep pump replenashed and circulating for regular MB applications and no SS cycle. That's why I asked whether the machine came with two MBs, one for regular mini-basket washes and one for the SS application. | ||
| Post# 496942 , Reply# 32 2/16/2011 at 20:01 (4,808 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Sloshing Water Bob, Oh yes, there is plenty. Plus the extra buffer of water that machine fills with compensates. That thing just keep overflowing, no shortage at all. It doesn't look like it would, but it really does.
If I'm getting what you're saying, and correct me if I'm not. The SS cycle is the only cycle that cuts the filter spout, and only then will it do so if you've set the SS dial. All other mini-basket functions (including the 2 rinses on the SS cycle) keep the filtering on and overflow the min-basket like on a normal machine. When the SS is not on, the water really does flow out of the basket top holes like crazy. One basket only, there are no sediment holes in the SS basket because it needs to hold the water in because once the SS timer cuts the water, there is no other way for water to enter the basket. The SS timer equates to the SS basket being about 1/2 full before shutting off to ensure as little splash out as possible.
I hope I answered that... I was a little fuzzy of what you were asking
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Post# 496957 , Reply# 33 2/16/2011 at 20:27 (4,808 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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Bob
sediment is one downside to a solid MB....... the same amount of water is used as per the pressure switch set at MW......wether used as SS or normal MB use...........if adjusted correctly, there is enough water available for either option, I don't have a SS option, but I did plug the holes in the bottom of my MB, I just prefer it that way....I always thought most of the water comming out of the MB was from the top, never thought about the bottom holes, some of the first ones even had holes in the middle of the agitator.... granted some water will be sloshed out during SS selection, but enough will remain inside for effective use..........any water leftover in the main tub will just get swished around by the agitator, and then drained during the spin..... consider it like the first GE FF with the solid tub, water overflowed, from the top, into the outer tub, and then replenished by the pump back into the inner tub, first going thru the filter pan.....there was no bottom holes, not totally sure about GE, but speedqueen ST had collected sediment under the agitator, and a tube ejected/flushed it during the spin......... | ||
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Post# 496960 , Reply# 34 2/16/2011 at 20:40 (4,808 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Post# 496961 , Reply# 35 2/16/2011 at 20:40 (4,808 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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thanks Tim & Martin. Just as I was beginning to read both of your posts, the light in the dim watt lit up. SS harkens back to the original solid tub filter-flos. The water going over the top of the tub helped keep the pump primed and flowing, along with the little hole in the activator that went to the outer tub. DUH. | ||
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Post# 497055 , Reply# 36 2/17/2011 at 07:55 (4,808 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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GE SOLID TUB FF WASHERS | ||
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Post# 497093 , Reply# 37 2/17/2011 at 10:18 (4,808 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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I know what you mean John....SQ sediment tube was not very effective as staying cleared out....most were just compacted like it was cement....on mine it is usually best to remove the agitator and vacuum it out if any was built up...but normal users would never check on this stuff....
Seems like GE had the better plan, a continuous flushing with water, SQ was only effective if it was a few grains, any more and it was an instant clog.... What did Frigidaires solid tubs do for sediment ejection? | ||
| Post# 497097 , Reply# 38 2/17/2011 at 10:37 (4,808 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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"What did Frigidaires solid tubs do for sediment ejectio
Hi Martin, they did nothing. In the view of many, it was their only defect. CR always rated them poor in sand disposal which is no big thing unless you're around sand. And I know about this first hand.
Every summer we'd get a cottage for a few weeks at Crystal beach, Ontario, and when we came home and did the wash, our Tower Unimatic would have these interesting patterns of sand on the sides of the tub. We'd wipe them off with damp diaper rags.
Thanks, Pete. Hearing that makes me happy. | ||
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Is there a way to cut a notch in the nozzle and maybe a small loop out of the rim shield to allow the spray to come forth? Been thinking about how cool a spray rinsing mini-basket would be. Any of you whizzes have any ideas?
