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Post# 501869   3/6/2011 at 16:13 (4,792 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Sorry it took so long, But here we go.




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Post# 501895 , Reply# 20   3/6/2011 at 16:37 (4,792 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
thanks!

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love it!

i have a kdp-2 i picked up in buffalo last summer and i have yet to try it out!
gonna get to it later this year.

enjoyed the reading material!



Post# 501899 , Reply# 21   3/6/2011 at 16:43 (4,792 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Hi Pete

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These are (I think) amazingly quiet for what's going on in there.

I might bring mine in from the "Showroom" for a few days. I just hope yours won't need a drain valve as I'm thinking they are non existant at this point.

I changed mine 3-4 years ago and with the help of stevet... he found me 1 of 2 of the last NIB Valves from Hobart. Very Pricey too.

If you ever need to work on the pump, the bakelite trap under the drain valve is non existant. I sprayed mine with WD-40 and wiggled it for about 2 days. You don't want to break that.

Good Luck with yours. Give it a Whirl. Eddie


Post# 501910 , Reply# 22   3/6/2011 at 17:12 (4,792 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Eddie, thank you.  I've never even seen one of these in person. My cousins had a KD12 in their first house.  It wasn't used much, this was 1972.   But the few times it was run, I remember it being relatively quiet for what was ogoing on inside there too. 


Post# 501920 , Reply# 23   3/6/2011 at 17:30 (4,792 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Hi Bob.

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Those Cast Iron Wash Arms (aka Big Blue) have a tremendous coverage pattern. My KD2 actually wiggles with all that water being thrown around but is amazingly quiet.

Racking is everything in a One Armed Wonder. This machine cleans Very Well considering it has only One Main Wash followed by a 30 sec. Rinse and then a 1 minute rinse.

KitchenAids before the 18 series were and are truly Dishwashers. Yes, you could scoot a few pots and pans in the upper rack if you have room, but cooking for one or two, I like to throw everything in and "Git er done".


Post# 501928 , Reply# 24   3/6/2011 at 17:45 (4,792 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Eddie, based upon photos in the manual, I think I'd like loading a 2P better than a KD12.  You can move the dinner plates to the far left or far right and load them toward the front that way if ya wanted to like in the example shown. 


Post# 501931 , Reply# 25   3/6/2011 at 17:49 (4,792 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Thank you, thank you, and thank you.

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Every time an AW member scans and posts an angel gets its wings.

 

I really want to find a cast-iron-armed KitchenAid one of these days. They are Classics. Aferim!




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Post# 501935 , Reply# 26   3/6/2011 at 17:56 (4,792 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Hi again Bob and Ken

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Bob, You can rack alot of plates in that lower rack as you see. Glassware is sketchy as today's design of glasses have changed, but my glasses fit fine. Wine glasses, Forget about it.

Thanks Ken.

I was amazed when I found this machine on the Cape. The couple I bought it from were Very Young. He was helping me load the machine in my truck and said "Wait a minute." He then went into the back of his car and pulled out the Original Envelope with the instructions and these...


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Post# 501943 , Reply# 30   3/6/2011 at 18:01 (4,792 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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WOW!!!  is all I can say. 


Post# 501948 , Reply# 31   3/6/2011 at 18:19 (4,792 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Don't ya just love...

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The Old Hobart Logo ???

They were all over Commercial Kitchen Equipment back in the 50s and 60s.

It was such a Quality Symbol in the Restaurant Industry.

Logo borrowed from 1952crestwood. KitchenAid was not part of Commercial Equipment as most of you know. It is just the "Hobart" you would see on the front of Commercial Equipment. Ah... Those were the Days !!!

It was just like the Quality Signature that you could Trust and Know that you just spent a Crap Load of Money, but you knew it was going to last.


Post# 501952 , Reply# 32   3/6/2011 at 18:36 (4,792 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)        
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thanks for the tips on the kd2-p. i do have a couple kd-12's and a kd-14 but i think this kd2-p will be more fun to use when i eventually do get to it.

i do love using my kd-12 and i agree 100 percent that before the 18 series came along with that 2nd spray arm etc. they were really dishwashers! that's why i have always said that after the 17 models i gave up interest in kitchenaids. there was something about the fact that one spray arm at the bottom of the tub, whether it be the big blue or the hydrosweep, that one arm could get everything clean!

i just picked up a kd-something last nite here in cinti and it looks really bad! can't even find the name plate to see what it is, think it's a 12. not sure if it will ever run again but i may be surprised. will post pics on it next week. the sump in the tub is black! the big blue arm is rusted. we shall see here.

again love the brochure! i just read it again! and copied it ofcourse! what a classic!



Post# 501962 , Reply# 33   3/6/2011 at 19:07 (4,791 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Oh, Pete...

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Glad you enjoy it.

This is what we do for all of us here.

There is a trick though... They tell you in the manual that the Silverware basket may be in the front or Back. By reversing the Lower Rack. It's best to keep the Silverware basket in the back as it is easier to remove the Coarse Strainer which collects alot of crap. I clean mine after every use as I am not a PreRinser.

The machine is designed to have the Coarse Strainer over the Drain Solenoid Drain Valve. Which is in the back of the machine. This is easier to remove that strainer which Original Design has it designated in that position.

I feel that if the Coarse Strainer is directly over the Drain Port, it will drain faster.

However, you will find that the machine has a different drain quantity over time. Some times I will re-drain it at the end of the Last Rinse as they sometimes leave Extra Water in the sump. You will notice this by the quantity of water drained and the sound of the pump.

We notice this as we have "Trained Ears".


Post# 501975 , Reply# 34   3/6/2011 at 19:42 (4,791 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Eddie, that machine looks like it just came off the showroom floor. 


Post# 501978 , Reply# 35   3/6/2011 at 19:48 (4,791 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Thanks Bob.

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A little TLC and that's how it looks.


Post# 501980 , Reply# 36   3/6/2011 at 19:54 (4,791 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Original Label on Top

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Commended by "Parent's Magazine"

The crumpled up silver label is "All Porcelain Interior"

Also recommended by "McCall's and the "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval" !!!!!!


Post# 502041 , Reply# 37   3/6/2011 at 22:12 (4,791 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Look for them only in brochures...

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I still have my Grandmother's 3-B mixer bought in 1949 and it still works. It still kills me to think that they had achieved near perfection in these machines and to look at the garbage that is available on the market today. I already think Michael Moore is right about everything he exposes but this just puts the cap on the toothpaste. Go out and buy something with the KitchenAid label on it today and see what you get. Greed, greed, greed, greed,  greed.


Post# 502066 , Reply# 38   3/7/2011 at 00:30 (4,791 days old) by A440 ()        

This is awesome Eddie!  Thank you for posting.

I just love the KD-42 setup!  What fun.

Brent


Post# 502159 , Reply# 39   3/7/2011 at 11:46 (4,791 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Oh, cool! Thanks so much for posting this Eddie! I still remember how you showed me how to use the centre section of the upper rack in the 'loading position'.


Post# 502270 , Reply# 40   3/7/2011 at 19:21 (4,790 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Hey Paul.

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I'm in the middle of renovations in my "Crate"

Glad you enjoyed this. I'll be more in touch after the renovation.


Post# 502702 , Reply# 41   3/9/2011 at 10:56 (4,789 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Eddie, I had heard rumors about this 7 minute wash

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but seeing it in black &, in block print......well...... let me tell you, that was really something. SO FAST. But what I most love is the warm-up. Never knew about that, although have heard about the purge in other models. So.... does enough water gather in the sump to soak the dishes as the pump drains it away? Fascinating, really! This old stuff with their magical moves just slays me.


Post# 502852 , Reply# 42   3/9/2011 at 19:17 (4,788 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Thank you mucho! I know this is a lot of work.

During the warm up, the water is sprayed from the inlet opening (the sort of dark brass thing in the middle of the back wall of the shot of the empty tank) up and over the load (think trickle down ecomonics) and pumped out as fast as it enters. You do have to be careful though about where you put that little detergent box because if the water pressure is high, it can flush some of your detergent away during the warm up like Robert showed with his video. I kept mine more to the front of the rack to avoid that.

Loading one of these is almost like loading a top loader washer. You can really stack stuff high. It holds far more than the 12 or 14 front-loading machines. I love being able to run it with part of the top rack removed. I do that thing with the lid open and pushing the start button to release the timer and turn it to the rinses and run one or two to really get things heated up and pre-rinsed. Then I restart it. If you put a folded towel on the lid, you muffle most of the noise since the tub walls are double to help with sound and heat insulation. You can always repeat the wash, minus the fill period, for really dirty things, by stopping it before it drains and turning the timer around, pressing the start button then advancing the timer out of the fill period. If you got the load properly warmed up, the water will stay hot in that double-walled tank for a 12 minute wash.



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