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Post# 502397   3/8/2011 at 11:49 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Got in this Frigidaire 1-18. Decided I fix it to have it's last wash before it gets crushed.




Post# 502398 , Reply# 1   3/8/2011 at 11:52 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Surprisingly it has metal outer tub! Minor water leak from pressure switch reservoir at outer drum.

Post# 502400 , Reply# 2   3/8/2011 at 11:53 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

nameplate

Post# 502402 , Reply# 3   3/8/2011 at 11:54 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Westinghouse motor is capacitor-start.

Post# 502403 , Reply# 4   3/8/2011 at 11:57 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Original belt soaked with transmission oil. Another is being used for last wash.

Post# 502404 , Reply# 5   3/8/2011 at 11:59 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Love the lint filter!

Post# 502409 , Reply# 6   3/8/2011 at 12:26 (4,768 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
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I didn't realize they actually called these "1-18" machines after the WCI acquisition? This thing looks abused!

 

-Tim


Post# 502418 , Reply# 7   3/8/2011 at 13:07 (4,768 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        
SAVE THAT WASHER!

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Aside from the cosmetic damage on the control panel, does it really not work? Why not just part it out????

It should have some historical value, if it's one of the first Frigidaire design-transitions from the General Motors-owned-to-the WCi-owned-era...

That is a pretty good agitator design, if not for the fact that the Frigidaire nameplate is on top of the inherited Penta-Flex design, and the basket lint filter sure beats the bed-of-nails trap it used before--and went back to! (I'll never forget cleaning my grandma's on the last visits to her house before she passed...)

I think that washer--cabinet, alone--should be kept away from "a crusher"...!!!!


-- Dave


Post# 502419 , Reply# 8   3/8/2011 at 13:12 (4,768 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
age

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When was it made?

Post# 502421 , Reply# 9   3/8/2011 at 13:15 (4,768 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
'79 westy

westinghouse machine from 1979-i'd keep it if it was in my possesion....
BTW does this one have the solenoid actuated idler pulley to allow a neutral
drain?-some had this,some didn't.


Post# 502424 , Reply# 10   3/8/2011 at 13:19 (4,768 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Krush it... Even that agitator sucks and it doesn't have the faux circle fill...

Post# 502428 , Reply# 11   3/8/2011 at 13:30 (4,768 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
keep it even if it means giving it to someone in need

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me i would say keep this classic its worth saving and you never know when a poor family might need a rebuild washer even if its an model from 1979 just think a lot of person lost everything and needs to rebuild so i am pretty sure that they would aprecate an old rebuild washing machine

Post# 502431 , Reply# 12   3/8/2011 at 13:43 (4,768 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Keep It Crush It...

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It's always nice to think of how we would like to save machines from a certain doom, but sometimes you have to realize that space is a big concern with many members including myself. I face this all the time when it comes to getting another appliance. I know that Melvin is hurting for space, and I would bet that if the machine were offered it would have no takers. Plus it's leaking oil and not a particularly "collectible" machine to begin with.

 

Not trying to be rude, just an honest point of view.

 

-Tim


Post# 502439 , Reply# 13   3/8/2011 at 14:41 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Tim's right, me hurting for space is an understatement. I do like this machine, and despite the bad rep it's gotten here, it does clean the clothes. I do like the indexing action, pretty cool! I'd say its done pretty good considering its age. Yes, I found it this way. Who ever had it decided to remove it using the console, and not bothering to unhook the hoses. If I had space, I'd keep it. Don't even get me started on problems giving away machines to good homes. I have to say the sound of the motor, and the pump on top of it look very attractive right now. If someone does want it, You better speak up quickly! I'd be willing to keep it for a short period, until you can come get it, or send a box to collect it. The more I Look at the Westinghouse motor, the more I get the itch to take it out!

Post# 502444 , Reply# 14   3/8/2011 at 14:55 (4,768 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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sorry but i will pass on this one could not even afford shipment and would not be able to use it in my statement i was reffering to other contrys like in hati where there was that big quake and most lost all they own

Post# 502448 , Reply# 15   3/8/2011 at 15:21 (4,768 days old) by DanManTN (Tennessee)        

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I might like to have that agitator and cap if you decide to crush it.  (if it doesn't have a stench)


Post# 502472 , Reply# 16   3/8/2011 at 17:01 (4,768 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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F R I G I S C A R E ! ! ! ! !


I'm surprised it's lasted this long!


Post# 502478 , Reply# 17   3/8/2011 at 17:28 (4,768 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
F R I G I S C A R E

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TRASH IT FAST! This does not even come close to a 1/18.
and this is not a 79. GM was still producing until the end of 1980. But this is one of the first wci models!


Post# 502479 , Reply# 18   3/8/2011 at 17:29 (4,768 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I wish I had the space and/or inclination to restore and collect washers. For reasons I can't fully explain, I have developed a soft spot in my heart for these 1st generation WCI-made Frigidaires, despite the tragic loss of the much-loved, high-quality GM-era washers.

It would be great if someone could adopt it or use it for parts, but it's definitely not a machine that's going to get much love here at AW.


Post# 502490 , Reply# 19   3/8/2011 at 17:55 (4,768 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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I am with Pete and Peter on this one if I were there I would help you push it into the crusher, I can't think of a single part I would save.


Post# 502505 , Reply# 20   3/8/2011 at 18:48 (4,768 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Yeah, if it has an oil leak, not worth saving.

Post# 502506 , Reply# 21   3/8/2011 at 18:51 (4,768 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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For the sake of posterity, I would suggest taking the transmission out, crack it open, and give us a show-and-tell on how it works -- specifically the why/how it indexes the tub...

A Jam-Handy educational production...


Post# 502511 , Reply# 22   3/8/2011 at 19:19 (4,768 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
early WCI"frigidaire"

great pics supremewhirlpol,lots of interesting details about the early
westinghouse WCI frigidaire-looks like the top and lid are porcelain,
late'79 dated round westy motor,console really close to GM 1-18,appears
to have fixed position idler pulley...
A local laundromat that opened in 1982 had a row of westy T/Ls,they seemed
to be pretty tough as they were still going last time i was there over 10yrs
later.(probably a few belt changes though LOL)


Post# 502537 , Reply# 23   3/8/2011 at 20:49 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Here is the video of the final spin.

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Post# 502538 , Reply# 24   3/8/2011 at 20:50 (4,768 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

Here is a video of final rinse. Think the laser diode is going bad in the Sony cam. No wash video.

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Post# 502539 , Reply# 25   3/8/2011 at 20:52 (4,768 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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And I've never been a fan of those indexing tubs...they make me dizzy!

Post# 502548 , Reply# 26   3/8/2011 at 21:17 (4,768 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Even if you wanted to

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These machines are absolutely impossible to repair, even if you had parts.  WCI glued the hoses to the pump and tub ports, used incompatible metals between the tub bolts and transmission, and did a thousand other things to make these utterly, insanely tough to work on.

 

Roger and I found one in mint shape, and wanted to take it apart to save bits and pieces when we were through playing.  Three sheared tub bolts later, we chucked the whole thing in the crusher.

 

If you find a minty one, they are fun to play with.  They should have been re-badged a "1-12," though, capacity-wise.  These lint-cartridge agitators are fun and splashy, but not as incredibly effective as the ramped Westinghouse design.


Post# 502662 , Reply# 27   3/9/2011 at 07:15 (4,767 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Nathan [ even if you wanted to ] Amen you got that right.

 

In all the years I have repaired washers there were only two repairs that we generally made on TL WH built washers. 1 was replacing a bad inlet valve and the other was replacing a bad belt other than these simple repairs I very seldom saw one worth repairing. Yes they did build throw away junk in the 1970s. I do actually remember once fixing one that wouldn't spin, the large bolt under the agitator that holds the tub hub to the spin tube had broken. I looked around this old basement where the machine was and found an old partly disassembled lawn mover and took one of the cylinder head bolts out of a Briggs&Stratton engine and it fit perfectly. That was one of very few that got fixed.


Post# 502710 , Reply# 28   3/9/2011 at 11:30 (4,767 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Appreciate the videos and the funny comments. Nice and light

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Like Nate and especially Eugene, I always find something to like--in any washer-- and although the spin looks labored and unconvincing, the agitation is brisk and engaging. With the upper fins (almost) ending in detached points, it reminds me of the Fisher & Paykel (can't spell it), and what a ride that is.

 

Wouldn't mind playing with it either, but Frigiscare it is! Like calling Wonder Bread Pepperidge Farm.

 

Thanks for the videos, Melvin. The pump is a good one, and I liked the way you rigged both inlets off the garden hose.


Post# 502727 , Reply# 29   3/9/2011 at 12:07 (4,767 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
This is!

What replaced the real Frigidaire...I Remember walking into W E Shaw Furniture Co and seeing this blasphemous thing brand new! I knew then ...at 15 years old...that every product in the world was on a downhill slide, cast this thing into OUTER DARKNESS where it belongs!

Post# 502881 , Reply# 30   3/9/2011 at 21:07 (4,767 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

PeterH770:
Since your question has not yet been answered, need to figure out whether or not the indexing is caused by either the water current movement from the agitator, the clothes moving against the basket, the result of load resistance on the transmission from the agitator, or dedicated mechanics for tub indexing in the transmission. We'll find out in a few videos...


Post# 502886 , Reply# 31   3/9/2011 at 21:14 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Indexing...

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If I remember correctly, inside the transmission is what they call a LGS spring that allows the tub to index in one direction and then cinches down and prevents indexing in the other direction. I've seen transmission failures where that spring fails and the tub just indexes back and forth. I'm sorry but I've never really cared for this machine. A pain to repair and always burning out the complicated lid latch assembly. If I'm lucky, I'll be shaving with it in a few weeks!

RCD



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