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Post# 502773   3/9/2011 at 15:17 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Go a chance to PLAY errrr... WORK wih my latest find. Actually, It's Dan's fault as he came up to visit and had to almost break my arm to 'force' me to... LOL! Anybody recognize this?




Post# 502776 , Reply# 1   3/9/2011 at 15:23 (4,767 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
I'm gonna guess

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Maytag AM or AMP?

Post# 502777 , Reply# 2   3/9/2011 at 15:23 (4,767 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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yup---it's a washing machine. LOL

Post# 502778 , Reply# 3   3/9/2011 at 15:26 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Another view. I thought I'd never get it to this point. The original complaint was 'it has a bad pump' since the previous owner couldn't get it to drain. Pump. Yeah, right! Since I'd never worked on an AMP before, this was a total learning experience. This washer holds water in the inner tub and then as it spins, the water spills over into the outer tub and into the pump. Problem. The washer wanted to agitate and SLOWLY spin at the same time during the spin/drain. The pump actually worked fine. (Now I have a NOS SPARE pump in the box...) I couldn't wrap my head around this. ARRRGGGHHH!



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Post# 502781 , Reply# 4   3/9/2011 at 15:29 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Then a shining light! AW to the rescue!

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Dan found the service manual that had been scanned and archived here! I hear rumors that Ben is the guilty party. If so, next time you pass thru Reno, dinner's on me!

Post# 502783 , Reply# 5   3/9/2011 at 15:54 (4,767 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Winner!

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Do I get the machine as a prize, since I gussed first?

Post# 502788 , Reply# 6   3/9/2011 at 16:07 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Take everything I learned about on old Maytag dependable care washers and toss it right out the window. I learned about the shifter and how it works. Then, I learned where it was and how to access it. Sure enough, after about 59 years, the shifter mechanism had the nerve to get all gummed up and not drop to properly shift from agitate to spin. After a loving dose of Zoom Spout thru a access in the side of the mechanism and a lot of (nervous) time spent, the shifter budged a hair. Finally, I was able to free it up and get full motion without having to completely tear the machine apart. YAY!

In the picture, you can see top center the squarish port and the frozen shifter. this is all the room I had to keep trying to break it free. I think Dan thought I had gotten electrocuted after shouting out when it FINALLY moved.


Post# 502790 , Reply# 7   3/9/2011 at 16:12 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
A lesson in wishfull thinking as it applies to Mark... LOL!

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Nice try... No, this one is firmly mine.

Another view of the solenoid powered arm that releases the tub brake and moves the shifter...


Post# 502791 , Reply# 8   3/9/2011 at 16:16 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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The wiring to the lid and water level mercury switches in the lid. This helped me run this with the cabinet off...



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Post# 502792 , Reply# 9   3/9/2011 at 16:22 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
The agitation is strong with this one...

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This really moves the water...

Post# 502793 , Reply# 10   3/9/2011 at 16:23 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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More 'agitation of death...'

Post# 502794 , Reply# 11   3/9/2011 at 16:24 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Actually...

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the proper term is 'Gyratation of death...'

Post# 502797 , Reply# 12   3/9/2011 at 16:31 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Still a thing or two to do. Actually hook up the water hoses and check the valve operation and deal with the fact that the timer is not advancing. I'll have a little video up and running in a little bit and will post it here.

If it wasn't for AW and the members here who share experience (and more importantly, MANUALS!), this might not have ended so well. My AMP and I thank you all!

RCD


Post# 502800 , Reply# 13   3/9/2011 at 16:38 (4,767 days old) by washernoob ()        

Oh my! The splash shots are just amazing. So soothing and clear.

And it looks sooooooooo good all around.


Post# 502817 , Reply# 14   3/9/2011 at 17:08 (4,767 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Looks good, Andrew!

Post# 502822 , Reply# 15   3/9/2011 at 17:43 (4,767 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Andrew that is one beautiful washer!!!
Great still water pictures... That Gyrator pushes water so far away from the shaft area it's Insane wow what a water mover.
Feel so good when other members help out.
You and Dan did a great Job !
Thanks for posting looking forward to your video.





Darren k


Post# 502825 , Reply# 16   3/9/2011 at 18:00 (4,767 days old) by autowasherfreak ()        

NICE!   Can't wait to see the video Smile


Post# 502826 , Reply# 17   3/9/2011 at 18:06 (4,767 days old) by spin-it ()        

Beautiful machine. Now I understand how the inner and outer spin tubs are connected. Great work and persistance

Post# 502872 , Reply# 18   3/9/2011 at 20:47 (4,767 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Yay Andrew, did you spin the water out with the cabinet off and get drenched? :-)

 

The machine is MINT for sure, and yes not having to tear apart an AMP is a good thing.  It does have really strong agitation, throw four pairs of dirty jeans in the machine and they with get a beating but they will be spotless when the cycle is over.

 

I'm surprised to see the white fill flume, I've never seen one that isn't black.  I wonder if it was replaced at some point?


Post# 502882 , Reply# 19   3/9/2011 at 21:08 (4,767 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Did I get wet during spinout? LOL!!!

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Well... I did toss some water... Thank goodness that 'faulty' pump removed water as fast as it did. Actually, the splashing didn't really occur until almost all the water had been removed. I shot video but had to stop the spin due to water wanting to splash over into the controls. It's really an interesting machine and not as intimidating once I got into it. That pump sure makes noise as it cavitates without water in it during wash but that's due to the single direction belt turn. The later models with the reversing direction made for quieter pump operation for sure.

RCD



Post# 502890 , Reply# 20   3/9/2011 at 21:29 (4,767 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
YAY ANDY!!!

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Hey Andy, CONGRATS on getting it working!! Your AMP sure is pretty! You are SO Lucky... I am jealous!

All the best to you!
Kevin


Post# 502892 , Reply# 21   3/9/2011 at 22:03 (4,767 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
That is a FASCINATING washer Andy!

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Best part of this is it looks in GREAT shape and you seem to have had fun repairing it thus far. I love playing with a machine with it largely taken apart like you did!

VERY COOL!

G


Post# 502954 , Reply# 22   3/10/2011 at 08:26 (4,767 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
AMP MT WASHER

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 Andy I am glad you got it working without a major teardown, when you called the other night trying to figure out what to do next when it wouldn't spin it brough back lots of memories. The very first washer my brothers and I rebuilt was a 1951 AMP this was in 1966 when I would have been about 14 years old. We did a total tear down to the last part and reassembled it and used it as the family machine for the next year or so for all six of us. Mom wasn't too trilled with its performance so my next big rebuild was a 1959 LK that a friend of moms got rid of for a new turquoise 1966 LKM pair. The MT was sold to a neighbor up the street with 4 or 5 kids and lasted about four more years to be replaced with a 1971 KM 70 W sudsaver which lasted at least 15 years. 

Who knows I might be the only one here that has done a total rebuild on an AMP, I have a 140S that needs major work, luckily I bought all the parts needed long ago when they were still avilable from MT. The 140S matches the MT water condenser that I have already restored.

 

We will all await the full sound and action videos of this neat piece of history, may be this will inspire me rebuild mine.


Post# 502958 , Reply# 23   3/10/2011 at 09:22 (4,767 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
Congrats!

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Woo Hoo, way to go! With Dependable Care machines being your bread and butter, wasn't it fun to dive into foreign territory for an afternoon?

Glad the service manual was of help. That is what I like about this group - being able to share information with the masses. I have no issue taking a few hours to scan a manual if it helps someone in the future. The AMP that came from Western Iowa last fall had a similar issue to yours. The trip lever is still a little sticky. I should remove and clean it to ensure proper fuction. You now know how important it is to do everything you possibly can before you put the cabinet back on, because you won't want to take it off again!

The only thing I haven't tore into on an AMP is removing the transmission from the outer tub. With 3 AMP drive machines in the basement at the moment, I'm sure I could fulfill the need to get transmission grease all over the floor in due time. :D

The white fill flume is so strange. The white version was used on the early AMP's, with it going to black sometime in 50/51. There was very little grease on the brake/clutch assembly in your photos. This machine didn't have much use.

Ben


Post# 502979 , Reply# 24   3/10/2011 at 10:51 (4,767 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Red and chrystal fury in the belly of the Gyrobeast ~ STUNNI

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Surprised

 

Just warmin' up here.


Post# 503107 , Reply# 25   3/10/2011 at 20:35 (4,766 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        

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I LOVE the sound of that pump! Reminds me of my Grandma's old 1962 Wards Signature machine...

Post# 503365 , Reply# 26   3/11/2011 at 18:29 (4,765 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

How does it keep from tossing water over the side when the cabinet is on? Does the top seal to the rim of the outer tub?

Post# 503426 , Reply# 27   3/11/2011 at 23:29 (4,765 days old) by mixfinder ()        
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I know your plate is full and I appreciate the time and effort you take to bring us such exciting clips.


Post# 503455 , Reply# 28   3/12/2011 at 05:49 (4,765 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Fantastic Drew.

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Love the sounds the AMP makes.

Brings back some memories of an AMP our neighbor had.


Post# 503456 , Reply# 29   3/12/2011 at 05:56 (4,765 days old) by spin-it ()        

I never realized the "throaty,gurgling sound" during wash was the pump. Our Norge time line did the same thing and I loved it. Did the later Maytags, 45s or 140s (not up on my MT history but I think these #'s are correct) also use the inner and outer spin tubs bolted together?

Post# 503600 , Reply# 30   3/12/2011 at 19:09 (4,764 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        

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Dave: The top of the cabinet does indeed sit down on the tub gasket like a GE does. During spin, the water does not really hit the gasket much but there is splash that the gasket contains.

Kevin: The AMP design is the only one that I'm aware of that Maytag made with two spin tubs attached together.

RCD



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