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Post# 506194 , Reply# 1 3/23/2011 at 16:59 (4,776 days old) by rp2813  (Sannazay) |
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 The KA experts should be showing up here to provide you with information.
There have been a few threads recently re: the 17 series. You might be able to find out more by plugging "KDI (or KDS) 17" into the "super searchilator" option.
KA didn't put an upper wash arm into their machines until the 18 series. That means you have to be careful about loading the lower rack in order to ensure that the spray action to the upper rack isn't blocked by large items. | ||
| Post# 506212 , Reply# 2 3/23/2011 at 18:34 (4,776 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Tricky Loading | ||
| Post# 506213 , Reply# 3 3/23/2011 at 18:38 (4,776 days old) by varicyclevoice (Davenport, Iowa) | ||
age of unit
Hey,
You have an excellent machine there! It is a KDI-17 which was made between 1971-1974. The Soak Cycle is a cycle for more heavily soiled dishes. It does in fact have a soak period. Keep in mind that the dishwasher NEVER completely fills. It will just circulate the wash water and then dwell for a bit to let the detergent work on the food soil before continuing the cycle. If you are interested in the use and care manual...I have one that I can scan for you and send digitally. Thanks. MrFrench70@aol.com Todd | ||
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Post# 506223 , Reply# 4 3/23/2011 at 19:18 (4,776 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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All cycles on this machine begin with a 1/2-fill (1 minute) and drain to clear the supply line of standing cold water.
Soak fills for the prewash, sprays a minute or two, then pauses for 13 minutes for the "soak" function. Continues with drain, prerinse, main wash, two rinses, dry.
Full Cycle is the same basic sequence as Soak, but continues to spray for 3 or 4 mins as a prewash instead of pausing for soak.
The 13-min Soak pause is enabled by a intermittent sequencer that pulses the timer on/off to lengthen what would otherwise be the prewash.
Rinse/Hold runs the line purge, fills for prewash, sprays a minute, pauses for 2 or 3 mins (during what would otherwise be either the prewash or the soak period), then drains. The timer advances to off in "real time" but no other functions occur. If desired, raise the handle and manually advance the timer to Off.
Note that the timer will (should) lock at Off after it makes a complete revolution. The handle must be raised to reset/unlock it to run another cycle.
Regarding the warning about items in the lower rack blocking spray to the top, that is true ... but with practice and care, one learns how to load shallow pans and baking dishes around the back and sides of the lower rack and still get good spray through to the top. | ||
| Post# 506230 , Reply# 5 3/23/2011 at 19:41 (4,776 days old) by cyclemonitor () | ||
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does this help 17 series 
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| Post# 506414 , Reply# 6 3/24/2011 at 10:13 (4,775 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago) | ||
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Thanks for the responses guys! | ||
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Post# 1178528 , Reply# 8 4/19/2023 at 17:08 (366 days old) by steved (Guilderland, New York) |
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| Post# 1178532 , Reply# 9 4/19/2023 at 17:26 (366 days old) by Davey7 (Chicago) | ||
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Thanks! That sounds like it would be a perfect fit. I'm going to do some electrical work at the box behind the dishwasher so when I pull it I'll see what clearances I have etc. | ||
| Post# 1178542 , Reply# 10 4/19/2023 at 20:23 (366 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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Dont worry about Only one wash arm, these absolutely will blast off anything on both racks and the dishes come out DRY! | ||
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Post# 1178571 , Reply# 12 4/20/2023 at 07:36 (365 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Insulation on the KDI 17 dishwasher
It’s a good idea to add as much insulation as you can. If you use the thin automotive stuff, put several layers on to get up to about 3/4 of an inch.
You can also get faced fiberglass insulation, possibly a water heater insulation kit often works well. Be careful with any insulation not to block the drying blower or insulate too close to it because it gets quite hot. Insulation will not only make the machine quieter, but will improve the washing performance and you may be able to lower your water temperature a little bit because the heat loss won’t be so fast , Show us pictures when you’re done, John | ||
| Post# 1178574 , Reply# 13 4/20/2023 at 08:53 (365 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
 I'm pretty sure all of these came with fiberglass insulation, someone must have removed it.
I wrapped all of my KDS-18 - KDS-20 machines with foil insulation on on the top, sides, and back of the tank in addition to the fiberglass insulation the factory had. I stapled it on the sides, back, and top of the dishwasher cavity as well. This cut sani heating times by more than half. Very much worth the time and effort. | ||
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Post# 1178581 , Reply# 14 4/20/2023 at 11:16 (365 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Kd 17 dws | ||
| Post# 1178592 , Reply# 15 4/20/2023 at 12:58 (365 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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Did not have any fiber glass insulation. | ||
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Post# 1178669 , Reply# 17 4/20/2023 at 22:07 (365 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area) |
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There may also be screws at the top front corners fastening it to the countertop. If the floor was installed after the dishwasher was in place, it may be necessary to remove that section of countertop first to be able to pull it out. That's what I had to do when I removed my old KDI-16. | ||
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Post# 1178776 , Reply# 18 4/22/2023 at 14:25 (363 days old) by jakeseacrest (Massachusetts) |
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