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Post# 510281   4/8/2011 at 16:30 (4,756 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

How old do you guys think this set is?
Is it difficult to find parts for them?
I'm guessing that they have solid not perforated tubs but the seller has not sent any tub photos. I have been looking for a new daily driver for a while. A matching set, no less!


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Post# 510302 , Reply# 1   4/8/2011 at 18:18 (4,756 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
solid tub

vintage solid tub-i'm guessing early 70s vintage,could be a real nice score!
probably old enough to have solenoid actuated spin instead of the reversing
motor(Ca.1975-80 solid tubs)


Post# 510303 , Reply# 2   4/8/2011 at 18:25 (4,756 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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roughly 71/73 were the last of the banging solenoids.....from there on reversing motor styles

Post# 510387 , Reply# 3   4/9/2011 at 05:58 (4,755 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Go for it,  the old solid tub SQ's are an urban myth around here. alr2903


Post# 510532 , Reply# 4   4/9/2011 at 22:51 (4,755 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Tomorrow I will check them out. I hope the dryer opens with a foot pedal. Seller says they still work so maybe we'll do a load.
After looking at ads from the 70's this pair might be from 1977 or later. The knobs are arranged differently than the earlier ones.
Did SQ ever make a suds saver?


Post# 510710 , Reply# 5   4/10/2011 at 18:59 (4,754 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yes they did

Post# 510763 , Reply# 6   4/11/2011 at 00:20 (4,754 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        
The Girls Are Home!

So, solid tub, the dryer drum is huge, the consoles light up (very cool!), a full range of wash selections Hooray! HW, HC, WW, WC, and CC! Alas, no foot pedal on the dryer.
Seller gave them away for $40. I almost feel guilty because even if they don't work I can part them out and come out ahead.
Washer Model ad 601w, have not checked dryer yet. I can't find any info on this model. It's a Speed Queen from Canada, the tag is torn but probably made in the US. Tomorrow I will inspect them further.


Post# 510776 , Reply# 7   4/11/2011 at 02:54 (4,754 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        
congragulations

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pics plz

Post# 510832 , Reply# 8   4/11/2011 at 13:17 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Front view

Post# 510835 , Reply# 9   4/11/2011 at 13:23 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Decisions, decisions! HW, Normal Fast, 14min wash or any variation thereof!

Post# 510836 , Reply# 10   4/11/2011 at 13:25 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

tub

Post# 510838 , Reply# 11   4/11/2011 at 13:29 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Dryer

Post# 510857 , Reply# 12   4/11/2011 at 15:58 (4,753 days old) by lebron (Minnesota)        

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Very very very nice looking machines. Few things can compare to the wash action of these old queens. How did the water level switch work? Were these still timed fill?

Post# 510871 , Reply# 13   4/11/2011 at 17:10 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        
Thank you!

They are home but not tucked in yet, I have yet to unload them. Winds were 40mph gusts today so I don't want to fight the wind. The yard is still soft but with any luck it might dry a little more and I can back the truck right up to the laundry porch and unload straight across with a ramp thus eliminating the off the truck up the stairs ordeal.
Have not had a chance to try them out. Seller could not hook them up. Every time I talked to them, not even negotiating, they kept knocking $20 off. Finally I just gave them $40 for the pair and ran. Had I stayed longer they might have been paying me!
Border guards thought I was nuts. "You went to Toronto for what?! Have anything else to declare?"
"Yes, a matching dryer!" (Big toothy grin.)
Guard rolled his eyes and waved me through.


Post# 510885 , Reply# 14   4/11/2011 at 18:32 (4,753 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Water Level

There is a small reservoir on the back of the tub.  As the washer fills a small amount is diverted into the reservoir starting the motor when it reaches the desired level.  There is no way to fill the tub manually and run the washer because the reservoir must have it's portion.


Post# 510923 , Reply# 15   4/11/2011 at 20:22 (4,753 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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OMG, you have the TOL models there!!!  WOW!!!  Pea green with envy!!!


Post# 510947 , Reply# 16   4/11/2011 at 21:25 (4,753 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Looks like they have a console light as well!!!


Post# 510948 , Reply# 17   4/11/2011 at 21:29 (4,753 days old) by qsd-dan (West)        

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Wow, these don't pop up often. Congrats!

Post# 510952 , Reply# 18   4/11/2011 at 21:41 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        
Old or Older

I have a vague idea how old they are but I can't find any info at all. Any guesses?
Mixfinder, good to know about the reservoir. I'll have to hook up the hose and test it before I drag it into the laundry room.


Post# 510955 , Reply# 19   4/11/2011 at 21:54 (4,753 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I am guessing, mid 70's, somewhere in the model year change, the knobs aren't all the same, on either model, the timer knob style on the washer tells me 76 to 79, but the watertemp/speed/level knobs tell me 70 to 75....and theres a mix on the dryer too!

but who cares......freakin beautiful.....wait until you see it fill.....I love the bubble/aireated fill, these might be reversing motor design.......you have to do a video

what the hell is there not to love about the whole set.....laundry room?......clutch the pearls.....these should be displayed proudly in the kitchen, if not in the living room in front of the TV.....and with lighted panels, D A Y U M ! ! !


Post# 510959 , Reply# 20   4/11/2011 at 22:23 (4,753 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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We expect full videos! Especially with the light!

Post# 510964 , Reply# 21   4/11/2011 at 22:43 (4,753 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        
Well, They Are Not Pink

So they won't match my 50's stove with pink metal trim but they make the $50 Roper look like the clodhopper it is. The only reason it was allowed in was because it was cheaper than a laundromat while I searched for the girls.
Lighted consoles, sigh. I know...aren't they just dreamy? And all the bells and whistles, too. Any setting, any temp, any level, any time. Perfect for someone with an authority complex. Just looking at the new washers in the showrooms was making me mad. How dare they tell me how much water and regulate how hot it could be! The nerve! And no peeking or error codes! Blah. I'll do laundry my way thank you very much.


Post# 510966 , Reply# 22   4/11/2011 at 23:31 (4,753 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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I've often wondered if the ribbed design on my SQ fab softener is a nod to the agitator design on your machine...even if it's not, I'll pretend it is...lol.

Post# 510999 , Reply# 23   4/12/2011 at 08:19 (4,752 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Wow Dan........I didn't even notice until you said that about the rib similarities....

Post# 511014 , Reply# 24   4/12/2011 at 10:13 (4,752 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
WOW!

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Man these are NICE!  Who wouldn't cross borders for a set like this? 

 

I could PUKE from jealousy!

 

Malcolm


Post# 511152 , Reply# 25   4/12/2011 at 22:35 (4,752 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Is a SQ fab softener the dispenser that sits on the agitator?
My kids helped me with the video camera today but its not a very good picture. By the end of the week I hope to have the girls installed and upload a video.


Post# 511189 , Reply# 26   4/13/2011 at 00:55 (4,752 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Certainly a vintage set I would buy, too! I thought S/Q's had a timed-fill, myself...

It seems to have everything feature-wise,though...


-- Dave


Post# 511224 , Reply# 27   4/13/2011 at 07:23 (4,751 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        
Timed Fill

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Earlier SQ's had a timed fill. I always had to set mine on med. or low fill to get a full tub of water. When your water pressure is higher you have to set for lower fill or you would wash all your soap away.

Post# 511335 , Reply# 28   4/13/2011 at 17:44 (4,751 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        
Girls Need TLC

Well, I think the washer needs a new belt. Smells like it and it quit agitating during the test run. No spin or drain. Off to remove the panels to check it out. Hopefully that's all it is.

Post# 511339 , Reply# 29   4/13/2011 at 18:02 (4,751 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
SQ SOLID TUB WASHER

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The front panel comes off just remove the four screws at the bottom, your washer has three belts, keep us posted.


Post# 511343 , Reply# 30   4/13/2011 at 18:19 (4,751 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Now I'm not sure. The front belt turns, the one above does not and I did not see the third belt. I'll get the flashlight and check after dinner. It 'whirs' like it wants to go, but only the front belt does anything.

Post# 511352 , Reply# 31   4/13/2011 at 19:01 (4,751 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
belts

looks like the lower belt drives the pump while the 2nd,upper groove on the
pump's pulley has a belt that drives the transmission for agitation.
the 3rd belt (on the fluid clutch) only runs when the motor reverses for
spin.Seems that a belt is loose or oily and is slipping.


Post# 511360 , Reply# 32   4/13/2011 at 20:59 (4,751 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Speed Queen pump

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That happens to be the same pump in my Speed Queen Wringer from the 50's, who'd a thunk it! Easy to find on Ebay, if you ever needs to.

Post# 511362 , Reply# 33   4/13/2011 at 21:23 (4,751 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Would that make it smoke?
Also, where does one find parts for these machines? Need a tub seal; it drips water from under the agitator. Not bad yet but it won't get better. I have been searching online but have found no parts, diagrams, schematics or manuals. Absolutely zero matches for this model #ad 601w. Were Canadian model numbers unique to Canada?
The pump seems to work, it pumped out the rest the tub. The agitator moves easily so maybe the tranny is still good. My Amana locked up when the tranny went bad.
Tomorrow in the sunshine I will look for part numbers to see what we find. Is Ebay the place to look for parts?


Post# 511369 , Reply# 34   4/13/2011 at 22:03 (4,751 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for parts....www.easyapplianceparts.com........

they may not have all, but they did have a few parts for my SQ.....and their in Canada

if your model number does not work, or shows NLA or limited parts, let me know, I'll look up my model number for you.....underneath their all built the same....either banging solenoids or reversing motor


Post# 511371 , Reply# 35   4/13/2011 at 22:07 (4,751 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        

slipping belt could cause smoke or odor-is the big pulley on the transmission
turning?Mechanism appears to be the same as the u.s. version-with basic
origins dating to the 1950s if not earlier, this mechanism lasted through the
last solid tub SQs around 1980.
I have never looked for new parts for solid tub speed queens,but people here
should know of some good sources


Post# 511403 , Reply# 36   4/14/2011 at 04:33 (4,750 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Pump

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You can loosen the pump to adjust belt tension between the pump and the transmission. Might be all it needs to get her running through the cycle again.

Malcolm


Post# 511413 , Reply# 37   4/14/2011 at 07:02 (4,750 days old) by magic clean ()        
Try American

model DA6191

Post# 511563 , Reply# 38   4/14/2011 at 22:42 (4,750 days old) by klinkerqueen (USA)        

Thanks Magic Clean, many more parts and the diagrams look right.
The motor smokes a little. A friend and I looked at it today. He is an electrician and thinks that it should be fine, it may have been sitting a while. It does not smokes now and the motor is not hot after running through a couple of cycles. Have not tried it on gentle after the initial test but normal/fast works great.
There is a sticker on the drain tub stamped 1970, the other sticker states fill time determined by pressure.
Cfz, you are right about the belts. Definitely a reversing motor. The insides are much different than my 'old' washer (ca2003, haha).
Will work on video this weekend.


Post# 511565 , Reply# 39   4/14/2011 at 22:57 (4,750 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
smoking motor

the motor should never smoke-probably the centrifugal switch was stiff from
sitting unused for a while and did not disengage the start winding,causing
the smoke-this problem would be more likely to occur on low speed,if the
smoke was seen on low speed i would only use high speed for a while until
there has been enough use to free up the sticky centrifugal mechanism in the
motor.



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