Thread Number: 34055
A slice of Roto Racking, Green Colored Portable Dishwasher Goodness! |
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Post# 511534   4/14/2011 at 21:30 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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I have discovered a new haunt to check. The Habitat For Humanity Store. An Interesting collection of all sorts of things. As I was looking around, I heard two people talking about a 'Old piece of junk dishwasher' that they were thinking of buying to take it apart for the power cord reel and casters. Hmmmm... I decided to go look for myself (rather quickly) and saw a collection of misc. appliances donated from other jobs. And right there in the middle was this little one. I couldn't resist and paid a few bucks and hauled it away from the vultures.
A shaded green portable Sears dishwasher. It looked rather high end for it's time. Model: 587.71360 Serial: 422420268 |
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Post# 511535 , Reply# 1   4/14/2011 at 21:33 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511536 , Reply# 2   4/14/2011 at 21:34 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511537 , Reply# 3   4/14/2011 at 21:35 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511538 , Reply# 4   4/14/2011 at 21:36 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511540 , Reply# 5   4/14/2011 at 21:37 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511541 , Reply# 6   4/14/2011 at 21:38 (4,731 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 511542 , Reply# 7   4/14/2011 at 21:39 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511543 , Reply# 8   4/14/2011 at 21:40 (4,731 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 511544 , Reply# 9   4/14/2011 at 21:40 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511545 , Reply# 10   4/14/2011 at 21:42 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511547 , Reply# 11   4/14/2011 at 21:43 (4,731 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 511548 , Reply# 12   4/14/2011 at 21:45 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511549 , Reply# 13   4/14/2011 at 21:46 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511550 , Reply# 14   4/14/2011 at 21:46 (4,731 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)   |   | |
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Post# 511551 , Reply# 15   4/14/2011 at 21:47 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511552 , Reply# 16   4/14/2011 at 21:55 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Actually, quite well and remarkably quiet. It really tosses the water around and drains quickly. The down side is that there is a leak from underneath on the right hand side. It is NOT coming from the motor or seals. I suspect either a hose from the pump that supplies water to the upper arm jets or a air gap that's mounted right about where the leak comes from. It should be correctable.
The reason for all the pictures is that this little one is looking for a loving home. My collection's focus is elsewhere but I could not stand to see it gutted while still in great shape. Soooo, SPEAK UP! Anybody want this little slice of green colored, Roto-Racking Portable dishwasher goodness? RCD |
Post# 511553 , Reply# 17   4/14/2011 at 22:04 (4,731 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Andrew, that is just beautiful! Those blue racks just take your breath away. Don't think I've seen a model with the cutlery basket on the side. Very good rescue story too, the Habitat store here has some good stuff once in a while, but I doubt something like this would ever make it past the loading dock. |
Post# 511554 , Reply# 18   4/14/2011 at 22:05 (4,731 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 511556 , Reply# 19   4/14/2011 at 22:10 (4,731 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 511557 , Reply# 20   4/14/2011 at 22:14 (4,731 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 511558 , Reply# 21   4/14/2011 at 22:16 (4,731 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 511561 , Reply# 22   4/14/2011 at 22:27 (4,731 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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What an awesome find! Great save! Are you going to use it? Thanks for the pictures. Brent |
Post# 511564 , Reply# 23   4/14/2011 at 22:44 (4,731 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 511569 , Reply# 24   4/14/2011 at 23:10 (4,731 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 511572 , Reply# 25   4/14/2011 at 23:25 (4,731 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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I could be off on this, but I think the Mod # is somewhat like the Km washing machines of that era, ie 587. "71" 360 suggests that it was either manufactured in 1971 , or at least intended to be available for that years offering. |
Post# 511574 , Reply# 26   4/14/2011 at 23:28 (4,731 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 511575 , Reply# 27   4/14/2011 at 23:29 (4,731 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Peter, I've seen something similar on a couple of other D&M dishwashers of this era. If you will notice, there is no Rinse & Hold. One of those cycles doesn't include a heated dry and the other one does. It's like one cycle does the sequence WRR. The otherr one does the typical "light wash" of RWRR dry. |
Post# 511576 , Reply# 28   4/14/2011 at 23:30 (4,731 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)   |   | |
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By the way Drew, that is quite fabulous!! So glad you were able to save it from foolish donor duty. Those racks look brand new. |
Post# 511584 , Reply# 29   4/15/2011 at 00:35 (4,731 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 511587 , Reply# 30   4/15/2011 at 01:40 (4,731 days old) by AutowasherFreak ()   |   | |
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Someone must have taken good care of it, or didn't use it much. NICE! If you were closer, I would love to give her a new home. |
Post# 511589 , Reply# 31   4/15/2011 at 01:44 (4,731 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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This looks very similar to a dishwasher my parents had lying around, left by some previous occupant of our house. I can only remember one time it was ever used. My mother didn't like dishwashers because "they break dishes."
I can't say the one pictured here is 100% the same, but, if not, it's very close. My immediate reaction opening this thread was, "I've seen that one before!" I can barely remember reading the manual for ours. It seems to me that the manual covered 4 portable dishwashers. Ours was the second from the top, only bettered by the Lady Kenmore. I can't remember what differences there were. It seems to me the LK had no exposed timer dial. At least one of the lower models lost the Roto Rack. |
Post# 511593 , Reply# 32   4/15/2011 at 05:10 (4,731 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 511598 , Reply# 33   4/15/2011 at 05:51 (4,731 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)   |   | |
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Has it ever been used? It looks to be in brand new condition. Fantastic find. Jerry Gay |
Post# 511600 , Reply# 34   4/15/2011 at 06:04 (4,731 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI )   |   | |
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Post# 511604 , Reply# 35   4/15/2011 at 07:08 (4,731 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)   |   | |
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Post# 511607 , Reply# 36   4/15/2011 at 07:28 (4,731 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 511630 , Reply# 38   4/15/2011 at 10:28 (4,731 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 511633 , Reply# 39   4/15/2011 at 10:43 (4,731 days old) by westingman123 ()   |   | |
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Purty. |
Post# 511640 , Reply# 40   4/15/2011 at 12:01 (4,731 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 511829 , Reply# 41   4/16/2011 at 17:09 (4,729 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Great find I would have to agree that this machine was unused [ it is really the only a D & M machine could have lasted this long ]. This is a 1967 model that was manufactured February of 1968, the last four digits of the serial # on most D&M machines are the manufacturing date.
I had a similar good find this week, I stopped by an old house where they were cleaning out to have an estate sale and they had hauled all the appliances out in the yard for trash pickup. And sitting there was a slightly dirty older WP portable DW. I started looking at it and noticed that the real maple top looked awfully good, the guys working there said to just take the machine so my helper and I carted it off and loaded it in the back of the box truck. I didn't want it to roll around inn the back of the truck so I layed it on its side on some cardboard. When I examined the machine from underneath it was flawless, and when we got done with our appliance deliveries for the day and went back to the warehouse I starting unpacking all the SS cookware that the old couple had stored inside he machine. This is when I found out that the machine had never been used, it still had all the rinse aid samples instructions and coupons for free boxes of detergent. The model # is SSP 90 it is next to the TOL machine I will try to take some pictures of it and post.
This WP DW like the D&M machine was not a highly durable DW and the only reason that it is still around is that it was not used. The WP machine is much better engineered and would do a better job cleaning and drying dishes, but these suffered having an all pot-metal pump which led to an early major repair. WP did come out with an all Bakealite replacement pump assembly that lasted much longer. |
Post# 511832 , Reply# 42   4/16/2011 at 17:31 (4,729 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 511840 , Reply# 43   4/16/2011 at 19:12 (4,729 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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The earlier machines before 1967 were a little better in several ways but trying to use such an old machine as a daily driver will always add extra challenges. That said if you really want a roto-rack machine the best bet is to find a seldom or never used machine. This way you may be more likely to get 6-12 years of fairly trouble use out of it. See if you can get this one that Drew has, one like this would give you the best shot of being useful over the longest period of time. |
Post# 511860 , Reply# 45   4/16/2011 at 21:59 (4,729 days old) by rollermatic (cincinnati)   |   | |
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love the color of the racks, love the lighted control panel buttons, that is one fine lookin machine!!!
gonna check into the habitat for humanity stores here in cinti. dayton. and columbus. i have seen you guys get some real gems there! i see your's has the older style lower spray arm that i really love, with the raised water jets instead of simply drilling holes like the newer one's have. and you have the older style top spray tube also.! again my fav! my top loader has that style tube and arm also but my front loader has the new boring style tube and lower spray arm! the old tubes were black, the newer style are white. but the kelvinator i am rebuilding at the moment has old type lower spray arm as well. as always i prefer the old 60's style as that is what i remember when i used to spend hours looking at sears appliances in both the stores and catalogs. the kelvinator is a D&M so it's just like a sears but without a rotorack. enjoy your beautiful machine!! thank God you found it!!! |
Post# 511861 , Reply# 46   4/16/2011 at 22:23 (4,729 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)   |   | |
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Post# 511868 , Reply# 47   4/16/2011 at 23:42 (4,729 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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My parents installed a D/W just like the one above in the late 60's or 1970. By 1984 it had flooded the kitchen twice and caused a rain storm in the laundry room below. My Mother said, "I've had enough. That damn thing's goin." She made a comment on what she should get and I told her, "KichenAid Superba. You won't regret it."
A few days later she and my Dad showed up with a KDS-20, crated, in the back of the truck. I helped him install it and it was still there running 20+ years later, when I took it out and replaced it with another low milage KDS-20. It will out last them and maybe me. Timeless beauty and style. Not to rain on your parade, Drew. |
Post# 511870 , Reply# 48   4/16/2011 at 23:58 (4,729 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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Post# 511876 , Reply# 49   4/17/2011 at 00:37 (4,729 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 511920 , Reply# 50   4/17/2011 at 10:29 (4,729 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)   |   | |
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Post# 511944 , Reply# 52   4/17/2011 at 12:36 (4,729 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 511974 , Reply# 53   4/17/2011 at 16:09 (4,728 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 512114 , Reply# 54   4/18/2011 at 06:55 (4,728 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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Post# 512246 , Reply# 55   4/18/2011 at 22:29 (4,727 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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This was fairly common in my experience, especially since some had an annoying habit of the wash arm sticking in a particular position. I loved our Magic Chef derivative of the D&M design, but a few times when we ran the dishwasher and wandered off, we returned to a puddle on the floor. The stuck wash arm would force a lot of water at key points in the door that weren't meant to deal with the drenching. Usually the addition of a flat washer under the arm or between the arm and the nut helped fix it (or you could replace the little fiber washer that was there).
My grandmother's D&M leaked from the corners of the door until it was run for a bit and the door gasket rearranged itself a bit. Go figure.
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Post# 512264 , Reply# 56   4/19/2011 at 00:07 (4,727 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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When the family who had a later all-pushbutton Lady Kenmore Roto-Rack d/w moved out, the family who moved in experience flooding from it, too--The First Time they Turned It On!!!!
It otherwise gave good service (until mother passed away, then the house, including all the kitchen appliances were sold!)... Neat dishwasher & one that I have never seen! Only the later Piano Key L/K model, the white one owned by the fam' across the street & one owned by a relative of ours who also had a wide-coil Frigidaire electric range & a GE-built Philco fridge--all in copper! -- Dave |
Post# 512539 , Reply# 57   4/20/2011 at 02:38 (4,726 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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We didn't have a puddle, we had a lake. The water valve stuck open and the float didn't shut it off. Luckily we were home both times, but by the time we got it stopped, half the kitchen was flooded and the room in the basement below too.
I was sitting at the kitchen counter, reading and I looked up and saw this giant black half circle shape creeping toward me. I yelled, "Mom, the Dishwasher's running over!" She yelled, "Turn it off!", and came running. We opened the door and it still kept running. She said, "Go downstairs and turn the water off, quick! Then she came downstairs and looked around the corner and saw the rain in the laundry room. She was hot. We had quite a time cleaning up water in the house that night. I'll never forget that water creeping across the kitchen carpet toward me. The carpet made it look black. It looked like "The Blob". Then sometime later it did it again! That was the straw that broke the camels back. Kenmore had to go. What a trip. LOL. |
Post# 512573 , Reply# 58   4/20/2011 at 08:05 (4,726 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Unfortunately any DW, washing machine or ice maker that is connected to your pressurized house water system can and will flood when the inlet valve mechanically sticks open. If this ever happens to you unplug or turn off the appliance first and if the water keeps flowing you have a stuck valve. [ turn off the water quickly ]. If this happens to you on a modern appliance REPLACE THE VALVE do not fool with trying to clean it out or other wise fix it unless a repeat flood is not a big concern to you. Stuck inlet valves used to be much more common a problem in the 50s through the 70s than it is now. However we have seen a large # of WP built tall tub DWs 2000 on with stuck inlet valves, I would be careful if you have one of these machines that is over 5 years old about letting it run unattended.
The main problem with D&M DWs were water leaks around and under the door. Many D&Ms were so chronic with this problem that when my brother and I started the business we would not even take calls on D&M machines if the complaint was leaks. The machine was so badly built that you could change door gaskets, vent plates and door latches all day long and they would still leak at times. They are an interesting part of appliance history but I would never install one in my home [ our 1966 one was enough ] LOL. |
Post# 512726 , Reply# 60   4/20/2011 at 23:58 (4,725 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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Post# 512727 , Reply# 61   4/20/2011 at 23:59 (4,725 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)   |   | |
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