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Post# 512249   4/18/2011 at 22:55 (4,754 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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Sears finally delivered my washer and dryer today. It only took them 41 years. I guess the order was lost.

Ok, John found these for me a while ago in one of his hunting trips and we finally got them restored. Both the washer and dryer were ALL original, including the belts.

The washer got a new spin tube, clutch, inlet valve, seals, side check valve, belt, lint filter and rebuilt pump.

The dryer got new bulkhead and blower housing seals, belt and a front drum seal. John and I also put in a true Soft Heat dual heating element and added the thermal fuse and thermal cut off.






Post# 512250 , Reply# 1   4/18/2011 at 22:55 (4,754 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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the dryer

Post# 512251 , Reply# 2   4/18/2011 at 22:56 (4,754 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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lights....

Post# 512252 , Reply# 3   4/18/2011 at 22:57 (4,754 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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more lights....

Post# 512253 , Reply# 4   4/18/2011 at 22:57 (4,754 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
WAIT............

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Something isn't quite right under here......

Post# 512254 , Reply# 5   4/18/2011 at 23:00 (4,754 days old) by A440 ()        
Oh Yes They Did Deliver!

What an awesome PAIR! 

FABULOUS! 

THEY LOOK MINT!

Brent


Post# 512262 , Reply# 6   4/19/2011 at 00:03 (4,754 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Exactly the set my friend had--only the pilot light on the washer didn't seem to light up the timer dial & the dryer dial did not light up at all--& the dryer light must have been not worth the bothre of changing as I've never seen the interior lit--though it was unreliable & they often had to go in underneath & behind it to do several repairs & do their drying at a laundromat next to my friend's father's business; the kickplate for the dryer was laying in the backyard too...

A few years after I'd stopped seeing him there was a Kenmore dryer box in the front yard (& I would guess around the same time the washer gave out, too, as years later when we'd gotten together again at his house I saw a newer, matching almond K/M set...)


-- Dave


Post# 512286 , Reply# 7   4/19/2011 at 04:02 (4,754 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Beautiful Set

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I've never seen that design before. Very Cool.

Post# 512296 , Reply# 8   4/19/2011 at 05:22 (4,754 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jason, the funky beautiful style that wasn't around for very long.  I love these.  Have never seen these upclose. 

 

So, what's not right under the lid--a Vari-Flex agitator like on a LK?

 

Explain what the difference between what you meant by you & John putting in "a true SoftHeat" heating elements and ... vs. what was the standard SoftHeat fare for this model?  I"m surprised it didn't have elctronic sensor in this model.  There may have been one which did have that and was cosmetically the same.  Bet Gordon culd tell me.


Post# 512308 , Reply# 9   4/19/2011 at 07:14 (4,754 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Ohhh beautiful set Jason, hmmm could the capacity of washer have increased as if by magic?  ***folds arms, blinks***Cool


Post# 512309 , Reply# 10   4/19/2011 at 07:28 (4,754 days old) by kenmore700bill (Lodi NJ)        

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Jason,
My parents rented a Summer home 2 weeks a year in South Jersey one of them that they rented had this exact Washer outside in shed attached to house and only cold water running into the washer. Was a real workhorse and I am sure took alot of abuse from renters.
Bill


Post# 512310 , Reply# 11   4/19/2011 at 07:39 (4,754 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Wow!

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That is the washing machine of my earliest memories! I could hear the wig-wag engaging just looking at the picture. My mother purchased that model with her severence pay on the eve of my birth! (This was back in those dark days when a woman lost her job when she had a baby.) In the reasearch that I have done, I have concluded that that model was only produced during the 1970 model year.
When can we see into the tub???


Post# 512312 , Reply# 12   4/19/2011 at 07:45 (4,754 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)        

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What a beautiful set! Many happy loads of laundry!! These are in remarkable condition - congrats!

Post# 512325 , Reply# 13   4/19/2011 at 08:51 (4,754 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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I almost don't care what's under the lid; those backsplashes are works of art. You all know I'm a sucker for a back-lit dial.

 

OK, I do care what's under the lid now that I know that Jeannie and John have done something. Can't wait to see the dispensers, agitator and tubs. Is it too much to hope that the dryer is gas? Gaw-geuss pair.

 

It amazes me how much work Sears must have done every year to produce new models with new agitators, bells and whistles and new backsplashes. Were the TOL's all loss-leaders?


Post# 512334 , Reply# 14   4/19/2011 at 09:23 (4,754 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Kenmore!

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Jason,
Absolutly beautiful set. Best Of Luck with them.
Peter


Post# 512336 , Reply# 15   4/19/2011 at 09:31 (4,754 days old) by cycla-fabric (New Jersey (Northern))        

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That's a nice looking Kenmore set you have there, will be interesting to see what's under the hood. Looking at the dryer controls, it's strange that the more dry is on the right and less dry is on the left of the control, just the reverse of what is on all other Kenmore dryers. I guess this timer moves in the same direction as the washer timer. You didn't see that on mnay kenmores.

Doug


Post# 512338 , Reply# 16   4/19/2011 at 09:44 (4,754 days old) by DanManTN (Tennessee)        

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Wow.  Just wow.  


Post# 512344 , Reply# 17   4/19/2011 at 10:26 (4,754 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Kenmore control panel originality

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Where DO they come from?

 

Jason, that's the coolest KM I've ever seen.

 

Bet ya won't be doin' too many F loads, delicate, lingerie LOL

 

That sunset light and the red dot--have me crazy! You'll have these babes forever.

 

Okay now, Mister Tease, what's under the hood?

 


Post# 512394 , Reply# 18   4/19/2011 at 16:29 (4,753 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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I think what's under the washing machine lid is that the agitator is a "ramped" model used on the newer K/M washers...

CONSUMER REPORTS cited that agi' design gave "Slightly Below-Average Washing Ability"--ironic considering that Sears washers were made by Whirlpool & W/P's Surgilator agi's prefomrnace was "Slightly ABOVE-Average" in CR...

We did a load of my friend's family's clothes in that very washer & dryer one night at his house! (Although they didn't take much advantage of all those wash cycles as everything was loaded in the washer & turned to "A"), while dried on a timed cycle (not taking advantage of the multitudinous option on the dryer, either...) "SEARS BEST", eh?

I'd asked my friend if "the agitator was a "ramp" or a "blade" & unfortunately he said "Blaid!"... Bbbbbbbzzzzzzzz!!!!! Wrong answer...

(Just guessing)


-- Dave


Post# 512397 , Reply# 19   4/19/2011 at 16:43 (4,753 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        

I just wonder if this machine has one of those rare 18LB baskets, along with the BIG ramped agitator.

Post# 512404 , Reply# 20   4/19/2011 at 17:20 (4,753 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I'm sure it has been super-sized, but which agitator. Hope it isn't that horrible Dual Action Maytag Power Fin knock off monstrosity...

Post# 512406 , Reply# 21   4/19/2011 at 17:47 (4,753 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Jason, that's an amazing pair! The face on the control dial is huge.  How long before we get to find out "what's not quite right" in there?!  Congrats, and I'd definitely call and complain to Sears about the delay, LOL.


Post# 512420 , Reply# 22   4/19/2011 at 19:07 (4,753 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        

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I hope it does have the Vari-Flex agitator. I think the Vari-Flex is too underrated and doesn't get as much recognition like it should for being the most versatile agitator designed. I've seen them turn over huge loads effectively and gently.

Post# 512427 , Reply# 23   4/19/2011 at 19:26 (4,753 days old) by magic clean ()        
This is the

Fairgates Kenmore pair from Knots Landing. Play the video until the 28 seconds for a laundry room view with Sid.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO magic clean's LINK


Post# 512428 , Reply# 24   4/19/2011 at 19:28 (4,753 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I've decided its going to be a direct drive under there, and a solid basket one at that ;-)


Post# 512429 , Reply# 25   4/19/2011 at 19:30 (4,753 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Tub size...

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The magic tub bigerizer was not used on this machine. I already have one machine that was bigerized and these are in far too nice of a condition to go changing things like that.


Can you believe I actually have a machine that is mostly unmodified? I know I can't


Post# 512431 , Reply# 26   4/19/2011 at 19:33 (4,753 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Under the lid....

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I'm not revealing anything just yet. Hopefully I will have time this weekend to put a light on the subject. Until then.....keep guessing.

Post# 512438 , Reply# 27   4/19/2011 at 19:40 (4,753 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Oh Robert.....

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You weren't supposed to say anything!

Post# 512439 , Reply# 28   4/19/2011 at 19:42 (4,753 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
SOFT HEAT DRYER

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Soft Heat was introduced on higher end KM dryers with the 1963 models. On the electric dryers they used two heating elements, one was 3600 watts and the 2nd was 2000 watts this was on the dryers with the perforated revolving drum back, then when they changed to the solid rear bulkhead dryer drums the wattage's were 4100Ws and 1500Ws both designs total 5600 watts. With this design when a load was started both elements were on full blast, but when the exhaust reached around 135 degrees the larger element would shut off. This would normally occur when the majority of the moisture in the clothes load was gone, the smaller element would stay on the the entire heating portion of the drying cycle. If there was still much moisture left in the clothes the small element would not be enough heat to maintain and the large element would cycle back on to speed drying the drying along. But if the clothing was nearly dry the small element would be enough to maintain the exhaust temperature and no big blast of heat would be needed to finish the drying operation. This system was not only more gentle but was also faster as the heat was never completely off as in every other dryer on the market.

 

The gas Soft Heat system was even more exciting as it had an electrically ignited modulating gas burner. The older style dryer drum used a full 37,000 BTU burner and the later style  solid bulkhead drum used a 25,000 BTU burner. On these gas models the burner would light at the start of the drying cycle and the flame would not go off at all, but instead would gradually taper down in response to a temperature sensor mounted in the exhaust housing. This is just like when you make a large pot of soup on the stove top of your stove, you start with full heat to get it boiling but you keep turning the heat down as it gets going. These were the only gas dryers ever made for the home that had such an advanced system of heat control.

 

But back to Jasons dryer. Sears cheapened the Soft Heat system around 1970-71 [ I don't know the exact year and model maybe Gordon can fill us in on this ]. Jasons dryer says Soft Heat on the console just like most high end KM dryers of the day, but it has just a single 5600 watt element and a single exhaust thermostat. I really don't know how they justified calling it a Soft Heat dryer. So Jason rewired it to use the real dual element system with a 4100W and a 1500W dual element. He also added a heater box and an exhaust housing thermal fuses so the dryer will be as safe as a new clothes dryer. So now it is a real SH dryer, PS, I hope the Sears deliver man that delivered it was cute. 


Post# 512441 , Reply# 29   4/19/2011 at 19:44 (4,753 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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You weren't supposed to say anything!

 

Oooopppps :-)


Post# 512448 , Reply# 30   4/19/2011 at 20:03 (4,753 days old) by retropia ()        

Sweet set . . . so many settings to choose from.


Post# 512449 , Reply# 31   4/19/2011 at 20:06 (4,753 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Soft heat

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Thank you John for the explanation. 


Post# 512510 , Reply# 32   4/19/2011 at 22:43 (4,753 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Beautiful, Jason!  One of my favorite Kenmore panel styles. 

 

(he's done the super-size-me upgrade on a Kenmore before :-)


Post# 512516 , Reply# 33   4/19/2011 at 22:54 (4,753 days old) by A440 ()        
Soft Heat...

John,
I also thank you for your explanation of the Soft Heat drying.
Why oh why are they not doing this today? Is it a matter of cost?
I have had the chance to play with several of the Gas versions. They are awesome and so FAST!!! I have never encountered the electric version.
Robert's GE Hydrowave (or whatever they called it) had a modulating burner. I wonder how close this was to the original "Soft Heat".
Beautiful Set Jason!
Brent


Post# 512523 , Reply# 34   4/19/2011 at 23:11 (4,753 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Spankalator!!!

Post# 512541 , Reply# 35   4/20/2011 at 02:40 (4,753 days old) by AutowasherFreak ()        

Cool!  I love the lighted dials.  I hope a video is coming soon :-)

 


Post# 512552 , Reply# 36   4/20/2011 at 04:01 (4,753 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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BIGERIZED. LOL! Cool word. Love that.

Post# 512571 , Reply# 37   4/20/2011 at 07:56 (4,753 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Kenmore Pair

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Jason they look really nice, did you finally get these hooked up at your place? They are a sweet pair and I know you did a lot of work to them, congrats, they're beautiful. Did you ever find your way out of the dryer when I left the last time? You looked pretty comfortable.

 

{#emotions_dlg.Washer-4}

 

-Tim


Post# 512668 , Reply# 38   4/20/2011 at 18:54 (4,752 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Bigerized

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Don't forget the 65 Lady K that not only got bigerized but also got fasterized. One washcloth out of place in that machine and it would walk right out the door. Ok, it would run out the door.

Post# 512669 , Reply# 39   4/20/2011 at 18:56 (4,752 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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A video or 3 or 4 will be along soon.




Tim- Thanks! Yeah, I finally got out of the dryer but I had to go back to the other side to retrieve a few missing socks.


Post# 512674 , Reply# 40   4/20/2011 at 19:06 (4,752 days old) by appnut (TX)        
Modern Soft heat Brent

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Brent, I have noticed on the newest Whirlpool, Maytag dryers (the ones that come with the new direct drive WP frontloaders made here in the U.S.) appear to have temperature settings/cycles which shift from a starting heat level (high or medium) and change to the next lower setting as the load dryes.  From what I remember, the only exception to this is the sanitize or towels cycle, which keeps the machine at high temp heat through the whole drying cycle.  when I saw that it kinda did remind me of the SoftHeat, but more so from my 1986 LK dryer which shifted temp to low the last 5 or so minutes of the heated portion of a cycle. 


Post# 512691 , Reply# 41   4/20/2011 at 20:18 (4,752 days old) by A440 ()        

Interesting Bob.

Wonder if it is a "Modulating" type of heat as John Described, or if it is just the dryer changing the heat of the drum with the heat source totally shutting on / off as usual.

Seems like my HE3T gas dryer does this.  Starts off high then drum temp kicks down as the clothes dry. 

Brent


Post# 512706 , Reply# 42   4/20/2011 at 21:05 (4,752 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Newer soft heat

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The newer Soft Heat turns on the thermostat heater so that the final exhaust temps are slowly lowered. If it's a computer controlled dryer then it's controlled by the thermistor.

Some of the later dryers ( Resource Saver, Cabrio, Oasis, etc) also have a dual element heater. The R.S. dryer would run both heaters until target temps were reached and then continue drying on the lower wattage element.

The Cabrio/Oasis being computer controlled can use any combination for the different cycle settings but they too ultimately cycle the heat on and off.



Post# 512709 , Reply# 43   4/20/2011 at 21:57 (4,752 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)        

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Hey Jason I remember seeing those beauties in Beltsville they are stunning in your home !

What a great pair !

I first saw that style in the early seventies at Sears when my mom would let me venture.

The model you have had the lights on they where fantastic, and the mid to bol models had the control dial in the middle.

I called it the slim series they all had slim panels until  you see the back.

 

I'm waiting with anticipation for inside and your modifications wishing you the best on your project Jason !

Any hint how fast the spin is going to be ?

 

Darren k 


Post# 512716 , Reply# 44   4/20/2011 at 22:49 (4,752 days old) by A440 ()        

Jason,

Thanks for your description of the "New Soft Heat".  I had a feeling

that this is what was going on.

I noticed on "Timed Dry" the heat stays the same through out.

Brent


Post# 512809 , Reply# 45   4/21/2011 at 08:23 (4,752 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)        
Interdimensional Portal

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You're a brave man to step into a dryer for a stray sock. I stuck my head in a Maytag once and ended up in 1973. You never know what will happen. I even found Bruce Campbell in there once.

 

-Tim


Post# 512812 , Reply# 46   4/21/2011 at 09:23 (4,752 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Beautiful set.....suspense is killing me.......can't wait



did I miss a thread or video of the 65 Lady K that got fasterized?


Post# 512854 , Reply# 47   4/21/2011 at 15:07 (4,751 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
...and here I thought I' seen everything...

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I've never seen a set like that before, but then my memory cells are disappearing faster than HAL's in "2001." It's really a very attractive pair. Lily Tomlin did a skit years ago about being an impulse buyer...she said "I would buy anything on the shelf at eye-level...I would even buy fresh bread and day-old bread the same day." I'm like that with anything that's lighted. It's really a terible disease to have. I kinda think a lot of the other members on here got bitten by the same bug.

Post# 512934 , Reply# 48   4/21/2011 at 22:56 (4,751 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Under the lid....

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I know the suspense is getting the better of you so here is what is under the lid. I hope you enjoy!

Post# 512935 , Reply# 49   4/21/2011 at 22:59 (4,751 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
biggerized and fasterized 65 LK

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I built that 65 LK 10+ years ago. I think there was a thread on it, but it would be in the original Yahoo group under this screen name or HQOTS.

Post# 512937 , Reply# 50   4/21/2011 at 23:04 (4,751 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Midnight here right now

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Nice bedtime chuckle--worth the wait--a master surprise--who would have guessed! You better call the patent office.


Post# 512938 , Reply# 51   4/21/2011 at 23:04 (4,751 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Gobsmacked

I had no idea such a thing was possible.  How do you prevent water from splashing out around the top of the tub without a sealed lid?  Does cycle sequencing work just like a Kenmore?  This is insane!  You are wonderfully mad!


Post# 512940 , Reply# 52   4/21/2011 at 23:12 (4,751 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Hmmmmm...

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The reflection on the lid leaves me suspicious! lol


Post# 512941 , Reply# 53   4/21/2011 at 23:14 (4,751 days old) by Revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Greetings from the Philippines!

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Hey Jason, what a beautiful KM set, they look to be in incredible condition!

But what a surprise, the skin of a beautiful early 70's Kenmore set, but the heart of a Kelvinator! WOW, who'da thunk it! Dr, Frankenstein is still alive!

Kevin

P.S. This isn't a 3 week late April fools prank, is it? Haha, just asking.


Post# 512944 , Reply# 54   4/21/2011 at 23:56 (4,751 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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No more neutral draining!! Yay!


Post# 512946 , Reply# 55   4/22/2011 at 00:21 (4,751 days old) by A440 ()        

LOL Jason!

 


Post# 512971 , Reply# 56   4/22/2011 at 03:44 (4,751 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Well, I never remembered the agitator in my friend's avocado set looking like THAT!!!!

Is it really the ORIGINAL???? As I've said, the dials didn't light up, nor did the drum of the dryer...

Blown bulb replacement was not a priority, nor was the use of Perm. Press, Delicate cycles etc. or even making use of the Fabric Master (is it an Electronic Sensor?--I recall that dryer actually HAVING it--Yes! --Maybe?) "Auto Dry", or even washing anything less than a "Hi" load--and I'm sure the Bleach/Fab. Soft. Disp. never got more than a couple uses when the machines were new--if that! Same probably goes for the "Cold Water Option", and in that case, why was the End-Of-Cyc. signal on the highest setting? Their laundry was right in the kitchen, (no basement) same level as the rest of the house!

Lastly, I even asked my friend to purposely unbalance the load so it would stop & buzz angrily at us--but he didn't... I can still hear the "whiiish, whiiish", that the "whistling" of that agitator (not really the one that's in YOURS! --Or WAS IT?) made!


-- Dave


Post# 512995 , Reply# 57   4/22/2011 at 08:22 (4,751 days old) by danmantn (Tennessee)        

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Video, please!

Post# 513025 , Reply# 58   4/22/2011 at 10:26 (4,751 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        
Reflection?

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What reflection?

Post# 513032 , Reply# 59   4/22/2011 at 10:48 (4,751 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
I, too, looked and looked

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thinking we had a super sleuth on board, but all I see reflected are the planes and angles of the KM. Maybe I need betterCool

 

Laughing


Post# 513038 , Reply# 60   4/22/2011 at 11:00 (4,751 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
I see what he means

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I stared and stared----notice the angled lines in the lid reflection, you can follow the lid opening reflectiion at about 30 degrees off, then about 2 inches away you get the flat rear lip opening, and then about 2 more inches down the reflection seems to show another parallel line refection like a genuine WhilpoolKenmore flat rear-edged tub cover would reflect, as opposed to this hybrid circular tub. Cameras and eyes and posted pics and relections in a flashbulb are all less than excellent, but I stared quite a bit and can somewhat see what he's talking about in the reflection.

OR, purely by luck, are the spaces between typed words on a few lower lines in the lid leading to what looks like a 3rd line of reflection?

Let's all get our copies of Sherlock Holmes books and have fun!

Any way you look at it, it's a beautiful and rare machine.


Post# 513055 , Reply# 61   4/22/2011 at 12:16 (4,751 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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What I see in the reflection is a Kenmore Dual Action agitator!


Post# 513063 , Reply# 62   4/22/2011 at 12:40 (4,751 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
Help me please.......

I don't get it. You built this set 10 years ago, and then bought it back? This isn't the original tub and agitator is it? Sorry, but I am a little bit slow today.
Mike


Post# 513086 , Reply# 63   4/22/2011 at 15:48 (4,750 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
I agree...

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I agree that something isn't quite right. As I have mentioned I grew up with that exact model machine in the house. One that machine, the lid had a mercury switch attached to the lid hinge not the switch on the frame that a pin on the lid engaged. Maybe our machine was a fluke and the top shown here was more typical of a 1970 model. It raises questions though.... :)

Post# 513089 , Reply# 64   4/22/2011 at 16:05 (4,750 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

It's obvious the "works" shown in the picture (reply #48) are not original to this machine. Whether the pic has been doctored or the machine modified, a solid tub and this tub ring and agitator do not belong in the Kenmore shown, as they are not Whirlpool parts.

Post# 513159 , Reply# 65   4/23/2011 at 01:18 (4,750 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

If you have Faststone image capture or something like it, you can enlarge and rotate the image. I rotated it right and enlarged it and I agree with Jamie, it looks like there is something different in the reflection. Might just be the way the light hits it...

Post# 513212 , Reply# 66   4/23/2011 at 10:31 (4,750 days old) by supremewhirlpol ()        
Or maybe a mirage

I think the reflection on the lid tells a different story too. Perhaps you should have used Photoshop for that. Really Jason, What did you do to this machine? Did you incorporate a hard drive shredder? Do orange sparks come out the bottom of the machine?

Post# 513236 , Reply# 67   4/23/2011 at 12:11 (4,750 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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It's funny with all the added features and doo-dads on this model that the original purchaser didn't pay the extra $14 for the window lid.

Nice rebuild, Jason, can't wait to see the videos. Hurry, please.


Post# 513237 , Reply# 68   4/23/2011 at 12:18 (4,750 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Me too, I had heard of a rumor a month or two ago that a very challenging rebuild/conversion was going on in DC.  I never expected this, I'm curious what kind of retrofitting was needed to seal the outer tub to the top of the cabinet?  I would think you might have needed to have added a whole new subtop to the top of that outer tub?


Post# 513258 , Reply# 69   4/23/2011 at 15:33 (4,749 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        

All above my head, but ENJOY!

Post# 513298 , Reply# 70   4/23/2011 at 19:04 (4,749 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA)        
Neutral Drain

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You can be sure if John had anything to do with this project, it still has a neutral drain. I bet they used some of those Blackstone parts.

Post# 513303 , Reply# 71   4/23/2011 at 19:21 (4,749 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I love a machine that fluffs the clothes at the end of the cycle!

Post# 513321 , Reply# 72   4/23/2011 at 22:07 (4,749 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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So skeptical.....

Remember, don't let anyone tell that you can't do something.


Post# 513324 , Reply# 73   4/23/2011 at 22:18 (4,749 days old) by washernoob ()        

Holy Buckets!

Looks like fun!

Lots of water and bubbles! I bet thats one heck of a clothes cleaner for sure.


Post# 513326 , Reply# 74   4/23/2011 at 22:24 (4,749 days old) by A440 ()        

You guys are a hoot!

I am surprised the Dryer is not some Solar Type Drying System.  Trade Marked by John of course!!!  Talk about Soft Heat!

Brent


Post# 513327 , Reply# 75   4/23/2011 at 22:27 (4,749 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        
Wow

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Holy Buckets is right!  I can't wait to see a video of this!


Post# 513329 , Reply# 76   4/23/2011 at 22:30 (4,749 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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Oh don't be silly Brent. If John had made the dryer it would have been a Heat Pump dryer that pumped the condensate into a holding tank for future use either to wash clothes or water the lawn.

Post# 513332 , Reply# 77   4/23/2011 at 22:38 (4,749 days old) by A440 ()        

TeeHee Jason!

 

But what a great idea!



Post# 513345 , Reply# 78   4/24/2011 at 01:15 (4,749 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Just as I imagined! Great shot!

Post# 513349 , Reply# 79   4/24/2011 at 01:39 (4,749 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I just love the Jet-Circle Fill on that too! That Flex-A-Wash mechanism with the helical drive would really create great washing. I bet the Rapidry spin is really something to see. Buh Bye bubbles!

Post# 513385 , Reply# 80   4/24/2011 at 09:54 (4,749 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Easter Egg White Whip

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So Jason, what name have you given your creation: Kenilator, Kelmore, Kelvinmore........what?


Post# 513386 , Reply# 81   4/24/2011 at 10:03 (4,749 days old) by JaredH ()        

Doe this thing still have that signature Woo-Woo-woo-woo sound?

Post# 513399 , Reply# 82   4/24/2011 at 11:14 (4,749 days old) by cornutt (Huntsville, AL USA)        

The more I look at that dial, especially with the backlight on, the more it reminds me of an old radio. The sound might be less woo-woo-woo and more doo-wop!

Post# 513405 , Reply# 83   4/24/2011 at 11:51 (4,749 days old) by washernoob ()        

I thought that same exact thing David! It looks just like an old radio. How cool!

Post# 513422 , Reply# 84   4/24/2011 at 15:02 (4,748 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1971 KELVY-KEN

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 The neutral drain was accomplished by having Smitty make a stainless steel flange to mount where the sediment tube attached the the aluminum tub support of the Kelvinator. To the flange I attached a radio controlled drain valve from a new WP built electronically controlled ice machine. The valve has a lithium-ion battery that will eventually have to be recharged, but I think Jason will tire of the whole thing and convert it back to a real KM BD washer again before the battery ever runs down.


Post# 513586 , Reply# 85   4/25/2011 at 11:13 (4,748 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
1971 KELVY-KEN

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I forgot to add when the drain valve opens all you hear is water draining into the outer tub, this takes less than one minute. Then after the customary two minute drain the main motor starts the spin and water pump out from the large outer tub. I do not think they could ever have sold a washer that worked this way as it really sounds like it is just letting loose and the sound of all that water poring into the outer tub just doesn't sound right.

 

[ PS Jamie you are good ]


Post# 513627 , Reply# 86   4/25/2011 at 14:35 (4,748 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Bubble! Bubble!

Oh what mess. Did that once in my Bosche. It kept adding water and spining. It took forever. It went on and on. I kept looking at the drain pipe behind the washer expecting to see an overflow, but not. My good fortune! That's when I switched to an he formula.

Post# 513686 , Reply# 87   4/25/2011 at 17:28 (4,747 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        

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Does it "griiiind click clunk" into the spin cycle?

Post# 513692 , Reply# 88   4/25/2011 at 18:20 (4,747 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Strong Enough

Name that car in your profile photo. It's a Chrysler something with those fabulous hide away headlights that were so vogue in the late 60's and into the 70's!!!!!

Post# 513695 , Reply# 89   4/25/2011 at 18:39 (4,747 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        
Retromania

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It's a 1972 Chrysler Imperial. One of my most favorite Chryslers made.

Post# 513697 , Reply# 90   4/25/2011 at 18:48 (4,747 days old) by retromania (Anderson, South Carolina)        
Strong Enough

Imperial was top of the line for Chrysler, right?

Post# 513701 , Reply# 91   4/25/2011 at 18:58 (4,747 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)        

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Yes. She was the flagship.

Post# 513783 , Reply# 92   4/25/2011 at 22:53 (4,747 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
and the sound of all that water poring into the outer tub ju

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Like someone peeing in the washer?

Post# 513846 , Reply# 93   4/26/2011 at 07:05 (4,747 days old) by surgilator_68 (Maryland)        

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More like a horse peeing.

As for the suds, I need to use HE detergent.


Post# 515891 , Reply# 94   5/5/2011 at 18:28 (4,737 days old) by joelippard (Hickory)        


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Now when are we going to see some videos of this transplant?


Post# 1059622 , Reply# 95   2/4/2020 at 20:28 (1,540 days old) by stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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.
Never saw this model washer or anything like it, before.
Bump this back on the board.


Post# 1059625 , Reply# 96   2/4/2020 at 20:53 (1,540 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Kenmore had some console designs that were very different from their Whirlpool siblings.


Post# 1059626 , Reply# 97   2/4/2020 at 21:37 (1,540 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        
Wow

Wow, a Kenmore with "shampoo action!" lol



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