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| Post# 513587 4/25/2011 at 11:30 (4,741 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
Hello Everybody. This is my very first post on automaticwasher.org. I have been visiting this excellent site for quite a while now & i have finally got around to joining the group. I have worked in electrical retail for almost 15 years now. I work in a small but very busy independent shop that used to be a norweb shop. We sell all the major whitegoods. I do the ordering,selling & the deliveries & the fun part picking up the customers old appliances. You would not believe some of the classic washers we pick up. Just a few weeks back we delivered a washer to a customer & I could not believe my eyes when he wanted the old one taking away a Hoover OPH714D. I asked him what was wrong with it he said it wasnt pumping out. Well here it is now in my kitchen working perfectly & the problem a blocked pump sorted it out in minutes.
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Post# 513588 , Reply# 1 4/25/2011 at 11:35 (4,741 days old) by ozzie908  (Lincoln UK) |
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| Post# 513596 , Reply# 2 4/25/2011 at 12:48 (4,741 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Now for plus & negative points. (The plus points) It does a very good wash on the 29 minute quick wash i like the long drum rotations. I like the real time lcd display. The wash time button you tell the machine how long you want it to wash for. Very deep rinse water levels. Low level fab con rinse makes the most of the conditioner. Fast 1000rpm interim spins. (Negatives) No 50deg temperature option. Dont like & dont want the prewash before the 90deg programme. If you want to do a prewash it should be as a option button. Quick wash 800 max spin i would like the option to increase this. Fast iron button a waste of time its quite simply rinse hold. A bit to fussy on spin balancing. Final 1400 spin takes far to long. No slow drum rotation at the end of the final spin. All in all i quite like the machine.
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Post# 513597 , Reply# 3 4/25/2011 at 12:56 (4,741 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK) |
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| Post# 513614 , Reply# 4 4/25/2011 at 13:39 (4,741 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
Low spec Hoover
My Hoover Nextra is quite different as to some of the options you mentioned: it'd annoy me a lot if it didn't let me choose all the temperatures from 0 to 90 degrees!
As for the spin cycle, I'm annoyed for the opposite reason... I cannot get a long spin only mode in my version, as it's limited to a short spin (less than 3 minutes at a max speed of 800rpm), however I usually make sure that I select a programme with a long spin sequence (fortunately I can have as many cycles as I want through the selector and the option combinations). I hated to see what they did to the 'prewash' function, which on mine is selectable through a button, but on the other hand newer models had a stain blaster option which mine hasn't. I know some 2nd generation Hoover Nextras (2006) were similar to your Optima... but they were the entry level washers from Hoover. I can't stop loving my Nextra though, that's how I managed to forgive her for not letting me have a long spin only cycle :-P | ||
| Post# 513632 , Reply# 6 4/25/2011 at 14:49 (4,741 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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The machine i had before this was a hoover H160E SIX Model. That machine was a top spec machine just before i think they brought out the nextra range. I used to love the fast wash button it would knock 50 minutes off the wash time the only problem was that when it got to the desired wash temp it would go straight to empty then on to the first rinse instead of washing for a few more minutes at the correct temp. I would only use the fast wash button if i was in a hurry because i thought it was a waste to heat the water then to pump it out. It was also a hot & cold fill machine which was good because you could press the no heat button & it would fill with hot only or hot & cold water depending on the programme selected without using the machines own heater. That SIX , NEXTRA & CANDY SMART range of machines were the best & last to come out of the Merthyr tydfil factory before it was shut down.
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| Post# 513638 , Reply# 8 4/25/2011 at 15:05 (4,741 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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They is one more thing i hope you will all help me out on. the rating plates do not say where they are made at. Apart from the larger capacity machines which say they are made in Italy. I think candy own a washer factory in China so i guess they are made there. I do know that Hoover-Candy dryers are now made in Poland.
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| Post# 513647 , Reply# 10 4/25/2011 at 15:29 (4,741 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Dex, Our top selling washers are still Hotpoint WML540 & WMF540 i dont rate them much. Mind you i am very impressed with the Indesit IPW prime range of washers far better build quality very much like the Aqualtis range & they still have 1 very last uk part in them the soap dispenser still the same as the Hotpoint WMA models that were made in the UK. We also sell quite alot of the basic 1000 spin BEKO machines they have been as yet very reliable. The most unreliable machine at the moment is Amica considering they have got a 2 year guarantee you would be lucky if they are lasting for 2 months without a service call. I Sold a candy GO148 GRANDO on saturday straight forward 8kg basic machine they have been quite reliable.
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| Post# 513649 , Reply# 11 4/25/2011 at 15:33 (4,741 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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@optima
We obviously have different experiences which shape different opinions. I absolutely love the fast wash feature and I like the fact that the machine does not keep your top selected temperature for long... this is handy for non fast colour garments which are more susceptible to run colour at a higher temp or for mix clothes with even higher temps.
Just as an example, I experienced colour run with a temp of 50 in other washers, but not in Nextra with the fast wash option. The clothes will still benefit of wash action and temperature... e.g. when the machine has reached 45 degrees, it's still going to wash for further 5 minutes while it heats up to 50 (this will still give a main wash time of 30 minutes altogether, which seems adequate for dark garments). There are still other fix length short cycles like the A59' which will carry on washing after having reached the temperature chosen so probably they're more suitable for sturdier laundry. All Nextras ('04 and '06 models except for the 3D ones which had a time manager instead) had them for any temp between cold and 60 degrees, and the main wash would always last approx 40' whatever the temp... the heater in these cycles would be activated almost immediately rather than after 10-12' like the standard cycles. I'm not sure about your Optima... I can't quite see the programmes in the pic. I hope I didn't give you a headache :-P See ya | ||
| Post# 513674 , Reply# 13 4/25/2011 at 16:26 (4,741 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Dex you are correct candy dryers are made in Turkey. The thing i dont understand is why the HOOVER-CANDY dryers & refrigeration & some big capacity washers tell you where they are manufactured but the smaller drum models dont also i have noticed most of them have haier motors in them which makes me think China but for some reason Candy dont want us to know that & my optima does not say where it was made. Haxisfan my optima does wash in cold water for the first 10 to 15 minutes.
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| Post# 513926 , Reply# 17 4/26/2011 at 12:43 (4,740 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Liam, The new basic optimas without LCD displays are very disappointing especially the very long wash times on the cotton programmes. The only quick cotton wash is the (a)class in 59 minutes programme that is ok but it has a fixed temp @ 60deg to hot for most things. The only way of reducing the temp is by pressing the cold wash option button ok in the summer but in the winter i dont think so. Candy should have put a variable temp button & also a time saver button on this machine. The thing i like about my OPH714D is that i can select by the wash time button how long i want it to wash for depending on how dirty the washing is.
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| Post# 513983 , Reply# 18 4/26/2011 at 17:03 (4,740 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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I'm disappointed too :-(
The A59' cycle is just a wonderful wash cycle suitable for almost anything and can replace any other standard cycle provided that one can alter certain parametres such as water temperature and spin speed. It's diabolical from Hoover to spoil such a great programme with those temperature limitations (60 degrees or cold)... fortunately it only happens on some entry level models... also from Candy and Zerowatt.
For those who don't know this wash programme similarly to any standard cycle starts with slow tumbles for 2-3 minutes (depending on the size of the load) followed by approx 37 minutes of fast tumbles with short pauses, then it spins at 400rpm after the main wash and it performs 2 high o mid-high level water rinses (the water levels usually change: so far I've noticed that it always gets a higher water level when the load contains dark items) with interim spin at 400rpm... the final spin sequence is identical to those of cotton cycle so it's carried out at the max speed with the max length. Should anyone be interested, I included 2 links of the A59 cycle below, one with dark clothes and the other with lights. Bye :-) CLICK HERE TO GO TO Haxisfan's LINK | ||
| Post# 513984 , Reply# 19 4/26/2011 at 17:04 (4,740 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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| Post# 513995 , Reply# 20 4/26/2011 at 17:39 (4,740 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 514003 , Reply# 21 4/26/2011 at 18:02 (4,740 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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@optima
yeah... that 50 degrees cycle would be nice together with a temp selector... but with such a temperature restriction it seems a bit pointless. I had a Candy Aquaviva for a week and it had that cycle you mentioned but also a temperature selection dial... so that was good.
Another thing I often frown upon is the fact that the prewash thingummy (you described above) is contaminating more and more models within the entire Candy group... I don't get it... why can't they stick to a prewash button? I wonder if they're ever going to realize that they're just embittering their clientele by putting silly restrictions as such. Still... I'm sure my next washer will be yet again another Hoover/Candy... just for the hell of it ;-) | ||
| Post# 514320 , Reply# 23 4/28/2011 at 03:05 (4,738 days old) by solsburian (SE Northumberland) | ||
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On the Hoover I had, you could change the temp of the A59 wash. The only caveat was that the recommended load was 3kg. | ||
| Post# 514321 , Reply# 24 4/28/2011 at 03:23 (4,738 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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@FL1012
Hi Liam,
The A59' can be done at 40 degrees or any other temperature up to 60 on this model (the 1 on the vids) and albeit the name suggests that it should last 59 minutes, it always ends up lasting 1 or 2 minutes past the hour even with no balance issues for some reason which I still find acceptable... of course it would last even longer if the load couldn't be balanced straight off (but this is rare especially on the interim spins because of the reduced spin speed). The standard cycles at 40 with the time saver would last approx 66 minutes (wash+rinse+spin=25+30+11) for cotton and approx 50'(23+24+3) for a smaller load of synthetics. The extra rinse is not available on the A59' however, as you could see in the vid, this isn't needed as the water level is self-adjusted and would be higher if required. The extra rinse function works differently according to the standard cycle chosen, e.g. cotton (add 2 rinses at whatever required level, usually low, to existing 2 or 3) and synth's (increases the water level of each of the 3 fixed number of rinses). I always like to see a break down in phases within a wash programme, but I've noticed that when searching the web for wash times, you're likely to find the total time of a cycle, however, as most folks here know, two wash programmes might last the same but could be carried out in a totally different way... like in these examples above. Laterz. | ||
| Post# 514325 , Reply# 26 4/28/2011 at 05:34 (4,738 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.) | ||
oph714d
Hi,all.Our regular use machine is a Hoover oph714d,and ive been very sastified with it.I,m not a washing machine snob and at the time this machine offered the features i wanted at a good price.I,m not that bothered about it,s lifespan as i like to have a change every 2 or 3 years.I know a Miele is the best you can get but i think i would get bored having the same washer for 10 years.The option i particulaly like is the sensitive care as it not only increases the rinses but also loads more water after approx 10 minutes into the wash so you get a good deep wash.The drum is also larger than some other 7kg machines.I think it,s has very flexible programes.It has excellant rinsing as adds a very deep first rinse if it gets suds locked on the first spin after wash.All in all does what it says on the tin. The only negatives are 60degree default water temprature on coloured and synthetic cycles as its easy to forget to alter the temprature before starting and no matching dryer or stacking kit,so excuse the dryer stood on a towel.So Optima i think you were lucky to snag this washer and hope you enjoy using it.Regards Nige.
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| Post# 514380 , Reply# 28 4/28/2011 at 12:05 (4,738 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Dex, That Grand O plus is a stunning machine. I would just like to know one thing & its about the silent inverter drive can to tell me if its a brush motor or a brushless induction motor. For the first time last night & it has not done this before i have just found out my oph714D Optima is even more cleverer than i though & its to do with the out of balance sensor. After it has pumped the wash water out & it goes up to distribution speed. It then senses the load balance its either a case of another re-balance or spin but last night it spinned quite out of balance for the 2 400rpm bursts thats when i started to panic thinking my washer is going to shake itself to death then it realised before going onto the faster 1000rpm bit but up till now it would sense before the first 400rpm spin burst. I found that rather clever.
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| Post# 514383 , Reply# 29 4/28/2011 at 12:09 (4,738 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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| Post# 514439 , Reply# 31 4/28/2011 at 16:35 (4,738 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.) | ||
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Dryer
Hi, Dex and all, you asked about my experience of the Hoover sensor dryer.All i can say is that it works well and has been trouble free.It doesn,t have complicated moisture sensors ,it just has an exhaust temprature sensor and the electronics calculates the rest .Only ever have it set on cupboard dry and every thing comes out just right.It,s installed in our garage so last winter for about a month the temprature hardly got above 0c but the dryer seemed to compensate for that.I Had a few service calls last winter to condenser dryers in outhouses and garages that would,nt work because they were frozen solid so vented are best for outside.Also later Candy/Hoover sensor dryers wont work below a set temperature as they incorperate frost protection which unfortunatley is,nt explained in the user manual.Optima,do you sell Hoover/Candy dryers and have you had this complaint especialy up in the frozen north? As for the out of balance sensing on the washer i agree it,s more sensible,if the load is not too uneven it will spin redistribute and spin again but at lower revs unlike some washers that can have up to 50 attempts rebalance to spin then give up.And Dex ,i would have liked the Hoover washer with the inverter motor but over here in the u.k. it,s only in the top of the range expensive models so i had to make do with the screaming brush motor model.Regards Nige.
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| Post# 514445 , Reply# 33 4/28/2011 at 17:24 (4,738 days old) by optima (Cumbria England) | ||
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Reversomatic We have had a lot of problems with electronic sensor dryers in sheds & garages but what i find interesting is out of all the makes it is hoover-candy sensors that we only seem to have the most problems with. I think hoover-candy have now addressed this in there instruction manuals. Personally i have never been a fan of sensor dryers much prefer mechanical timer dryers & its a very common problem with frost free fridge freezers & freezers.
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| Post# 514518 , Reply# 35 4/29/2011 at 04:41 (4,737 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy) | ||
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Main wash profile, spin speed and manufacturer's recomme
Hi Liam, I see what you mean, but sometimes it might just have to do with the way one's organised or used to carry out laundry related tasks... even if the time saver standard cycle would run overall for only a few minutes longer than the A59 it has a totally different configuration... e.g. the 25' wash of the standard cycle consists of mid-gentlish movements for just over 15' and intense movements for less than 10' compared to over 35' intense movements of the A59'... and its 3 lower level rinses are easier on delicate colours compared to the 2 high water level rinses. Still, probably there isn't a great difference in terms of results, however, if... say, I have a load of dark colours I prefer the standard (with time saver at 40) and if the items are of a brighter but sturdier colour than I'd go ahead with the A59' at 40°C. Of course if I didn't have the choice of the 'time saver' for this kind of scenario I'd probably use the A59' at 30 degrees. Yes I'd be lost if i couldn't use any of the two as I wouldn't like the idea to use the nonfast colour cycle without time saver as it has a main wash that lasts approx 1 hour whatever the temperature (up to 40°C). There are other cycles I'd use in the scenario I've just described (such as daily or acrylics) if I didn't have these options but that would mean missing out on full spin sequences and speed... so I'm glad I don't have one of those deprived models :-P
Reading that 1400rpm 5 minute sustained spin speed 'securitybrake' asserted was a surprise for me too, my machine has a top speed of 1400 but it mostly spins at 1200 and just over 1 minute on 1400. I'm certain that its 'A' class spin dry rating would be achieved even by leaving the dial set on 1200 as it would keep that speed for 5 minutes after the initial couple of minutes at 400 and 800 then 3 more minutes at 1000rpm. 'Solsburian', the A59' is recommended with 3kg of laundry if you wish to meet the conditions given in the specs... such as duration (59 minutes), energy and water consumption comparable to an A class wash cycle. It doesn't mean that you can't use it for a full load, but in that case you have to be aware of the possible limitations of a short cycle over a very dirty full load of clothes: all cycles in any washing machine are there for you to choose regardless of the manufacturer's recommendations. | ||
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