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Post# 516690   5/9/2011 at 20:46 (2,407 days old) by qsd-dan ((SF Bay Area))        

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Washer still has the original 8 finned agitator. Both units should have the incandescent timer light in addition to the florescent. Asking price is very modest.

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Post# 516694 , Reply# 1   5/9/2011 at 21:12 (2,407 days old) by swestoyz (Waterloo, Iowa)        

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Man I'd be jumping all over this washer right now if I was there...

Post# 516706 , Reply# 2   5/9/2011 at 22:13 (2,407 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Wow!  And the dryer is gas!  So tempting if they were close by.


Post# 516710 , Reply# 3   5/9/2011 at 22:32 (2,407 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
I'm on it...

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I'll keep you all posted when I know more.


Post# 516886 , Reply# 4   5/10/2011 at 18:26 (2,406 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Took a look today...

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...and closed the deal.  By tomorrow they'll be in my basement.  Pics will follow then.

 

The owner used the washer as recently as a month ago and the dryer in January.  He quit using the dryer because "it wouldn't ever shut off."  First guess would be that the electrolytic capacitors in the sensing circuitry have drifted.  They have obviously been used a lot but were extremely well taken care of.  If you count the guy who's been in the house for 6 months, I will be the 3rd owner.


Post# 516893 , Reply# 5   5/10/2011 at 18:46 (2,406 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Congratulations!

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Excellent score! 

 

Can't wait to see more detailed pictures.


Post# 516895 , Reply# 6   5/10/2011 at 18:53 (2,406 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Nice set!

Post# 516907 , Reply# 7   5/10/2011 at 19:27 (2,406 days old) by AutowasherFreak ()        

NICE set of Tags, I'm sure you will enjoy them.

 


Post# 516920 , Reply# 8   5/10/2011 at 20:17 (2,406 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Concord, CA (But my heart will always be in sweet Nevada!))        
"it wouldn't ever shut off."

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First off, CONGRATULATIONS!

A Halo of Heat that will not shut off can have a problem that ranges from the simple to the nasty...

1) The little paperclip like link from the shut off solenoid to the control switch can be off or broken. (common)
2) Bad shutoff solenoid. (not likely)
3) The element can be grounded and won't cool down and let the cool down t-stat shut the motor off even though the control switch may have 'turned off' (common)
4) Bad cool down stat. (common)
5) Bad/broken control switch. (possible)
6) Bad electronic dry board. (uncommon)
7) Possible short across one of the sets of sensor bars in the drum (possible)

Do a little triage when they come home and let us know! Otherwise, that's a nice set!

RCD


Post# 516929 , Reply# 9   5/10/2011 at 21:03 (2,406 days old) by mistereric (USA)        

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Congrats! Can't wait to see the pictures!

Post# 517136 , Reply# 10   5/11/2011 at 23:34 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Mr. DeMille...

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I'm ready for my close up.


Post# 517137 , Reply# 11   5/11/2011 at 23:36 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Pre-1969 timer dial

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Note there is no water-wasting Permanent Press Cycle Smile


Post# 517138 , Reply# 12   5/11/2011 at 23:38 (2,405 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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That washer is SWEET! Would love to see it lit up!!


Post# 517139 , Reply# 13   5/11/2011 at 23:40 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Right Side

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Regular: fast/fast

Gentle: slow/slow

Wash 'n Wear: fast/slow

 

Small: 12-1/2 gal. fill

Normal: 16 gal. fill

Large: 19 gal. fill


Post# 517140 , Reply# 14   5/11/2011 at 23:41 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Temeratue selections

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Pretty standard


Post# 517141 , Reply# 15   5/11/2011 at 23:42 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Inside the tub

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Tub light is burned out


Post# 517142 , Reply# 16   5/11/2011 at 23:43 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Lint filter

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Looks like someone didn't know this should be cleaned from time to time.  Note original metal top ring.


Post# 517143 , Reply# 17   5/11/2011 at 23:44 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Showing off

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ORIGINAL flourescent tube!


Post# 517144 , Reply# 18   5/11/2011 at 23:45 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
And she holds water!

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And runs relatively quietly too, all things considered!


Post# 517145 , Reply# 19   5/11/2011 at 23:47 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
The dryer

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Didn't try to get this going yet.

Foler contains the original sales brochures, manuals and INVOICE!


Post# 517146 , Reply# 20   5/11/2011 at 23:48 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Dryer money shot

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Inside


Post# 517147 , Reply# 21   5/11/2011 at 23:49 (2,405 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
How cool is this???

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Original sales invoice!

Just in case we need to know the provenance. Laughing


Post# 517149 , Reply# 22   5/12/2011 at 00:29 (2,405 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis)        
Congrats Mark!!!

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What a great score for your first set!  Many more to come! Can't wait to see them on Friday in person.


Post# 517151 , Reply# 23   5/12/2011 at 00:39 (2,405 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Wow, those are in much better shape than they appeared to be in the CL ad! 

 

We may need to start a "Find of the Month" thread here! 


Post# 517164 , Reply# 24   5/12/2011 at 06:10 (2,405 days old) by super32 (Blackstone Massachusetts)        
WOW

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Very nice! Very clean! Im falling over at the price they paid for them. Almost 43 years old from the "paid" date.

Post# 517174 , Reply# 25   5/12/2011 at 07:31 (2,405 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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Incredible machines! How I would love to help restore those classics to their original glory. It's ironic; Maytag washers have outlived the Maytag company.

 

Be careful cleaning that lint filter; it's not as hardy as the later versions. Soak the BOTTOM MESH PART ONLY in some Lime-Away overnight being very careful not to let any of the acid get on that beautiful chrome cap. Hot water and a brush should then do the rest easily.

 

If you have time, would you be able to post a couple of close-up pics of the gas flame emblem on the control panel and the model plate on the gas dryer?


Post# 517187 , Reply# 26   5/12/2011 at 08:37 (2,405 days old) by swestoyz (Waterloo, Iowa)        

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They don't get much better than this. Congrats on a great find!

The price paid in May of '67 is considerably less than what the washer and dryer retailed for. Must have been friends of the dealer :)

Ben


Post# 517196 , Reply# 27   5/12/2011 at 10:05 (2,405 days old) by steve1-18 (Grovetown (Augusta), GA)        

I have the exact same set with the electric dryer. Does yours have the tub light?

Post# 517202 , Reply# 28   5/12/2011 at 10:55 (2,405 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Good for you

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Great find, congratulations. BAJA's advice on the filter is correct, keep the silver part dry but soak the bottom in Lime-Away or CLR, and I used a fingernail brush and pushed through the holes, got out TONS of ugly fine crap. Now, a two-second rinse under the faucet after each wash keeps it spotless. And it does a fine job, lots of lint.

I happen to have a Halo-Of-Heat service manual, up to DG700 and 701, only slightly before your machine. If it can be of help, feel free to ask--

Congrats on your new find, solid and responsible machines. And a matched set!


Post# 517225 , Reply# 29   5/12/2011 at 13:07 (2,405 days old) by mistereric (USA)        

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Nice! I'm turquoise with envy!

Post# 517328 , Reply# 30   5/12/2011 at 23:18 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
More pics

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Tub light replaced


Post# 517329 , Reply# 31   5/12/2011 at 23:19 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Blue Flame living

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1967 style


Post# 517333 , Reply# 32   5/12/2011 at 23:36 (2,404 days old) by Spankomatic (Ukiah,CA)        

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Tub light looks great! I noticed the water levels were "small" "medium" and "large".  The tub size looks like extra large capacity. I'm wondering if Maytag changed the water level settings in later years for the same size tub....

 

Jim


Post# 517374 , Reply# 33   5/13/2011 at 07:47 (2,404 days old) by GadgetGary (Bristol,CT)        
Tub Light!

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Love it!

 

Congrats!

 


Post# 517391 , Reply# 34   5/13/2011 at 08:44 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Some more dryer pics

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replaced the lamp and starter


Post# 517394 , Reply# 35   5/13/2011 at 08:44 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
And the drum light...

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.


Post# 517395 , Reply# 36   5/13/2011 at 08:45 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Be careful

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kitty,


Post# 517396 , Reply# 37   5/13/2011 at 08:47 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
You don't want to get burned

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And then I hooked up the gas line.


Post# 517448 , Reply# 38   5/13/2011 at 12:29 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Dryer model plate

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Post# 517449 , Reply# 39   5/13/2011 at 12:30 (2,404 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Washer model plate

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Post# 517470 , Reply# 40   5/13/2011 at 13:56 (2,404 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Those dryer shots make me really nostalgic for the wonderful DG806 we used to have.  What a beautiful set of machines.  They are my ideal pair.


Post# 517742 , Reply# 41   5/14/2011 at 12:55 (2,403 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Condition update

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Yesterday I spent the day working on the machines in a very general way.

- I got the washer lint filter clean by soaking the plastic part in vinegar overnight (the metal is fine) and then scrubbing it in hot dishwater using an old toothbrush. It cleaned up very nicely.

- The washer will be needing some work on the motor glides and/or springs and possibly a new set of belts. When I put full of a load of whites in it took quite a bit of coaxing to get it to agitate even moderately. The spin was pretty anemic. I ended up transferring the VERY wet laundry to another machine to spin it out again before putting it in the dryer.

- Somewhere along the line the pump was replaced and whoever did that did not reconnect the bleach dispenser "dilution" hose to the pump. I can see a plastic "stub" on the top of the pump where I think this should go. Is it as simple as drilling a small hole in the indentation in that stub and reconnecing the hose to the bleach dispenser?

- Other than those issues and a thorough cosmetic "spa" treatment I think the machine is in VERY good shape. Tub bearing seems quiet and stable, no leaks, tub brake seems tight, no indexing during agitation (although I supppose that could change when the agitation is up to snuff.) I am particularly impressed with the SUBSTANTIAL feel of the timer knob when you turn it. It just has this feel of quality that I have rarely experienced.

Now the dryer:

- There is problem somewhere in the electronics with the shut off. The only setting that seems to work properly is DAMP DRY. When the dryer is empty, DAMP dry shuts off within about 5 seconds. When I put the full load of whites in on DAMP DRY, it ran normally and shut off after about 45 minutes and the load was appropriately damp. When I tried "REGULAR" with the machine empty it ran for 20 minutes before I finally intervened. With the damp whites in, I pushed REGULAR and let it run for about 20 minutes before checking. They were definitely DRY. From the literature I have looked at, this sounds like a fairly common problem with this electronic control. Ben, Gregg, Dan - thoughts?


Post# 517832 , Reply# 42   5/14/2011 at 17:40 (2,402 days old) by swestoyz (Waterloo, Iowa)        

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Like timers, the Maytag Electronic Control module does get blamed for many issues since it controls everything the dryer does, and they do go bad.

However, there are a few other things that could go wrong as well - grounding issues, dirty baffles, broken wires, etc. Follow the steps outlined on the five pages below for the wire wrapped baffles (wire wrapped baffles are from 1961- early 1969). I've also included the checks for the bar baffles in case someone uses this in the future for HOH dryers made up to 1975.

(BTW - both the washer and dryer were made in March of 1967).


Post# 517833 , Reply# 43   5/14/2011 at 17:40 (2,402 days old) by swestoyz (Waterloo, Iowa)        

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Post# 517838 , Reply# 47   5/14/2011 at 17:45 (2,402 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
ELECTRONIC MT HOH DRYERS

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On the original wire wound drum baffle machines like you have they would often do this as they age. Dan suggested replacing the large capacitor on the electronic control, this may work? But I have often clipped the wires going to one or even two of the drum baffles and the machine will then work fine. There many other things that you may want to check such as grounding of the dryer, also clean the baffles with rubbing alcohol.

 

Mark it is usually best when you have  problems with older machines to ask folks that work on machines for a living and people old enough to remember such machines LOL. 


Post# 518036 , Reply# 48   5/15/2011 at 16:02 (2,401 days old) by qsd-dan ((SF Bay Area))        

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The washer will be needing some work on the motor glides and/or springs and possibly a new set of belts. When I put full of a load of whites in it took quite a bit of coaxing to get it to agitate even moderately. The spin was pretty anemic. I ended up transferring the VERY wet laundry to another machine to spin it out again before putting it in the dryer.

Yeah, replacing the belts, glides/springs, and lubricating the pump is SOP for any machine I procure. Replacing brake packages is becoming an additional step these days for me.

Somewhere along the line the pump was replaced and whoever did that did not reconnect the bleach dispenser "dilution" hose to the pump. I can see a plastic "stub" on the top of the pump where I think this should go. Is it as simple as drilling a small hole in the indentation in that stub and reconnecting the hose to the bleach dispenser?

Yes. Actually, the pre-FSP pumps had the diameter drill bit to use right on the package. I forget what the exact drill bit diameter is at this moment, but 5/16 keeps popping into my head.

I am particularly impressed with the SUBSTANTIAL feel of the timer knob when you turn it. It just has this feel of quality that I have rarely experienced.

Sounds like you have a Mallory timer. Mallory timers have a very "notchy" feel to them. There are a few 203182 Kingston timers for this machine on Ebay that you may want to swipe for the future.

There is problem somewhere in the electronics with the shut off. The only setting that seems to work properly is DAMP DRY. When the dryer is empty, DAMP dry shuts off within about 5 seconds. When I put the full load of whites in on DAMP DRY, it ran normally and shut off after about 45 minutes and the load was appropriately damp. When I tried "REGULAR" with the machine empty it ran for 20 minutes before I finally intervened. With the damp whites in, I pushed REGULAR and let it run for about 20 minutes before checking. They were definitely DRY. From the literature I have looked at, this sounds like a fairly common problem with this electronic control. Ben, Gregg, Dan - thoughts?

5 second shut-off for an empty drum on "Damp Dry" is a little too early. Should be 7-17 sec. Maytag had 2 electronic control units for the 606/806/906. I've only worked the common 303049 ones, so I'm guessing the uncommon 302472 are for the early units?? Not sure if they're interchangeable or not but it wouldn't surprise me if they actually are interchangeable.

Start by checking the condition of the slip ring and brush. Make sure the slip ring is clean and the brush has enough "meat" on it. From there, replace the original electrolytic capacitor on top of the elect. unit with a film cap of the same specs. Sometimes the original capacitor is covered by a rubber sheath that you must remove to get the farad and voltage ratings. If all else fails, both style electronic control units are currently available on ebay in new/unused condition.


Post# 518257 , Reply# 49   5/16/2011 at 12:06 (2,401 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Congratulations Dan! Very nice set!

I am just finishing an 806 gas dryer, and had to do quite a bit of restoration on the wiring. The connectors just corroded away to nothing in some areas. I converted this dryer to electronic ignition, because I don't want the wiring problems to come back again. My dryer is working fine now. I wonder if you need to do some cleaning to the connections inside the dryer, selector switch and control module? I had to a few hours worth of wiring/connector repair to make this dryer work right. I think tight corrosion free connections are very important for the electronic control to work as it should.

Best of luck with your classic Maytag set!


Post# 518960 , Reply# 50   5/18/2011 at 22:23 (2,398 days old) by swestoyz (Waterloo, Iowa)        

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Mark - here are the requested scans:

Post# 518961 , Reply# 51   5/18/2011 at 22:24 (2,398 days old) by swestoyz (Waterloo, Iowa)        

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Dryer operation page 1

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Dryer operation page 2

Post# 519025 , Reply# 53   5/19/2011 at 07:03 (2,398 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
HOH ELECTRONIC DRY GAS DRYERS

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When we used to see the electronic dryers that had a lot of corrosion from the byproducts of combustion caused by the constantly burning pilot I would solder the individual terminals on the circuit board to the board. This trick restored several HOH electronic gas dryers to proper operation that MT Service of Washington told owners could not be fixed. 

 

Rick please post pictures of your electric ignition conversion, I started one on a pink 741C dryer last year but it got side tracked by the washer convention. I used the burner assembly from a newer early 1980s MT gas dryer, I will finish the assembly and post pictures of the results when I can get it back into my test shop where we have gas connections.

 

If anyone wants a pink fully restored MT gas dryer model 741C let me know although Bob of Hollywood will have the first crack at it as he helped me get the project started last year..


Post# 519037 , Reply# 54   5/19/2011 at 08:00 (2,398 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        
Thanks guys!

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Ben - Thanks for the great scans of the original service literature. 

John - That's a great suggestion about soldering the connections, thanks!

 

This will be a fun project.


Post# 519042 , Reply# 55   5/19/2011 at 08:18 (2,398 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Hi John, I will take some photos this weekend and post them. I already have the cabinet back on, but can take a few pics from the back (which is not on yet), and through the pilot access door.

Post# 519117 , Reply# 56   5/19/2011 at 16:52 (2,397 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Glad to hear you got that Avocado set for your aunt up and running, Rick!

Post# 519348 , Reply# 57   5/20/2011 at 16:42 (2,396 days old) by rll70sman (Hastings, Minnesota)        
Purchase invoice

Great washer and dryer! Love the nostalgic handwritten invoice! Note how there was no sales tax charged. This set was purchased just prior to passage of the Minnesota sales and use tax law, which took effect August 1, 1967 at a mere 3 percent.

Post# 971288 , Reply# 58   12/3/2017 at 13:50 by Maytag85 (25 miles from Idywild, 25 miles from Temecula. )        

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Now I know what the burner looks like in a Maytag DG806 Halo Of Heat gas dryer!




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