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Post# 85446   9/27/2005 at 07:25 (6,757 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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And for 1956...




Post# 85447 , Reply# 1   9/27/2005 at 07:25 (6,757 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Post# 85448 , Reply# 2   9/27/2005 at 07:26 (6,757 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Post# 85449 , Reply# 3   9/27/2005 at 07:26 (6,757 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Post# 85451 , Reply# 4   9/27/2005 at 07:27 (6,757 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
To wash, perchance to dream...

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SF pg 2


Post# 85483 , Reply# 5   9/27/2005 at 09:25 (6,757 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Love these Bendix morning threads! Thanks for doing these, Greg!

Post# 85486 , Reply# 6   9/27/2005 at 09:26 (6,757 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!)        

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What a shame, keeping that cool control panel hidden.

Post# 85491 , Reply# 7   9/27/2005 at 09:36 (6,757 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Morning Bendix Fix

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This is the most awsome Bendix design.
Peter


Post# 85518 , Reply# 8   9/27/2005 at 11:40 (6,757 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
So much of what's hot today....

in the way of features are on these Bendix machines. A 7 gallon wash? These machines could have been Energy Star way back when.
It seems the U.S. washer manufacturers tried the FL system back in the 50's, I wonder why it didn't take off then as it has now?
The 525 RPM spin does seem slow for a FL machine, but I think you could just change the photos and put in the photo of one of today's FL machines and still have it right. Simply amazing.

A classic case of what was once old becomes new again!


Post# 85530 , Reply# 9   9/27/2005 at 13:40 (6,757 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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The 525 RPM spin does seem slow for a FL machine

Until the mid or late 1990's front loaders were the slowest spinning automatic washers of any washer made in North America. For front loaders Bendix was the fastest at 525rpm, Westinghouse was 475rpm, early Bendix bolt-down machines were 250rpm. Other coin-op front loading brands such as Norge and Speed Queen also spun below 500 rpm.


Post# 85646 , Reply# 10   9/27/2005 at 21:36 (6,757 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Oh I'm in

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HEAVEN!

Its GEORGEOUS! They did it ALL first! Every feature you see here and in the latest F/L's was ALL patented by Bendix by ...........DRUM ROLL PLEASE............................................................................................................................................1937!!


Post# 85647 , Reply# 11   9/27/2005 at 21:39 (6,757 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
295 Pounds for a WASHER!

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Yikes!

BUT it was Atomic Proof! Best machine to have in the 1950's! Ya never knew when the Ruskies were gonna lauch!



Post# 85649 , Reply# 12   9/27/2005 at 21:46 (6,757 days old) by westytoploader ()        

YAY!! Thanks for posting! BEAUTIFUL machines...I'm sure GyroJon is now in the lookout for a pink machine...although I'm on the lookout for ANY model! No bolting down necessary (I could use it anywhere), and 525 RPM removes more water than 311! :)

From my knowledge, until the Frigidaire Gallery models (and their clones by GE, Kenmore, etc...) came out, the "First Generation FL's" (what I like to call the Westinghouse design) spun relatively slow compared to top-loaders. In the Wards catalog, the last of the Potato-Pulley Westinghouses spun at 525. My Dual-Tumble is probably the same even though the mechanics are different...water extraction isn't too bad, really. About the same as my TL machines (with the exception of the WO-65-2)

--Austin


Post# 85678 , Reply# 13   9/27/2005 at 23:19 (6,757 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks Greg for posting these, what a nice way for us to start our day!! Yay for Bendix, they really were way ahead of their time. Terry

Post# 85690 , Reply# 14   9/28/2005 at 06:19 (6,756 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Greg,
Thanks for posting these Bendix Morning Starters!
I just love these machines!
So ahead of it's time, because just like Jon say's, everyone is using this suspension now. Thank goodness Bendix let the patents expire, or we would still have 200 rpm spins in our front loaders.
Brent


Post# 85696 , Reply# 15   9/28/2005 at 06:56 (6,756 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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How many times may a patent be renewed?

Why did I think 17 years and OUT!


Post# 85738 , Reply# 16   9/28/2005 at 08:46 (6,756 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Steve patents cannot be renewed, 17 years and that's it, actually recently its been changed to 20 years from the filing date. On the other end of the spectrum are copyrights which have gone completely out of control.

Post# 85843 , Reply# 17   9/28/2005 at 19:09 (6,756 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Greg thank you for all the literature postings. CONTINUE.

Post# 85910 , Reply# 18   9/29/2005 at 03:06 (6,755 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, it's 20 years now. The patent for the Miele cutlery tray is from 1986 I believe...

Greg, wonderful brochures!!!!


Post# 85913 , Reply# 19   9/29/2005 at 06:30 (6,755 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
huh?

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Louis why would anyone store their cutlery in a washing machine?
Explain.

jet


Post# 85918 , Reply# 20   9/29/2005 at 06:43 (6,755 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I too just LOVE

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these Gansky Early Morning Bendix Curtain Calls!



Post# 85927 , Reply# 21   9/29/2005 at 07:23 (6,755 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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OOOOH Louis....
cutlery trays are coming to town.

I will soil myself laughing if some American company tries to pawn it off as NEW , UNIQUE, ORIGINAL, world's first..



Post# 85952 , Reply# 22   9/29/2005 at 09:57 (6,755 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Dear Jon

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I mentioned the cutlery tray because we were talking about patents. I didn't say anything about washers in that sentence. How many Margharitas did you have last night, dear?

Post# 90239 , Reply# 23   10/23/2005 at 08:49 (6,731 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Toggle is ranting again...

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Allen /Whirlcool:

I am thinking F/L-ers did not take off at first in this county because:

1- Conusmer Reports magazine gave thumbs up to T/L-ers.
2- T/L-ers saved time (quicker cycle).
3- T/L-ers saved time (larger capacities and load sizes).
4- Before synthetic detergents T/L-ers handled the soap scum and curd formation of natural soaps better. (Rather, these were perceived as less supressive of washing action when they simply sat on top of the water. Hence overflow rinses early-on with automatic T/L-ers).
5- T/L-ers have ease of loading, (location and large size of opening).
6- T/L-ers have much more water and detergent. Can hold in suspension much more grease and oily dirt. Not debatable.
7- T/L-ers: Less fear of leakage- no port-hole boot/seal.
8- Psychology. Water is needed to rinse and ya cant wash without water. The T/L-ers were (and to some extent are still) most-likely IMHO seen to work "better" /faster.
9- Before automatic washers SOAKING was a method used to clean fabrics (of course-- no back-breaking labor required). T/L-ers facilitate this, F/L-ers do not. [Again more psychology- didn't KA DW-ers have a soak cycle? What can you possibly "soak" except the bottom of the tub?]

10- F/L-ers are being and have been re-introduced here because of Federal water limit/efficiency regulations, and perhaps environmental consciousness is helping. I don't think anyone has ever been heard to say T/L-ers don't work well.

....and P.S. I have adjuted to my F/L-er and like it a lot. But NOTHING says to me "HOME" like a T/L-er. I still sit and watch my classic GE filter-flo like a kid!

Our bodies are, after all, all gestated ("made") in water. We love to play with it (watch people hand-wash dishes), be in it and be near it. It is said that the vast majority of the poulation lives near water. 60 miles away or less to be exact. (Which is what, 90km or so?).



Post# 90296 , Reply# 24   10/23/2005 at 15:07 (6,731 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        
soak n' poke

the KA dishwasher's so-called soak cycle,premiering in the early 70s,consisted of the usual wash action,then the machine would just stop and sit.Hence,the so-called soaking.After the soak period, washing resumed to flush away,hopefully,the softened soil.

Post# 90362 , Reply# 25   10/24/2005 at 00:49 (6,731 days old) by norgeman ()        
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Gansky1 Loved the material of the Bendix front loader. On the water conservation aspect we in Nebraska now all about this as Nebraska is being sued by Kansas over water rights for Irrigation from the Republican river and I think also the Platte and the Little Blue rivers. And the fact that we have been going through a drought for about the last 5 years but it did ease a bit this summer as we did get a little more rain this year, but not out of the woods so to speak yet, as we still have a long way to go as the winter they are predicting is going to be a mild one this year. Hope we get more rain than snow this winter if this is going to be the case. California went though this a few years ago and started water rationing and they have done this in Nebraska about 2 years in a row. This is one of the reasons that we switch to a front loader to conserve water. Thanks for posting the pictures and info on the Bendix as I have liked front loaders for years. Dan

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Post# 90577 , Reply# 26   10/25/2005 at 03:42 (6,729 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Drought

"Hope we get more rain than snow this winter if this is going to be the case. California went though this a few years ago and started water rationing"

Actually, it's jsut the opposite for CA. Most of our water starts out as snow in the Sierra Nevada mountains, so we're always wishing for a heavy snowpack.


Post# 90604 , Reply# 27   10/25/2005 at 08:08 (6,729 days old) by designgeek ()        

Re. Atomic Proof: The brochure says they mixed radioactive isotopes with dirt, rubbed the radioactive dirt into the test clothes, and washed in the Bendix and each of however-many competing washers. And then tested with a Geiger counter to see which batches came out with the least amount of radioactivity.

You can imagine the talk at the Bendix lab..

"Hey Chuck, the load from Brand Q is still ticking like crazy. Didn't you say your wife has one of those machines?"

"Yeah, Bob, but since I came to work here I told her we should get one of ours..."

"But the clothes you're wearing were washed in *that other machine* and you're wearing them, right? So then, if that's clean enough for you, put *these* on!"

"Uh, no thanks Chuck, we still want to have another kid..."

--

Re. California: It's been a while since we've had water rationing. And some years we have a surplus of water some months and shortages later. So what do you do about that? Have *both* a toploader and a frontloader!

Re. "growing up..." When I was a wee lad, our family had a GE Filter Flo TL, which I fondly remember watching as the lint-balls rolled around the filter during the agitate cycles (I thought it was quite clever that all the "dirt" got trapped in "the round thing" so you could pluck it out at the end!). But I remember once when my mom was visiting a friend with an early FL washer-dryer. I recall watching the suds swooshing around through the port-hole, and at the end, I looked at the open door and saw the rubber boot in there, and the way the glass was supposed to seal to the rubber. For some reason I was immediately skeptical, something along the lines of "you have to squeeze your clothes through this opening" and "what if the water leaks out?" My 4-year-old mind "got" the same "memes" that must have made most grownups in those days prefer TLs: the differences of the FLs were seen as odd. "Now we all know better" and can appreciate each of these designs on its own merits, but I can see how it would have been difficult for some people to switch their frame of reference when FLs were new.

And yet, those early machines were way ahead of their time, as your Bendix brochure proves. And at 295 lbs, with a 525 rpm spin, the Bendix was probably fairly quiet and well-behaved; I can't see it scooting across the floor during spin.

BTW, agreed re. copyrights. Totally out of control. Liberate Mickey Mouse!



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