Thread Number: 35035
Hoover 0517 stopped spinning today :( |
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Post# 524391 , Reply# 2   6/14/2011 at 04:30 (4,694 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Tried turning the DRAIN VALVE (a few time fully each way) to make sure its in the WASHTUB position & Not DRAIN, sometimes if its not seated properly it will drain the washwater from the washtub into the spinner and then not pump out - the spinner will labour & strain under the weight of water & wet clothes...
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Post# 524481 , Reply# 3   6/14/2011 at 15:59 (4,693 days old) by sudsreturn ()   |   | |
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Sounds like the valve in the pump is knackered. I had this happen to me before with my old T5090. Had wash water coming up through the spinner, although it did pump out, slowly. Prob need a new pump, or repair it. |
Post# 524656 , Reply# 4   6/15/2011 at 13:35 (4,692 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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This model has no internal "valve" like the European or the pre-1970 models (US) had, only a pinch valve that is very unlikely to give this issue. The pump has probably seized and the the spinner has water in it. DO NOT RUN THIS MACHINE LIKE THIS! You WILL cook the spinner motor. When you put the machine into "DRAIN" it opens up the drain pinch-hose. If the pump is not turning, then it will simply bleed the water into the spinner. Here is a photo of the pump assembly. You can remove the back panel and let the drain hose all the way down below the cabinet and gravity drain it. Try and turn the pump by hand, I have a feeling that it is either very tight or competely locked. My e-mail is in my profile, I'd be glad to help you with it. I will e-mail you.
-Tim |
Post# 524844 , Reply# 5   6/16/2011 at 11:56 (4,691 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 524856 , Reply# 6   6/16/2011 at 12:49 (4,691 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY)   |   | |
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Yup Mike, that's all it does. I think there were 2 reasons for this actually and one I think being a symptom of the other. The way this drain pump is setup, the spinner side is always open, no matter what. With the old pumps with the switching valve in the top, the plungers could get stuck or the user could simply misuse the machine and cause water to be trapped in the spinner while it is trying to run, possibly damaging the machine. This design eliminates that possibility completely.
The "effect" of the new design is that there is always an air leak in the pump. When you are trying to drain the wash tub, the pump is also sucking in air from an empty spinner, so it slows down the output by quite a bit in the draining process. It takes one of these Hoovers about 3 minutes roughly to drain a wash tub. My 0510 and 0512 (older pump design) can do this in less than half the time. This slow draining also serves a purpose as well I believe though. Since these machines were never marketed as a "family" washer like there, they were mostly relegated to apartment dwellers or people with no machine hookups. As so, many of these machines ended up being used anywhere there was space like say a bathroom or other shallow sink. The reduced drain flow meant that a much smaller capacity sink could be used to drain off the machine without the hose flying out or over-running. That's my theory anyhow, but it makes sense. The question is which was the reason they did it?
The newer pump uses the same base piece as the older pumps though, but if you think about it, they run almost twice as much as the older machines as the drain time is over twice as long. It is very rare that I find one of these Hoovers with a good pump in them. If I find one with a working pump, I will take it apart and use some light machine oil on the pump shaft and lube it up again, it seems to prolong things, but o-rings for the housing are also scarce.
Thanks
-Tim |